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Chip Kelly > Ty WillinghamCanard said:In 2008, Chip's offense thumped the shit out of Purple Jesus and the gang in the first week of the season while using a QB platoon of a future FCS back-up, a passing fullback on campus for a month, and a future KSU wideout.
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Worry about your own coach. You are completely theorizing at this point. Oregon's staff came out queefing eggs and whining that Mariota was hurt when they got embarrassed at home, after they used him as a fucking receiver. Your own program may have problems down the road.Canard said:
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Your goal is *ahem* hardware. Ours is Waterford Crystal.Canard said:
At NH, at UO, at Philly, Chip has demonstrated an ability to rapidly revamp his offensive scheme to fit his personnel, all while winning hardware.RaceBannon said:Who did Chip beat at New Hampshire? The fucking laundry thinks you're pressing
By that standard, peenerman has accomplished shit.
Don't be a twister, it speaks volumes.
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Better than peenerman at making shit QBs into serviceable trigger men too. Masoli was identified as the starter after game 2 and the offense tooled to what he could do. Everyone involved admitted Masoli was a "color thrower" for most of 2008. For the slow, that means he didn't have mastery of the offense yet. Chip made due with that level of play.topdawgnc said:
Chip Kelly > Ty WillinghamCanard said:In 2008, Chip's offense thumped the shit out of Purple Jesus and the gang in the first week of the season while using a QB platoon of a future FCS back-up, a passing fullback on campus for a month, and a future KSU wideout.
But you knew that
For the record, Jeremiah Johnson, the starting RB, was a seventh rounder talent. Good vision, great stiff arm, but no elite speed or quickness.
You should be expecting, and getting, more than you are seeing for 3.5 million dollars per. -
Yeah it sounds like Cantard has his panties in a bunch about Petersen...like Petersen didn't return his calls or something.
Even though BSU was in the WAC/MWC, Petersen was 10-3 vs. BCS opponents. He had a winning record vs. the Pac-12 and even had a winning record vs. ranked BCS opponents.
No matter how hard he wants to press and claim Petersen sucks, he simply can't explain away his success against teams with better talent from BCS conferences.pawz said:
Your goal is *ahem* hardware. Ours is Waterford Crystal.Canard said:
At NH, at UO, at Philly, Chip has demonstrated an ability to rapidly revamp his offensive scheme to fit his personnel, all while winning hardware.RaceBannon said:Who did Chip beat at New Hampshire? The fucking laundry thinks you're pressing
By that standard, peenerman has accomplished shit.
Don't be a twister, it speaks volumes.
Fuck off. -
I remember Petersen beating Chimp as an OC, then a coach.
Canard is a troll, pure and simple. -
The explanation is easy.
Two and three game seasons for spud state and Kellen Moore being phenomal from day one. Lots of coaches look great with an NFL caliber QB, limited walking wounded, and extra weeks to prepare.
Part of my theorizing is that the weekly big boy grind exposes peenermans shortcomings in lots of areas. He's already showing poorly in roster management. -
Congrats on beating an 0-12 team with a bad coach the team didn't likeCanard said:In 2008, Chip's offense thumped the shit out of Purple Jesus and the gang in the first week of the season while using a QB platoon of a future FCS back-up, a passing fullback on campus for a month, and a future KSU wideout.
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And the dancing cuntwhore on the sidelines. Oh shit boner in sweatpants is coming and so is mother, must go now.topdawgnc said:
And Uncle Phil ...PurpleJ said:
Chip also had a stable of quality running backs and an OL.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling -
Chip Kelly was a phenomenal coach.Canard said:The explanation is easy.
Two and three game seasons for spud state and Kellen Moore being phenomal from day one. Lots of coaches look great with an NFL caliber QB, limited walking wounded, and extra weeks to prepare.
Part of my theorizing is that the weekly big boy grind exposes peenermans shortcomings in lots of areas. He's already showing poorly in roster management.
But got butt fucked by Les Miles, Tressel, Peterman, and couldn't beat Auburn ... with weeks to prepare.
I also wonder why Slingblade is somehow ready to be a big time coach. He was 0-0 before taking over the most well funded program in the PAC.
If Peterman was at Stanford, Oregon, or SC ... he would be fine. At Washington he is just fine on defense ... it is the offense he has to clean up.
I know it is hard for you to understand ... but 92-12 against competition who has equal resources is pretty fucking good.
