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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    You said it yourself they weren't playing for a championship this year. So by that standard TSIO. Who gives a shit how many wins you get unless you are going to be playing for something.

    I really don't think Petersen's recruiting is going to be affected by his W/L record as much as you think it might. Really more interested in his player development than the 4/5 star kids he recruits.
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161

    Please refrain from bringing perversion and the use of "I have beaten woman syndrome. " analogies that lessen the seriousness of domestic violence.

    there is no need for " Yeah, if my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle" perversion especially if you want to bring it to the podcast. Otherwise you have good points, don't diminish them with the perversion that seems to be persistent in your analysis. I know you can make the points without it.

    Fag alert. Sorry, can't make my point without using that term.

  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    Did you take that as me guaranteeing a win over ASU? That certainly wasn't what I was saying.
    I predicted a win last week, not feeling very good about it. I just meant if we lose I wasn't going to make excuses for Petersen if that were to happen. It was a completely winnable game.
    This team has enough talent not to be 12th in the pac-12 in offense, there is no excuse for them to be as bad as they are. Why is it not okay to have high expectations?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    I thought that 10 to 11 wins seemed like the right bar to set.

    I had expectations that we'd get QB play at a comparable level to Price. That clearly hasn't happened.

    I expected that our WR play to be reasonable. Between Kasen's injury and challenges at the QB position, this group has been a disappointment.

    I expected that we'd have a next man up at RB like we did with Sankey when Polk left. Coleman and Washington are proving that there is a massive gap between Sankey and them.

    I expected that the OL would continue growing year over year. Riva's injury has clearly hurt. With the difficult QB play, hard to really tell how much they have regressed versus getting overwhelmed at the LOS by people not respecting the pass.

    I thought that the defense would be a top 3-4 defense in the conference. That's happened.

    I thought that the kicking game would take a step back and I was actually very worried about what we'd get here. It's probably been better than I was expecting but it has hurt us with inconsistency.

    It's easy to point fingers and say that people are moving the goal posts. I'm disappointed in the fact that I thought we'd have a better team. I definitely thought we'd have better QB play.

    But when I look at this team right now, I see a team that is a 4-5 or 5-4 conference team. It just is what it is. It's an average at best team. Hard to put more lipstick on a pig than that.

    I don't have a problem saying when I'm wrong. I was wrong thinking that our offense would be better. I'm not impressed at all with what I'm seeing out of the QB position. It's been shown time and time again that if you don't have competent QB play you can't win in this conference at a high level regardless of what you have around it.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    You are completely missing the point. What you aren't getting is that Sark was blamed by you and all fans who weren't dumbasses for not winning 9 games. In Sark's first, you blamed him for losing to UCLA, Notre Dame, and ASU. Petersen loses close, but winnable games and the same people blaming Sark are making excuses for Petersen. Coaches are judged by wins or losses. Anyone can sit and say Petersen is building something (I think he will). People said the same about Sark. The only difference is their resumes. We are talking about this season. Obviously nobody will give a fuck about winning 7 or 9, or 10 if he takes off in year 3 or 4, but call it like it is.
    This. There seems to be a double standard here in regards to Petersen and sark. No one here made excuses when we lost by 3 to Stanford on the road a year ago, but it's okay to lose to ASU at home?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.
    It is a failure. It doesn't mean that Petersen is going to fail, but this season hasn't been a success. Pretty basic shit there Dimone.

    Worst offense in the PAC 12. The fake punt against Stanford. Many seem to blame the QB, the other talent, Sark, Smith. Some of this needs to be on Petersen. This team was capable of winning 10 games.
    Still coming back to that? Dumb single play, move on. It's the same as those fluffing Sark over "God's Play" at Cal.
    It was a dumb, single play, but it's part of this season's puzzle. If that was the only issue, things would be great.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    You are completely missing the point. What you aren't getting is that Sark was blamed by you and all fans who weren't dumbasses for not winning 9 games. In Sark's first, you blamed him for losing to UCLA, Notre Dame, and ASU. Petersen loses close, but winnable games and the same people blaming Sark are making excuses for Petersen. Coaches are judged by wins or losses. Anyone can sit and say Petersen is building something (I think he will). People said the same about Sark. The only difference is their resumes. We are talking about this season. Obviously nobody will give a fuck about winning 7 or 9, or 10 if he takes off in year 3 or 4, but call it like it is.
    This. There seems to be a double standard here in regards to Petersen and sark. No one here made excuses when we lost by 3 to Stanford on the road a year ago, but it's okay to lose to ASU at home?
    Year 5 Sark vs year 1 Peterman

