Pessimistic About Next Year And the Future (Tequilla Long)
Unless the offense gets a lot better, we could have a losing record next year. Counting on Browning or another savior is probably a stretch. There haven't been many successful true freshman QB's and Carta-Samuels was the least regarded of the whole bunch at QB. He may be good, but he was a late addition to the class because there wasn't a QB committed and we needed one. Having an average Pac 12 offense would be a success after what we have seen this year. The OL isn't good, but losing 4 starters is generally not a good thing. We will be young on the OL and we all know that games are often won up front. Average on offense probably won't be good enough when you factor in the defense.
The whole DL graduates, 2 LB's, and Peters. The whole myth about only 4 good players on defense is bullshit. The 4 top guys aren't just good, they are borderline great. It pisses me off that Kikaha and Shelton won't be rewarded by playing on a great team. Those guys are championship caliber DL. Andrew Hudson had 10 tackles and 2 sacks on Saturday. He's not a star and he is undersized, but you don't have that kind of game against a team like ASU if you aren't a good player. He was good as a sophomore on a pretty decent defense. Timu is another guy that isn't a star, but he was a 4 year starter. He's two dropped pick 6's from having 4 defensive TD's like Shaq, and possibly being mentioned with the other 4 guys. Yeah, if my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle, and he deserved to be bashed for those game changing drops, but I still think he will be missed. Add Budda Baker and there is 7 good players on defense. The only guys that aren't very good are King/Walker and possibly Evan Hudson.
Anyways, we will be young and defense and there isn't any doubt we will be significantly worse. Losing four legitimate stars and two other good players is never good. The secondary is young and Baker is/will be a star. The LB's might be okay with Bierria, Littleton, and Feeney. However, the DL will likely be a disaster, even if the young guys are good. They are all either young or unproven. Weak OL and DL's mean equal bad teams. Both units will probably need at least a year, probably two until they are above average. It's not like the secondary or RB where you can plug in a young guy and see rapid development. Most young lineman lack strength and their technique often sucks because in high school they were way bigger and stronger than everyone else.
I feel like this was the year to win 10+, get momentum for the program and start the Petersen era off with a bang. A losing record or even a 7 or 8 win season next year will sap most of the remaining excitement out of the program. Not to mention TBS. Winning means better recruiting. Recruits want to win and play for championship caliber programs. We have been shitty or average for so long that nobody wants to dig a little deeper. Fuck perspective.
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Most here knew year 2 would suck.
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We all thought it would be a rebuilding year, but it might be worse than originally thought. Than again, it might be better with another year in Petersen's system. I'm just pissed about another fucking waste of a season. I do feel this year was a wasted opportunity to get some momentum and "buzz" in recruiting and excitement so that next year's rebuild would be tolerated.CuntWaffle said:Most here knew year 2 would suck.
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We could still have Sark
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I agree with most of your rational points, but not ready to light my emotional fires and follow you off the Aurora Bridge.
Re 2015 QBs: KJ was Pete's KG™ and all he'll know is Pete's system. I don't think that can be completely discounted.
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If Sark was coaching, we'd definitely be 5-3 now and then find ourselves 7-5 going into the AC nervous as shit that he'd blow the Apple Cup in the 2nd half again.
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Agree with most of what you said.
Defense was great and even without Shaq. Both Hudsons (but esp Andrew) stepped up their game. It is a shame that the defense with 4 All Americans can't play on a team that will even contend for a title deep in the season. Its a fucking shame with the top line talent this team has had the past two years that it won't even touch 10 wins once.
All opinions and predictions aside, its a 5-3 team that will be favored in 3 more games plus 4 if you count a shitty bowl game. Win the games you should and beat UA or UCLA and its 9-4 going into a bowl. And by the way UCLA's OL is terrible and UCLA is worse than ASU & Stanford.
Next year will be a major rebuilding year but I don't think the defense will be bad. The secondary will be better for sure. Shaq & Timu are losses at LB but there are young highly recruited guys with one or two years of experience who can step in and improve as the season goes on. Maybe Bierria and Victor will emerge and Littleton has experience. The crop of young DL's (Qualls, Mathis, McGary, Vea, Dissly, Johnson, Gaines) is the best we've had in 25 years. I don't see why the defense can't progress the way ASU's has this season.