You seem obsessed with Peterman ... me thinks you realize he was a better hire than your coach and you are spending a lot of trying to convince yourself you are wrong for your fear. -
1) If Chip had a coaching flaw in college, it was that he was too stubborn. He's since just gone with what is working rather than prove he can run the ball at all costs.topdawgnc said:
Chip Kelly was a phenomenal coach.Canard said:The explanation is easy.
Two and three game seasons for spud state and Kellen Moore being phenomal from day one. Lots of coaches look great with an NFL caliber QB, limited walking wounded, and extra weeks to prepare.
Part of my theorizing is that the weekly big boy grind exposes peenermans shortcomings in lots of areas. He's already showing poorly in roster management.
But got butt fucked by Les Miles, Tressel, Peterman, and couldn't beat Auburn ... with weeks to prepare.
I also wonder why Slingblade is somehow ready to be a big time coach. He was 0-0 before taking over the most well funded program in the PAC.
If Peterman was at Stanford, Oregon, or SC ... he would be fine. At Washington he is just fine on defense ... it is the offense he has to clean up.
I know it is hard for you to understand ... but 92-12 against competition who has equal resources is pretty fucking good.
You seem obsessed with Peterman ... me thinks you realize he was a better hire than your coach and you are spending a lot of trying to convince yourself you are wrong for your fear.
2) chip tapped Slingblade as a worthy replacement. Whether that pans out remains to be seen. We aren't the most well funded program in the Pac, btw.
3) peenerman inherited the UW defensive personnel. He's not a defensive architect or coach.
4) spud st. was more equal than equal compared to its wac/MWC peers. Especially as regards TV exposure.
5) I've been against peenerman since when morons in our fanbase were floating his name to replace Bellotti. Always viewed CCP as fraudulent. His last two truckster campaigns should be worrisome.
Lastly, this place is for entertainment. Being contrarian about peenerman is far more fun than is the standard fellating of him going on around here. -
1) Which is it, Chip coached to the talent he had ... or he was stubborn. Previous posts you talk about how Chip molCanard said:
1) If Chip had a coaching flaw in college, it was that he was too stubborn. He's since just gone with what is working rather than prove he can run the ball at all costs.topdawgnc said:
Chip Kelly was a phenomenal coach.Canard said:The explanation is easy.
Two and three game seasons for spud state and Kellen Moore being phenomal from day one. Lots of coaches look great with an NFL caliber QB, limited walking wounded, and extra weeks to prepare.
Part of my theorizing is that the weekly big boy grind exposes peenermans shortcomings in lots of areas. He's already showing poorly in roster management.
But got butt fucked by Les Miles, Tressel, Peterman, and couldn't beat Auburn ... with weeks to prepare.
I also wonder why Slingblade is somehow ready to be a big time coach. He was 0-0 before taking over the most well funded program in the PAC.
If Peterman was at Stanford, Oregon, or SC ... he would be fine. At Washington he is just fine on defense ... it is the offense he has to clean up.
I know it is hard for you to understand ... but 92-12 against competition who has equal resources is pretty fucking good.
You seem obsessed with Peterman ... me thinks you realize he was a better hire than your coach and you are spending a lot of trying to convince yourself you are wrong for your fear.
2) chip tapped Slingblade as a worthy replacement. Whether that pans out remains to be seen. We aren't the most well funded program in the Pac, btw.
3) peenerman inherited the UW defensive personnel. He's not a defensive architect or coach.
4) spud st. was more equal than equal compared to its wac/MWC peers. Especially as regards TV exposure.
5) I've been against peenerman since when morons in our fanbase were floating his name to replace Bellotti. Always viewed CCP as fraudulent. His last two truckster campaigns should be worrisome.
Lastly, this place is for entertainment. Being contrarian about peenerman is far more fun than is the standard fellating of him going on around here.
2) Oh ... because Chip "tapped" him he is ready for the big leagues ... more so than a guy who went 92-12 ... gotcha.
3) Slingblade inherited his entire team. He may have been on the staff, but none of us are stupid.
4) That lead to 92-12! WOW! Television makes better coaches!
5) Whaaat? Bellotti was pushed out to make room for Chip ... let's not fool ourselves.
Lastly ... what ever stains your sweatpants.
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RaceBannon said:
I'm not arguing that Petersen is better than Chip. Chip is awesome.