    HTH.
    Here's some year one perspective. Sark could have won against Notre Dame in 2009, but Ty didn't recruit good linemen to punch it in at the one. Sark could have won at ASU, but because Ty recruited so poorly, the young DB's messed up a crucial coverage at the end of the game. They will learn. Sark could have won at UCLA, but Jake made a fucktarded decision to go deep while driving for the winning score. It's not Sark's fault though, the team was 0-12 and Jake is still learning how to play QB because the old coaches failed him.

    The halfbrains here mocked anyone who said any of those things, but they are some of Petersen's staunchest defenders. Petersen was a great hire, night and day compared to Sark and their resumes, and he may do big things here. If anything, expectations for Petersen should be higher because of that. Anyone can make excuses. Just fucking win. The Stanford and ASU games were games that could have been won with better coaching. Simple fact.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2014

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    You are completely missing the point. What you aren't getting is that Sark was blamed by you and all fans who weren't dumbasses for not winning 9 games. The team WAS capable of winning 9, Sark's ineptitude was the reason it didn't happen.

    In Sark's first season, you probably blamed him for losing to UCLA, Notre Dame, and ASU and rightfully so. Petersen loses close, but winnable games and the same people blaming Sark are making excuses for Petersen. Coaches are judged by wins or losses. Anyone can sit and say Petersen is building something (I think he will). People said the same about Sark. The only difference is their resumes. We are talking about this season. Obviously nobody will give a fuck about winning 7 or 9, or 10 in year one if he wins championships in year 3 or 4, but call it like it is.
    I gave Sark a pass the first year. I never said sark was building anything. After 18 games in it was apparent he wasn't going to back up his yapper flapping.


    Anyone can sit and say Peterson should win 11 games in the first year when most of the producers on offense left and after game fucking one it was apparent they weren't replaced. Those people are called doogs.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    You are completely missing the point. What you aren't getting is that Sark was blamed by you and all fans who weren't dumbasses for not winning 9 games. The team WAS capable of winning 9, Sark's ineptitude was the reason it didn't happen.

    In Sark's first season, you probably blamed him for losing to UCLA, Notre Dame, and ASU and rightfully so. Petersen loses close, but winnable games and the same people blaming Sark are making excuses for Petersen. Coaches are judged by wins or losses. Anyone can sit and say Petersen is building something (I think he will). People said the same about Sark. The only difference is their resumes. We are talking about this season. Obviously nobody will give a fuck about winning 7 or 9, or 10 in year one if he wins championships in year 3 or 4, but call it like it is.
    I gave Sark a pass the first year. I never said sark was building anything. After 18 games in it was apparent he wasn't going to back up his yapper flapping.


    Anyone can sit and say Peterson should win 11 games in the first year when most of the producers on offense left and after game fucking one it was apparent they weren't replaced. Those people are called doogs.
    I never said that you said Sark was building something. Many idiots did. Being a doog is bitching about an offense that is the worst in the conference? Talent isn't the only reason why. Who is and isn't a doog and what makes one a doog always changes here.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    You are completely missing the point. What you aren't getting is that Sark was blamed by you and all fans who weren't dumbasses for not winning 9 games. In Sark's first, you blamed him for losing to UCLA, Notre Dame, and ASU. Petersen loses close, but winnable games and the same people blaming Sark are making excuses for Petersen. Coaches are judged by wins or losses. Anyone can sit and say Petersen is building something (I think he will). People said the same about Sark. The only difference is their resumes. We are talking about this season. Obviously nobody will give a fuck about winning 7 or 9, or 10 if he takes off in year 3 or 4, but call it like it is.
    This. There seems to be a double standard here in regards to Petersen and sark. No one here made excuses when we lost by 3 to Stanford on the road a year ago, but it's okay to lose to ASU at home?
    Year 5 Sark vs year 1 Peterman