The big key will major improvement on offense. The OL will be worse but you get back Charles, Tufunga and Shelton…basically 3 starters. If you get a 6th year out of Tanigawa or Riva, thats a bonus. Brostek after a year of RS'ing could be a quality starter. Not a total dumpster fire.
There will be a lot of questions but there will be a chance for Petersen to show his player development. Look I'd like to go 10-4 so Pete gets free pub…most wins in 13 years, blah blah blah. But I doubt 10-4 is what bumps up our recruiting or excitement. Pete now has the next 1.5 seasons to prove he can develop players and position for a real run in year 3. And it needs to start ASAFP with the offense. -
Concern 1B behind the offensive line is the apparent lack of running backs.
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I'm less worried about that because that can be corrected easier. We only need one guy to be a difference maker there. Quality OL's are tougher to build.GrundleStiltzkin said:Concern 1B behind the offensive line is the apparent lack of running backs.
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Can't argue with what you're saying but working within that framework it wouldn't much matter who was leading the program, save Nick Saban. Maybe Jonathan Smith is in over his head but I'd trust Petermans judgement at this point over fan and media conjecture. I'm somewhat inclined to think that he has allowed all eligible QBs to start simply to showcase to the fans what he is working with. He isn't going to get anyone in here before the trade-deadline so we are stuck with a subpar Pac12 offensive roster. I'm not sure how much excitement Peterman garners in the TBS community but given what is on our roster right now an OKG can't be anything worse that a lateral move.
This season is a mess and the focus of our derision should be solely focused on Sark. I'm giving Peterman a pass for this entire season unless he completely shits the bed the second half. Mid-point next year he will start being held accountable for 1A)Current roster development 1B)Players he has brought in. The most damning fact to me regarding Sark is that he only once started a QB he brought into the program and that was due to injury.
Until then we are stuck is LIFPO mode and its going to be a shitty season plus. The rosy glow is off Peterman but putting myself back into my December 2013 frame of mind, I still don't think there was a better selection that could have been made. -
Totally agree.
The sooner the staff can figure out the QB position, the better. For the psyche too.
I'm not ready to steal a Cessna at Boeing Field and fly it into Rainier....at least not yet.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Agree with most of what you said.
Defense was great and even without Shaq. Both Hudsons (but esp Andrew) stepped up their game. It is a shame that the defense with 4 All Americans can't play on a team that will even contend for a title deep in the season. Its a fucking shame with the top line talent this team has had the past two years that it won't even touch 10 wins once.
All opinions and predictions aside, its a 5-3 team that will be favored in 3 more games plus 4 if you count a shitty bowl game. Win the games you should and beat UA or UCLA and its 9-4 going into a bowl. And by the way UCLA's OL is terrible and UCLA is worse than ASU & Stanford.
Next year will be a major rebuilding year but I don't think the defense will be bad. The secondary will be better for sure. Shaq & Timu are losses at LB but there are young highly recruited guys with one or two years of experience who can step in and improve as the season goes on. Maybe Bierria and Victor will emerge and Littleton has experience. The crop of young DL's (Qualls, Mathis, McGary, Vea, Dissly, Johnson, Gaines) is the best we've had in 25 years. I don't see why the defense can't progress the way ASU's has this season.
The big key will major improvement on offense. The OL will be worse but you get back Charles, Tufunga and Shelton…basically 3 starters. If you get a 6th year out of Tanigawa or Riva, thats a bonus. Brostek after a year of RS'ing could be a quality starter. Not a total dumpster fire.