But none of you knew that when Bellotti brought him from nowhere.
And Bellotti built a hell of a lot better program than Sark to follow.
Invalid comparison. Kelly had just as big of a hand in what Kelly inheritted as Bellotti did. Before Kelly showed up, Bellotti was Sark. -
I didn't realize Sark won a BCS equivalent game ...salemcoog said:RaceBannon said:I'm not arguing that Petersen is better than Chip. Chip is awesome.
But none of you knew that when Bellotti brought him from nowhere.
And Bellotti built a hell of a lot better program than Sark to follow.
Invalid comparison. Kelly had just as big of a hand in what Kelly inheritted as Bellotti did. Before Kelly showed up, Bellotti was Sark. -
If we're bashing the Holiday Bowel victory over a checked out Husker team or a moral victory in the Alamo bowel against RGIII.... what the fuck am I here for?topdawgnc said:
I didn't realize Sark won a BCS equivalent game ...salemcoog said:RaceBannon said:I'm not arguing that Petersen is better than Chip. Chip is awesome.
But none of you knew that when Bellotti brought him from nowhere.
And Bellotti built a hell of a lot better program than Sark to follow.
Invalid comparison. Kelly had just as big of a hand in what Kelly inheritted as Bellotti did. Before Kelly showed up, Bellotti was Sark. -
Fucking hell. At least land your blows in the same fucking area code as where the shots came from.topdawgnc said:
1) Which is it, Chip coached to the talent he had ... or he was stubborn. Previous posts you talk about how Chip molCanard said:
1) If Chip had a coaching flaw in college, it was that he was too stubborn. He's since just gone with what is working rather than prove he can run the ball at all costs.topdawgnc said:
Chip Kelly was a phenomenal coach.Canard said:The explanation is easy.
Two and three game seasons for spud state and Kellen Moore being phenomal from day one. Lots of coaches look great with an NFL caliber QB, limited walking wounded, and extra weeks to prepare.
Part of my theorizing is that the weekly big boy grind exposes peenermans shortcomings in lots of areas. He's already showing poorly in roster management.
But got butt fucked by Les Miles, Tressel, Peterman, and couldn't beat Auburn ... with weeks to prepare.
I also wonder why Slingblade is somehow ready to be a big time coach. He was 0-0 before taking over the most well funded program in the PAC.
If Peterman was at Stanford, Oregon, or SC ... he would be fine. At Washington he is just fine on defense ... it is the offense he has to clean up.
I know it is hard for you to understand ... but 92-12 against competition who has equal resources is pretty fucking good.
You seem obsessed with Peterman ... me thinks you realize he was a better hire than your coach and you are spending a lot of trying to convince yourself you are wrong for your fear.
2) chip tapped Slingblade as a worthy replacement. Whether that pans out remains to be seen. We aren't the most well funded program in the Pac, btw.
3) peenerman inherited the UW defensive personnel. He's not a defensive architect or coach.
4) spud st. was more equal than equal compared to its wac/MWC peers. Especially as regards TV exposure.
5) I've been against peenerman since when morons in our fanbase were floating his name to replace Bellotti. Always viewed CCP as fraudulent. His last two truckster campaigns should be worrisome.
Lastly, this place is for entertainment. Being contrarian about peenerman is far more fun than is the standard fellating of him going on around here.
2) Oh ... because Chip "tapped" him he is ready for the big leagues ... more so than a guy who went 92-12 ... gotcha.
3) Slingblade inherited his entire team. He may have been on the staff, but none of us are stupid.
4) That lead to 92-12! WOW! Television makes better coaches!
5) Whaaat? Bellotti was pushed out to make room for Chip ... let's not fool ourselves.
Lastly ... what ever stains your sweatpants.
1) play design and play calling are different beasts. Can be a mad scientist in one and foolish at times in the other. Chip regularly admitted to his own FS play calling moments.
2) I'll take chip's talent evaluation at face value until it is demonstrably wrong. Anointment was the same way he essentially got to be HC without a HC track record. I'd give the guy who discovered Mariota, installed a better conceived passing game, and has since added some pistol concepts to make the offense more varied and harder to prepare for, a fair shot to prove himself a HC failure.
3) your aside about Hellboy has nothing to do with peenerman having no defensive coaching relevance. You give him defensive credit he doesn't deserve and shield him from the criticism on offense he rightfully earns.