    HTH.
    Here's some year one perspective. Sark could have won against Notre Dame in 2009, but Ty didn't recruit good linemen to punch it in at the one. Sark could have won at ASU, but because Ty recruited so poorly, the young DB's messed up a crucial coverage at the end of the game. They will learn. Sark could have won at UCLA, but Jake made a fucktarded decision to go deep while driving for the winning score. It's not Sark's fault though, the team was 0-12 and Jake is still learning how to play QB because the old coaches failed him.

    The halfbrains here mocked anyone who said any of those things, but they are some of Petersen's staunchest defenders. Petersen was a great hire, night and day compared to Sark and their resumes, and he may do big things here. If anything, expectations for Petersen should be higher because of that. Anyone can make excuses. Just fucking win. The Stanford and ASU games were games that could have been won with better coaching. Simple fact.
    I was 21 in 2009 and was more worried about college tail and getting hammered than I was about UW football message boards so I was NOT a half brain back then.

    What should we do then since this season was a "failure" cry about it? Start screaming fire Peterman? Yea the losses have sucked but we have heard about how turning around this program wasn't going to be nearly as easy as everyone thought with Sark's mess.

    I could kick, scream, and whine about how they haven't played perfect this year and ridicule CP non stop. Or I could LIPO like most people here said they were going to do but apparently that was completely not the case.
    Your first paragraph speaks to me, Cunt. I was in the same boat as you.

    The rest of it. Christ Cunt. You sound like a guy who posts on another site that talks about punching a hole in the keyboard. We are all LIPO. We know Petersen will get time. Nobody is ridiculing him. Wins get praised. Losses get over analyzed and criticized. Isn't that what message boards are for?
    I just don't see how already being pessimistic for the future or saying "I am starting to wonder if Petersen is the coach we were looking for" or "Sark would have done better this year" (note that I am not saying you said these things, just a few posts I saw since Saturday) is LIPO... because it isn't. It is overreacting and not LIPO.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    Did you take that as me guaranteeing a win over ASU? That certainly wasn't what I was saying.
    I predicted a win last week, not feeling very good about it. I just meant if we lose I wasn't going to make excuses for Petersen if that were to happen. It was a completely winnable game.
    This team has enough talent not to be 12th in the pac-12 in offense, there is no excuse for them to be as bad as they are. Why is it not okay to have high expectations?
    Really - Maybe not 12th, but certainly 10th or 11th. I am pressed to think of a team I would wouldn't trade offenses with player for player with no cherry picking. Maybe OSU.

    I never said you guaranteed a win...you said there was "no reason" they couldn't win, when in fact, there were several reasons that made a win very unlikely.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    While you doogs were getting "boners in your sweatpants" over Petersen...what did I say? Day 1 I said LIPO. We will know after 18 games. I might extend that a couple depending on the schedule, but roughly two years is enough to know. So far a pattern of bad coaching hasn't emerged.

    What does he need to do in those 18 games then? cause next year is likely going to be another step back
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    While you doogs were getting "boners in your sweatpants" over Petersen...what did I say? Day 1 I said LIPO. We will know after 18 games. I might extend that a couple depending on the schedule, but roughly two years is enough to know. So far a pattern of bad coaching hasn't emerged.

    Guilty as charged. I also predicted, at least sorely wanted, 10 wins.
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    But I don't give a fuck. The guy comes here with probably the best coaching resume in modern UW history. Race can me what Dobie came with.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    You are completely missing the point. What you aren't getting is that Sark was blamed by you and all fans who weren't dumbasses for not winning 9 games. In Sark's first, you blamed him for losing to UCLA, Notre Dame, and ASU. Petersen loses close, but winnable games and the same people blaming Sark are making excuses for Petersen. Coaches are judged by wins or losses. Anyone can sit and say Petersen is building something (I think he will). People said the same about Sark. The only difference is their resumes. We are talking about this season. Obviously nobody will give a fuck about winning 7 or 9, or 10 if he takes off in year 3 or 4, but call it like it is.
    This. There seems to be a double standard here in regards to Petersen and sark. No one here made excuses when we lost by 3 to Stanford on the road a year ago, but it's okay to lose to ASU at home?