There will be a lot of questions but there will be a chance for Petersen to show his player development. Look I'd like to go 10-4 so Pete gets free pub…most wins in 13 years, blah blah blah. But I doubt 10-4 is what bumps up our recruiting or excitement. Pete now has the next 1.5 seasons to prove he can develop players and position for a real run in year 3. And it needs to start ASAFP with the offense. -
I would just like to say that I am opposed to Domestic Violence. You know, I'd just like to get it out there. I'm classy and inspirational like that.SunnyDodger said:Please refrain from bringing perversion and the use of "I have beaten woman syndrome. " analogies that lessen the seriousness of domestic violence.
there is no need for " Yeah, if my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle" perversion especially if you want to bring it to the podcast. Otherwise you have good points, don't diminish them with the perversion that seems to be persistent in your analysis. I know you can make the points without it.
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Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
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yeah, but Woody is re-inventing the uniforms a lot so that's cool.
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aswesome'd for best usernameRapeculturedawg said:
I would just like to say that I am opposed to Domestic Violence. You know, I'd just like to get it out there. I'm classy and inspirational like that.SunnyDodger said:Please refrain from bringing perversion and the use of "I have beaten woman syndrome. " analogies that lessen the seriousness of domestic violence.
there is no need for " Yeah, if my aunt had a dick she would be my uncle" perversion especially if you want to bring it to the podcast. Otherwise you have good points, don't diminish them with the perversion that seems to be persistent in your analysis. I know you can make the points without it. -
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
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Well, KJ was Pete's last minute second choice (Jalen Greene, USC faggot ship jumper was numero uno), and I am not expecting much from KJ. No matter, I agree that another year in "Pete's system" will likely be very beneficial for all of the QBs on the roster (as they are all young and inexperienced). More interested in Browning than Samuels, as it sounds like Samuels is a run first quarterback... And since this staff apparently doesn't know jack shit about how to utilize athletic quarterbacks (hi Coach Smith) properly even in a fucking windstorm, I am not optimistic about the quarterback position for the next couple of years. Who knows, maybe Miles or Williams (and fucktard Smith) will show us something. Fucking unlikely as that is. Expecting a true freshman to come in and take over is probably even more unlikely than that.GrundleStiltzkin said:I agree with most of your rational points, but not ready to light my emotional fires and follow you off the Aurora Bridge.
Re 2015 QBs: KJ was Pete's KG™ and all he'll know is Pete's system. I don't think that can be completely discounted.
Re DL: You don't just replace Shelton. However, the overall talent might be close to equal. The defense should be solid if not great.
I can't see the defense being nearly as good. The secondary could be improved overall, but we're losing some fucking studs in our front seven.
Haven't looked at our schedule for next season, so don't know how easy our preseason is, but I don't think a losing season should be tolerated, expected, or hold as a realistic proclamation - rebuilding year or not.
The offense can only be better next year. Our offensive linemen currently can't get much worse (or can they?), so don't really give a flying fuck how many starts we are losing from the like of fat James can't-move my-feet-because-I'm-taking-a-shit Atoe.
Sadly, I can't say either way it will be interesting, because mediocrity seems like a certain forecast next year.
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I don't know what this means about me as a human being, but I actually agree with Damone. Yes I'm fucking pissed in the moment because losing is fucking terrible and is never easy no matter how "prepared" you are for it. I will be screaming and drinking heavily while the offense has shit running down its legs for the rest of the year like the rest of you. But, there is no one I would have hired over Peterman and I believe in the long term.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
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I agree with Chest about the DL next year, I think we have all forgotten what players who give a fuck look like, even if they are redshirt freshman. Guys like Budda, Pettis, Jones, and even Dissly are showing you now that the guys coming in are not a bunch of fucking skirts. The guys that are buying in are playing at the highest levels of their careers or quickly becoming serviceable players. Let's not forget that. -
TL, DR
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It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.RoadDawg55 said:
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
Lifpo
Here is what I said about ASU.
"I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.
Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.
If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.