4) TV lead to more exposure which was pointed out to recruits, and helps tremendously in landing them. BSU was the Alabama of the WAC. Lots of good coaching, and lots of shithouse opponents scheduled. Can't get that marshmallow soft schedule save for three games a year in most pac seasons.
5) in 2002-2004, when Ludwig was the o coordinator and it looked like Tedford was the real magician, there was talk in our fan base of making a run at rising star peenerman. Stupid back then, stupid in 2006, stupid when Chip left, stupid if Hellmann's doesn't work out. He was too inexperienced in the early 2000s and we haven't fucked around with dinosaur ball since 2004.
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DisagreeCanard said:
Fucking hell. At least land your blows in the same fucking area code as where the shots came from.topdawgnc said:
1) Which is it, Chip coached to the talent he had ... or he was stubborn. Previous posts you talk about how Chip molCanard said:
1) If Chip had a coaching flaw in college, it was that he was too stubborn. He's since just gone with what is working rather than prove he can run the ball at all costs.topdawgnc said:
Chip Kelly was a phenomenal coach.Canard said:The explanation is easy.
Two and three game seasons for spud state and Kellen Moore being phenomal from day one. Lots of coaches look great with an NFL caliber QB, limited walking wounded, and extra weeks to prepare.
Part of my theorizing is that the weekly big boy grind exposes peenermans shortcomings in lots of areas. He's already showing poorly in roster management.
But got butt fucked by Les Miles, Tressel, Peterman, and couldn't beat Auburn ... with weeks to prepare.
I also wonder why Slingblade is somehow ready to be a big time coach. He was 0-0 before taking over the most well funded program in the PAC.
If Peterman was at Stanford, Oregon, or SC ... he would be fine. At Washington he is just fine on defense ... it is the offense he has to clean up.
I know it is hard for you to understand ... but 92-12 against competition who has equal resources is pretty fucking good.
You seem obsessed with Peterman ... me thinks you realize he was a better hire than your coach and you are spending a lot of trying to convince yourself you are wrong for your fear.
2) chip tapped Slingblade as a worthy replacement. Whether that pans out remains to be seen. We aren't the most well funded program in the Pac, btw.
3) peenerman inherited the UW defensive personnel. He's not a defensive architect or coach.
4) spud st. was more equal than equal compared to its wac/MWC peers. Especially as regards TV exposure.
5) I've been against peenerman since when morons in our fanbase were floating his name to replace Bellotti. Always viewed CCP as fraudulent. His last two truckster campaigns should be worrisome.
Lastly, this place is for entertainment. Being contrarian about peenerman is far more fun than is the standard fellating of him going on around here.
2) Oh ... because Chip "tapped" him he is ready for the big leagues ... more so than a guy who went 92-12 ... gotcha.
3) Slingblade inherited his entire team. He may have been on the staff, but none of us are stupid.
4) That lead to 92-12! WOW! Television makes better coaches!
5) Whaaat? Bellotti was pushed out to make room for Chip ... let's not fool ourselves.
Lastly ... what ever stains your sweatpants.
1) play design and play calling are different beasts. Can be a mad scientist in one and foolish at times in the other. Chip regularly admitted to his own FS play calling moments.
2) I'll take chip's talent evaluation at face value until it is demonstrably wrong. Anointment was the same way he essentially got to be HC without a HC track record. I'd give the guy who discovered Mariota, installed a better conceived passing game, and has since added some pistol concepts to make the offense more varied and harder to prepare for, a fair shot to prove himself a HC failure.
3) your aside about Hellboy has nothing to do with peenerman having no defensive coaching relevance. You give him defensive credit he doesn't deserve and shield him from the criticism on offense he rightfully earns.
4) TV lead to more exposure which was pointed out to recruits, and helps tremendously in landing them. BSU was the Alabama of the WAC. Lots of good coaching, and lots of shithouse opponents scheduled. Can't get that marshmallow soft schedule save for three games a year in most pac seasons.
5) in 2002-2004, when Ludwig was the o coordinator and it looked like Tedford was the real magician, there was talk in our fan base of making a run at rising star peenerman. Stupid back then, stupid in 2006, stupid when Chip left, stupid if Hellmann's doesn't work out. He was too inexperienced in the early 2000s and we haven't fucked around with dinosaur ball since 2004. -
Help me out here, @RoadDawg55, I'm not following why you are saying people are accepting a last place offense?