    No loses are OK. The offense is bad. However, I don't see that as Petersen's stamp on the program just yet. But I'm not going to act like a bitch about Petersen in year one. Just as I didn't with sark. He had his 18 games before I went nuts on him. I mocked people that praised him based on kick as pressers and all that shit. If anything else, Petersen makes me feel like there is a plan in place and he doesn't need to get out there every week and blow smoke up peoples asses and a bunch of raw raw dancing around and gimmicks. I thought the chances of Sark actually figuring it out were about 18%. With Petersen I put it at 81%
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,500 Founders Club
    I never anticipated that our RBs and QB play would be wretched, and that Kasen for whatever reason would be a non-factor.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    What fucking talent on offense do people keep reffering to besides John Ross?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2014

    dhdawg said:

    Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.

    Lifpo

    Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
    It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.

    Here is what I said about ASU.



    "I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
    They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.
    Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
    This season is a failure
    I think "there is no reason they couldn't beat ASU" was the call, right? Expect we all knew the offense is simply a mess. Barely D1 shit here.

    Fuckin A people, this is serious doog/coog shit when we start talking about if not for this but for that they would have won.

    Bottom line is they didn't. And the fucking offense did what we thought they would do and scored 3 points.

    Wishing and hoping is a lot different than capable. So are possible and likely. Most everything is possible, but when the facts line up and you look at it, it's becomes unlikely.

    Fuck, did DJ (ILTCHDJ) do something and somehow link this place to doogman?

    You are completely missing the point. What you aren't getting is that Sark was blamed by you and all fans who weren't dumbasses for not winning 9 games. The team WAS capable of winning 9, Sark's ineptitude was the reason it didn't happen.

    In Sark's first season, you probably blamed him for losing to UCLA, Notre Dame, and ASU and rightfully so. Petersen loses close, but winnable games and the same people blaming Sark are making excuses for Petersen. Coaches are judged by wins or losses. Anyone can sit and say Petersen is building something (I think he will). People said the same about Sark. The only difference is their resumes. We are talking about this season. Obviously nobody will give a fuck about winning 7 or 9, or 10 in year one if he wins championships in year 3 or 4, but call it like it is.
    I gave Sark a pass the first year. I never said sark was building anything. After 18 games in it was apparent he wasn't going to back up his yapper flapping.


    Anyone can sit and say Peterson should win 11 games in the first year when most of the producers on offense left and after game fucking one it was apparent they weren't replaced. Those people are called doogs.
    I never said that you said Sark was building something. Many idiots did. Being a doog is bitching about an offense that is the worst in the conference? Talent isn't the only reason why. Who is and isn't a doog and what makes one a doog always changes here.
    dhdawg said:

    While you doogs were getting "boners in your sweatpants" over Petersen...what did I say? Day 1 I said LIPO. We will know after 18 games. I might extend that a couple depending on the schedule, but roughly two years is enough to know. So far a pattern of bad coaching hasn't emerged.

    What does he need to do in those 18 games then? cause next year is likely going to be another step back
    beat oregon? Nothing else matters.

    It will be interesting to see what assistants are gone next year. No warning, just gone. It will also be interesting to see what players are gone. I don't necessarily agree that next year will be a step back. This team, has a few talented individuals, but not a lot of playing like a team. The sum needs to be greater than the parts. Getting them to play as a team and have everyone give 100% on every play will change a lot of things. We have seen that at UCLA for years. Great players and average teams...

    There is a lot of sark stench out there still that rewards individual effort, but not playing like a cohesive unit. I would say if they don't take a step back next year, that would be a big accomplishment.

    I am by no means pessimistic about the future like some of you are.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    it's time to just sit back and enjoy each fall afternoon for what it is.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I never anticipated that our RBs and QB play would be wretched, and that Kasen for whatever reason would be a non-factor.

    I didn't think they would be 3 or 6 points a game bad, but I thought they would be bottom 1/3 of the league.