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  • H_D
    H_D Member Posts: 6,098
    Doesn't bleed purple and gold.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    Just gone? Was there at least a warning?
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    topdawgnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Williams got a raw deal. You don't know till you see a man play in a game if he has it. I'm not judging Williams on starting in a monsoon. I'd be pissed watching miles from the sidelines.

    He came to UW as a four-star recruit out of Narbonne High School in Harbor City, Calif., where he was an honorable mention Parade All-American as a senior.

    Something just doesn't smell right with the QB situation.

    I am 81% sure Peterman went with the QB who sucked the least and would not throw interceptions.

    But how the hell does the program have three highly ranked QB's and not one is decent.

    It just doesn't work for me.
    But how is Sark bad at evaluating talent?
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,299

    topdawgnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Williams got a raw deal. You don't know till you see a man play in a game if he has it. I'm not judging Williams on starting in a monsoon. I'd be pissed watching miles from the sidelines.

    He came to UW as a four-star recruit out of Narbonne High School in Harbor City, Calif., where he was an honorable mention Parade All-American as a senior.

    Something just doesn't smell right with the QB situation.

    I am 81% sure Peterman went with the QB who sucked the least and would not throw interceptions.

    But how the hell does the program have three highly ranked QB's and not one is decent.

    It just doesn't work for me.
    But how is Sark bad at evaluating talent?
    I just hope it isn't Petersen who is bad at evaluating qbs
    Now I am getting nervous....
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,231 Swaye's Wigwam
    Yea I'm with Road on this. Why all the bemoaning the transfer? Kid isn't good. End of story. Highly touted QB recruits flame out all the time.

    Much like coaches, you just keep making changes until you find the right guy. Could be KJ Hyphen-Animal, could be Jake Browning.

    It's clearly not Troy.

    Next.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    topdawgnc said:


    I am 81% sure Peterman went with the QB who sucked the least and would not throw interceptions.

    He doesn't throw completions either.
    He was 5th in the PAC for completion % and 2nd for interceptions (in a good way).

    The problem is he was 10th for YPA at 7.3.

    On paper he is not a bad QB, good completion %, doesn't throw interceptions.

    On the field the defense knew how to rattle him and knew he couldn't get it more than 5 yards down the field.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    For fuck's sake, Williams didn't get a raw deal. He had all spring and fall camp to win the job and he lost to a fucking swede from Mercer Island. Then he sucked in the start he got and was lucky he didn't throw 3 more picks.

    If he was any good, he would have played when Miles was stinking it up. Either that or Petersen is the idiot Kim and those other dipshits think he is. We'll find out if Williams ever does anything for another school.

    Until we see what Troy can do elsewhere, I'll file it under Shit Happens.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    RD55 nailed it. The kid had two rather large opportunities to secure the job.

    The Superbowl Bonfire Incident (Spring/Fall) and the ASU game where he truly should have had 4+ picks.

    Lots of talent in the CFB world would kill for two legitimate opportunities to become a D1 starter.

    Apparently his preparation did not line up with his opportunity.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    H_D said:

    Doesn't bleed piss purple and shit gold.

  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    For fuck's sake, Williams didn't get a raw deal. He had all spring and fall camp to win the job and he lost to a fucking swede from Mercer Island. Then he sucked in the start he got and was lucky he didn't throw 3 more picks.

    If he was any good, he would have played when Miles was stinking it up. Either that or Petersen is the idiot Kim and those other dipshits think he is. We'll find out if Williams ever does anything for another school.

    Until we see what Troy can do elsewhere, I'll file it under Shit Happens We're Potentially Fucked Because Peterman May Not Be Able to Develop QB's.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,067 Founders Club
    The counter argument is as always

    Miles performance game after game
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,216
    topdawgnc said:

    Doogles said:

    Williams got a raw deal. You don't know till you see a man play in a game if he has it. I'm not judging Williams on starting in a monsoon. I'd be pissed watching miles from the sidelines.

    He came to UW as a four-star recruit out of Narbonne High School in Harbor City, Calif., where he was an honorable mention Parade All-American as a senior.

    Something just doesn't smell right with the QB situation.

    I am 81% sure Peterman went with the QB who sucked the least and would not throw interceptions.

    But how the hell does the program have three highly ranked QB's and not one is decent.

    It just doesn't work for me.
    Two words:

    Johnny Smith
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    edited January 2015

    The counter argument is as always

    Miles performance game after game

    True. He is horrid to watch. But that isn't the point.

    This is about Troy.

    Troy blew his own PERSONAL opportunities.

    Cyler ' s horrid play has nothing to do with Troy ' s preparation or lack thereof.

    If he prepared properly after Sark left we would not have seen the Swede in the Islands.

    Miles didn't throw 2 gimme picks (should have been a few more) against ASU either.

    Dont point fingers. Be accountable for your own actions.

    He had two chances and blew them both.


    #PersonalAccountability
    #3DB
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    edited January 2015

    I wasn't at practice. I mean we're talking about practice. Hard to believe anyone can suck worse than Miles. Doesn't make sense. I just have a hard time with that. I would have given Troy more game time. What's the worst that could happen - we go 8-6?

    Disagree.

    Once Pete figured out that Troy couldn't beat out Cyler after 20 extra practices - why bother developing a game plan for a perceived slacker?

    He had his chance and the ASU qb out performed him coming in from 90 degree Tempe.

    Weather schmeather.

    It is clear Pete rewards effort. Cyler and Swede suck but work hard.

    They get PT. Simple stuff.

    See Jojo and Qualls for similar transitions during the year...
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,067 Founders Club
    Were you at practice? Not a smart ass question
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,398
    Lots of good points here.

    It would've been a lot easier to assess Williams if he had started against, say, Oregon State in decent weather than one of the better teams in the Pac-12 in a monsoon.

    Still and as others have pointed out, he had all of his redshirt year, spring ball, and fall ball to show he should start over Lindquist @ Hawaii. From what I read, the primary knock on Williams was that he turned the ball over too much....well with a pedestrian OL, average to slightly above average WRs, and new starters at RB, the coaching staff rightly figured a turnover machine would keep us out of a bowl.

    With our D (even after losing Peters and moving true soph John Ross over to CB), it was Ground Chuck...run the ball as often and as well as you can, minimize mistakes / turnovers, and make a few timely completions in the passing game.

    Unfortunately and in hindsight, Okie State had a month to go over film and had a great game plan for our O: defend the run first and dare Miles to throw into tight spaces to his WRs who are inconsistent in getting separation.

    Maybe this is all of a longwinded way of saying that Lars Hanson was probably right when he wrote his Ode to Magna Carta a few days BEFORE the bowl game.

  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    HFNY said:

    Lots of good points here.

    Unfortunately and in hindsight, Okie State had a month to go over film and had a great game plan for our O: defend the run first and dare Miles to throw into tight spaces to his WRs who are inconsistent in getting separation.

    Good poonts except I think you missed this part