I think a vast majority of people out here agree with you that there is zero reason for UW to have the worst offense in the conference, even with a lack of talent. You should be able to scheme around to at least not be in the 9-12 range, especially in modern day college football.
I'm not trying to troll you, because I agree that last is unacceptable, just want to see why you keep saying people are accepting it? -
Nobody thinks a 12th place offense is okay, but look at all the posts blaming Jonathon Smith, Miles, the rest of the offensive talent, and Sark. There is some truth to all of them, but at some point it's on Petersen. Every week new excuses/reasons are made and rarely is any blame placed on Petersen. In my opinion, he's not doing a great job this year, at least in terms of on field results. Who cares about two or three years from now when the standard isn't being met this season?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Help me out here, @RoadDawg55, I'm not following why you are saying people are accepting a last place offense?
I think a vast majority of people out here agree with you that there is zero reason for UW to have the worst offense in the conference, even with a lack of talent. You should be able to scheme around to at least not be in the 9-12 range, especially in modern day college football.
I'm not trying to troll you, because I agree that last is unacceptable, just want to see why you keep saying people are accepting it?
If he had an offense that was better than the 9-12 range like you say he should, we would be at least 6-2, probably 7-1. Is it wrong to expect more out of an offensive minded coach? As bad as many think the talent is, it is also underachieving. -
Nope, not at all.RoadDawg55 said:
Nobody thinks a 12th place offense is okay, but look at all the posts blaming Jonathon Smith, Miles, the rest of the offensive talent, and Sark. There is some truth to all of them, but at some point it's on Petersen. Every week new excuses/reasons are made and rarely is any blame placed on Petersen. In my opinion, he's not doing a great job this year, at least in terms of on field results. Who cares about two or three years from now when the standard isn't being met this season? Of course we will LIFPO. We know he's not getting fired, but we aren't supposed to criticize him until year 3 when he has his own guys in there?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Help me out here, @RoadDawg55, I'm not following why you are saying people are accepting a last place offense?
I think a vast majority of people out here agree with you that there is zero reason for UW to have the worst offense in the conference, even with a lack of talent. You should be able to scheme around to at least not be in the 9-12 range, especially in modern day college football.
I'm not trying to troll you, because I agree that last is unacceptable, just want to see why you keep saying people are accepting it?
If he had an offense that was better than the 9-12 range like you say he should, we would be 7-1. Is it wrong to expect more out of an offensive minded coach? -
For all the bashing of sark u do realize he took u to Alamo bowl, second best bowl in conference, can guarandamtee u Peterson wont be there unless he buys a ticket
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L O fucking L. Your goal should be to teaching your running backs how to run forward instead of backwards. Then teach your quarterbacks how to play ball like they're in college and not still in high school. After that maybe you should try recruiting players instead of pussies. Then maybe you can set your sights on a game day championship and regular victories over the cuogs. Until then you'll be sniffing the butts of other dogs in the conference and lifting your legs to try to piss on the hardware of other teams.pawz said:
Your goal is *ahem* hardware. Ours is Waterford Crystal.Canard said:
At NH, at UO, at Philly, Chip has demonstrated an ability to rapidly revamp his offensive scheme to fit his personnel, all while winning hardware.RaceBannon said:Who did Chip beat at New Hampshire? The fucking laundry thinks you're pressing
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You've got the coug persona nailed I'll give you that.beelzebub said:For all the bashing of sark u do realize he took u to Alamo bowl, second best bowl in conference
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Our 7-6 (5-4 Pac-12) season with the Alamo Bowl was one to remember.beelzebub said:For all the bashing of sark u do realize he took u to Alamo bowl, second best bowl in conference, can guarandamtee u Peterson wont be there unless he buys a ticket
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SevenEleven said:
I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. -
bumpDuckinTurkey said:
And the dancing cuntwhore on the sidelines. Oh shit boner in sweatpants is coming and so is mother, must go now.topdawgnc said:
And Uncle Phil ...PurpleJ said:
Chip also had a stable of quality running backs and an OL.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling -
Just a reminder that I was first to harp on Pete’s offense being shitty when most were thinking it was all because of Cyler Miles.
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@HeretoBeatmyChest ?RoadDawg55 said:Just a reminder that I was first to harp on Pete’s offense being shitty when most were thinking it was all because of Cyler Miles.