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Study Suggests Oregon is Doomed for a Downturn with Helfrich

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    edited January 2015

    Back in 1998 I read some doog bullshit called "The Oregon Myth" which was basically bullshit supposition unsupported by actual analysis. It was basically "Iron Laws, scoff, Oregon will revert to its historical mean and UW will kick ass."

    @fawgnews!!! true???

  • Mortonhusky
    Mortonhusky Member Posts: 54
    dnc said:

    Back in 1998 I read some doog bullshit called "The Oregon Myth" which was basically bullshit supposition unsupported by actual analysis. It was basically "Iron Laws, scoff, Oregon will revert to its historical mean and UW will kick ass."

    @fawgnews!!! true???

    Fucked it all up, tried to block quote from AssDuck the above and put in the free pub for aubbie. Don't know what i was thinking...... i always screw up when i try to do a HB staple. So I will in fact stay away from trying to fit in and go to my lame version of trolling.

  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    What Slingblade has going for him is the system.

    It was designed to be easy and it is incredibly hard to stop.

    Until someone, besides Holt, comes up with a defense that is a scalable blueprint ... Oregon will run the PAC.

    The odds also say they will win a NC in the next 3-5 years.

    It literally is next man up ... because of the system.

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    topdawgnc said:

    What Slingblade has going for him is the system.

    It was designed to be easy and it is incredibly hard to stop.

    Until someone, besides Holt, comes up with a defense that is a scalable blueprint ... Oregon will run the PAC.

    The odds also say they will win a NC in the next 3-5 years.

    It literally is next man up ... because of the system.

    If it was all just a system, everyone would be doing it. Look, no reasonable duck expects you assholes to be falling over yourselves to exclaim how awesome Oregon is. But don't give in to bouts of willful self-delusion and wishful thinking just so you can go back to how it used to be, because that's even less likely than Helfrich being the next Knute Rockne.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,386 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    topdawgnc said:

    What Slingblade has going for him is the system.

    It was designed to be easy and it is incredibly hard to stop.

    Until someone, besides Holt, comes up with a defense that is a scalable blueprint ... Oregon will run the PAC.

    The odds also say they will win a NC in the next 3-5 years.

    It literally is next man up ... because of the system.

    If it was all just a system, everyone would be doing it. Look, no reasonable duck expects you assholes to be falling over yourselves to exclaim how awesome Oregon is. But don't give in to bouts of willful self-delusion and wishful thinking just so you can go back to how it used to be, because that's even less likely than Helfrich being the next Knute Rockne.
    It's a proven system that has continuity. It helps.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    AZDuck said:

    topdawgnc said:

    What Slingblade has going for him is the system.

    It was designed to be easy and it is incredibly hard to stop.

    Until someone, besides Holt, comes up with a defense that is a scalable blueprint ... Oregon will run the PAC.

    The odds also say they will win a NC in the next 3-5 years.

    It literally is next man up ... because of the system.

    If it was all just a system, everyone would be doing it. Look, no reasonable duck expects you assholes to be falling over yourselves to exclaim how awesome Oregon is. But don't give in to bouts of willful self-delusion and wishful thinking just so you can go back to how it used to be, because that's even less likely than Helfrich being the next Knute Rockne.
    The lack of success anyone has had in any other system suggests you're wrong. I thought Mastoli would be pretty good at Ole Miss. He was terrible. None of the other QB's has done shit poast Oregon either, not even Dennis Wouldahadtheheisman Dixon.

    Mariota's the best of the bunch by far. But Oregon's absolutely developed a great plug and play system. Which is why they opted to keep Helfrich to keep the system intact. We'll see if it pays off.

    I don't see how you could reasonably argue with any of this. It's a compliment to UO and bodes well for you guys. Hell, he said you're winning an NC in the next 3-5 years. That's as quooking it up as it's going to get from a Husky.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    AZDuck said:

    topdawgnc said:

    What Slingblade has going for him is the system.

    It was designed to be easy and it is incredibly hard to stop.

    Until someone, besides Holt, comes up with a defense that is a scalable blueprint ... Oregon will run the PAC.

    The odds also say they will win a NC in the next 3-5 years.

    It literally is next man up ... because of the system.

    If it was all just a system, everyone would be doing it. Look, no reasonable duck expects you assholes to be falling over yourselves to exclaim how awesome Oregon is. But don't give in to bouts of willful self-delusion and wishful thinking just so you can go back to how it used to be, because that's even less likely than Helfrich being the next Knute Rockne.
    Everyone is doing it now. Didn't Ohio State look vaguely familiar?

    That system Chip brought in turned around a pretty obvious Oregon regression from 2002 - 2006 and changed offensive strategy across the sport. It sent Pete fucking Carroll running away from CFB with guys Masoli and Barner. The system was the ducks advantage it was novel and unique and difficult to copy.

    The past 2 or 3 years have seen everyone copying tempo and zone read concepts and catching up. Or doing it with better talent. If Helfrich doesn't out-execute everyone running that same system the talent disadvantage will become apparent and the ducks will regress to pre-Chip levels again. Cook it. I'm out.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    the talent disadvantage will become apparent

    I thought Helfrich was coasting on talent. You confuse me.

    Cook it. I'm out.

    Jesus. Close the gates, @DerekJohnson‌.

    But Oregon's absolutely developed a great plug and play system. Which is why they opted to keep Helfrich to keep the system intact. We'll see if it pays off.


    If by "system" you mean "staff continuity," then, sure. But I think it was the NCAA which sent Pete Carroll packing, not anything Oregon was doing. Oregon is one of about five teams which runs a variation of the HUNH, run-first spread. Ohio State's another, TCU does as well, Auburn, Arizona, also. Okie Lite and West Virginia have variations of the same. So, when people say "system," I don't know how "unique" Oregon's system is, beyond the continuity of the coaching staff, the program culture, and the sweet sweet Nike cash.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    If someone dropped a '5 reasons why Oregon will regress', AzDuckFS would refute it point by point right now, complete with headers and cross-references.

    Such a fag Az.