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Maybe Peterman is What You Want Helfrich To Be

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,040 Founders Club
    Shaw didn't make the final
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    Peterson is a great {rip} WAC coach, an above average Mtn West Coach, and appears to be over his head in the Pac 12. Time will tell.

    But this team had 10 win talent with that schedule and he crashed it into the wall with 6 losses.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    edited January 2015

    Helfrich and Coker are different. This isnt Chip's roster. Coker took over a returning juggernaut. Other than Fife not being better than Harrington Oregon always comes up with a QB. Mariota is a system QB. Maybe the best ever but not irreplaceable. Rogers replaced Farve and Young replaced Montana.

    Helfrich has proved a lot this year. Petersen hasn't. But AZ is also right in that no one was turning uw in one year.

    Petersen has to do something next year to give us hope. Like finding a fucking QB that can play. And actually changing the loser culture even if they lose 4 or 5 games again

    Helfrich hasn't proven shit yet. David Shaw won the Pac-12 twice in a row and he sucks.


  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    Helfrich and Coker are different. This isnt Chip's roster. Coker took over a returning juggernaut. Other than Fife not being better than Harrington Oregon always comes up with a QB. Mariota is a system QB. Maybe the best ever but not irreplaceable. Rogers replaced Farve and Young replaced Montana.

    Helfrich has proved a lot this year. Petersen hasn't. But AZ is also right in that no one was turning uw in one year.

    Petersen has to do something next year to give us hope. Like finding a fucking QB that can play. And actually changing the loser culture even if they lose 4 or 5 games again





    I Iike to point to extreme outliers like Montana to Young and Favre to Rodgers as if this happens everyday.


    It's what I like to do.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    salemcoog said:

    Peterson is a great {rip} WAC coach, an above average Mtn West Coach, and appears to be over his head in the Pac 12. Time will tell.

    But this team had 10 win talent with that schedule and he crashed it into the wall with 6 losses.

    Can we please put then over his head trope to rest? Smith maybe, but this is the laziest narrative re: Peterman. There is a difference between not knowing how to coach and just making bad decisions.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,735 Founders Club
    Petersen goes 8-6 with Sark's roster in year 1.

    Helfrich makes it to the natty with Chip's roster in year 2.

    What inherent truths were we supposed to pull out of these results again?
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,468
    haie said:

    Petersen goes 8-6 with Sark's roster in year 1.

    Helfrich makes it to the natty with Chip's roster in year 2.

    What inherent truths were we supposed to pull out of these results again?

    All rank speculation at this point, but the "Helfrich is Chip paint fumes + Mariota" routine is lazy. What has Peterman done to improve the program in Seattle to date? If you look at another similar rebuild at Texas, you can see Strong having done a 180 with the defense and cut tons of dead wood even if the team still has a ways to go. UW looks mentally weak, the QB development was atrocious. I find it hard to believe there isn't one serviceable D-1A QB on that roster.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,040 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Helfrich and Coker are different. This isnt Chip's roster. Coker took over a returning juggernaut. Other than Fife not being better than Harrington Oregon always comes up with a QB. Mariota is a system QB. Maybe the best ever but not irreplaceable. Rogers replaced Farve and Young replaced Montana.

    Helfrich has proved a lot this year. Petersen hasn't. But AZ is also right in that no one was turning uw in one year.

    Petersen has to do something next year to give us hope. Like finding a fucking QB that can play. And actually changing the loser culture even if they lose 4 or 5 games again





    I Iike to point to extreme outliers like Montana to Young and Favre to Rodgers as if this happens everyday.


    It's what I like to do.
    I could have listed every Oregon qb since 2007 instead

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,040 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    Peterson is a great {rip} WAC coach, an above average Mtn West Coach, and appears to be over his head in the Pac 12. Time will tell.

    But this team had 10 win talent with that schedule and he crashed it into the wall with 6 losses.

    If the team had 10 win talent they would have won ten games

    Your Division 1 coach is worse than the FCS coach he replaced

    But thanks for your input