It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win." -
It is a failure. It doesn't mean that Petersen is going to fail, but this season hasn't been a success. Pretty basic shit there Dimone.MikeDamone said:
It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.RoadDawg55 said:
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
Lifpo
Worst offense in the PAC 12. The fake punt against Stanford. Many seem to blame the QB, the other talent, Sark, Smith. Some of this needs to be on Petersen. This team was capable of winning 10 games. -
This season is only a failure to you because you didn't understand what was happening and dooged it up all the way to 10+ wins...like a dumbfuck. You were even predicting that a couple of weeks ago. Good christ..do you pay attention, at all? It's playing out like knowledgeable fans expected and the future looks very very good.RoadDawg55 said:
It is a failure. It doesn't mean that Petersen is going to fail, but this season hasn't been a success. Pretty basic shit there Dimone(LOL)MikeDamone said:
It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.RoadDawg55 said:
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
Lifpo
Worst offense in the PAC 12. The fake punt against Stanford. Many seem to blame the QB, the other talent, Sark, Smith. Some of this needs to be on Petersen. This team was capable of winning 10 games.
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That last sentence is really fucking dumb. They are/were plenty capable.MikeDamone said:
This season is only a failure to you because you didn't understand what was happening and dooged it up all the way to 10+ wins...like a dumbfuck. You were even predicting that a couple of weeks ago. Good christ..do you pay attention, at all? It's playing out like knowledgeable fans expected and the future looks very very good.RoadDawg55 said:
It is a failure. It doesn't mean that Petersen is going to fail, but this season hasn't been a success. Pretty basic shit there Dimone.MikeDamone said:
It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.RoadDawg55 said:
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
Lifpo
Worst offense in the PAC 12. The fake punt against Stanford. Many seem to blame the QB, the other talent, Sark, Smith. Some of this needs to be on Petersen. This team was capable of winning 10 games.
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Never capable of winning 10 games? In two of the 3 losses they were tied in the 4th quarter. They'll be favored in 3 more games plus a skanky bowl game…win those and thats 9 wins. Beat UCLA at home, who is worse than ASU & Stanford and thats 10.MikeDamone said:
This season is only a failure to you because you didn't understand what was happening and dooged it up all the way to 10+ wins...like a dumbfuck. You were even predicting that a couple of weeks ago. Good christ..do you pay attention, at all? It's playing out like knowledgeable fans expected and the future looks very very good.RoadDawg55 said:
It is a failure. It doesn't mean that Petersen is going to fail, but this season hasn't been a success. Pretty basic shit there Dimone.MikeDamone said:
It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.RoadDawg55 said:
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
Lifpo
Worst offense in the PAC 12. The fake punt against Stanford. Many seem to blame the QB, the other talent, Sark, Smith. Some of this needs to be on Petersen. This team was capable of winning 10 games.
They were never capable of winning 10 games. Some of us knew that.
Apparently some of us also knew we'd lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
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There is some world class mother fucking dooging going on here.. Yep - A couple of bounces the other way and UW's sitting at 8-2. Sounds like the coog who rationalized WSU was really tied with UA in the 4th quarter. Now, just win the games they are favored in and the bowl win (assumed) and it's 9 wins!HeretoBeatmyChest said:
Never capable of winning 10 games? In two of the 3 losses they were tied in the 4th quarter. They'll be favored in 3 more games plus a skanky bowl game…win those and thats 9 wins. Beat UCLA at home, who is worse than ASU & Stanford and thats 10.MikeDamone said:
This season is only a failure to you because you didn't understand what was happening and dooged it up all the way to 10+ wins...like a dumbfuck. You were even predicting that a couple of weeks ago. Good christ..do you pay attention, at all? It's playing out like knowledgeable fans expected and the future looks very very good.RoadDawg55 said:
It is a failure. It doesn't mean that Petersen is going to fail, but this season hasn't been a success. Pretty basic shit there Dimone.MikeDamone said:
It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.RoadDawg55 said:
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
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Worst offense in the PAC 12. The fake punt against Stanford. Many seem to blame the QB, the other talent, Sark, Smith. Some of this needs to be on Petersen. This team was capable of winning 10 games.
They were never capable of winning 10 games. Some of us knew that.
Apparently some of us also knew we'd lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.
Dimone (LOL) only talks about the times Dimone (LOL) was right.
Sounds like Sark in 2012 when they won 7, but it was really 9.
Here's how it plays out.
CU - W
UCLA - L
UA - L
OSU - W
WSU - L
7-6. That might be optimistic, but seems reasonable that they would end 7-6. I don't think CU and OSU will score much on the UW D so it might only take 14-21 points to win. I am hopeful they can at least get that. It's going to be hard hold WSU under 35-40 and it would take a big turnaround for the offense to score over that.
Colorado and UCLA are on different trajectories right now, so those might be flipped, but I don't think they beat them both.
Who knows about the bowl.
If they win 10 games Petersen should be coach of the year and I will move my prediction of great things to come up a year.
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A lot of half brains are just an echo chamber for your podcast. Kim felt the same way as you do now after the Hawaii game when it was evident Peterman was not going to simply put his stamp on things and rolling forward.RoadDawg55 said:
We all thought it would be a rebuilding year, but it might be worse than originally thought. Than again, it might be better with another year in Petersen's system. I'm just pissed about another fucking waste of a season. I do feel this year was a wasted opportunity to get some momentum and "buzz" in recruiting and excitement so that next year's rebuild would be tolerated.CuntWaffle said:Most here knew year 2 would suck.
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They were very capable of beating ASU, if the correct coaching adjustments were made and Petersen chose Lindquist and pounded them with the run all game, UW very well may have won that game.MikeDamone said:
It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.RoadDawg55 said:
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
Lifpo
Here is what I said about ASU.
"I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.
Late last night I watched oregon. with the benefit of 24 hours of perspective and a fast forward button.
If you think don't think UW has serious issues in several areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.
It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win."
Saying this team was never capable of winning 10 games is ridiculous, they very might still win 9.
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I guess I was a fucking Doog. I thought 10 wins.
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You are giving the podcast too much credit. There were prediction threads on this board and the majority thought 10+ wins. I don't remember too many people thinking this was a huge rebuilding job in year one. Once we played shitty and started losing, that narrative began. There were plenty of pieces in place to have success in year one. I don't think anyone predicted the offense would be this bad.UWerentThereMan said:
A lot of half brains are just an echo chamber for your podcast. Kim felt the same way as you do now after the Hawaii game when it was evident Peterman was not going to simply put his stamp on things and rolling forward.RoadDawg55 said:
We all thought it would be a rebuilding year, but it might be worse than originally thought. Than again, it might be better with another year in Petersen's system. I'm just pissed about another fucking waste of a season. I do feel this year was a wasted opportunity to get some momentum and "buzz" in recruiting and excitement so that next year's rebuild would be tolerated.CuntWaffle said:Most here knew year 2 would suck.
just the way I see it
Year two was seen as the rebuilding year with year 3 as the breakout. That could still happen. I admit I don't feel quite as good about it as I did before the season, but obviously that needs to play out.
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Still coming back to that? Dumb single play, move on. It's the same as those fluffing Sark over "God's Play" at Cal.RoadDawg55 said:
It is a failure. It doesn't mean that Petersen is going to fail, but this season hasn't been a success. Pretty basic shit there Dimone.MikeDamone said:
It's not a failure to those who understand what's going on and who are paying attention. Take responsibility for your dooging it up.RoadDawg55 said:
Not really. A lot of half brains predicted 10+ wins. The schedule set up nicely. This season has been a failure so far. That's all I'm saying. Everyone knew this team had strengths and weaknesses and a championship was highly unlikely. You like to pretend you are right about everything, but according to you, we were going to lose to Cal and get plungered by ASU.MikeDamone said:Jesus. You're all over the fucking map. It's going to take a few more games. But by the middle to end of next year I belive we will see Petersen beginning to take the team to the next level. Any half brain with a computer knew this would be a hard year and next year will have ups and downs as well. Dumbfucks who bought into sark leaving "a full cupboard" and just add a winning coach would lead to 11 wins were dooging it up hard.
Lifpo
Worst offense in the PAC 12. The fake punt against Stanford. Many seem to blame the QB, the other talent, Sark, Smith. Some of this needs to be on Petersen. This team was capable of winning 10 games.
