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I have no problem bringing in the cult-like church boys. We've seen the cocky overrated stuff for a long time now. It doesn't work without discipline. Let the coaching staff fix the mess that Sark left. Admit it, it just sucks to lose and there's always a seed of doubt when this shit happens to a new coach.
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Every great coach runs a cult. That is a fucking stupid criticism from whoever brought it up
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Some cults are more effective than others.
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Solid.haie said:I'm confident this program will turn around by year 2-3. Our best receiver is a tiny guy who calls his unit the "Legion of Zoom" while catching the ball 50% of the time. Kasen sucks ass now, he's done nothing when targeted, so everyone stfu about him. Our best runningbacks play Linebacker or have torn their knee up 3 times. 3 absolute busts at the quarterback position, no one can throw accurately beyond 12 yards and defenses just pin their ears back. And the same personnel at Oline who've sucked ass forever. It really can't get worse from what was left to this staff on offense. And the one weakness we thought we'd have on defense has been greatly mitigated due to coaching up the freshmen. We're recruiting bigger linemen, sought-after linemen, and the skill guys Petersen has brought in (Pettis, Baker, Jones) have done well for true Frosh. Petersen has basically addressed the 'payday theory' in stating he wanted a change and a challenge. Well he's getting that.
I have no problem bringing in the cult-like church boys. We've seen the cocky overrated stuff for a long time now. It doesn't work without discipline. Let the coaching staff fix the mess that Sark left. Admit it, it just sucks to lose and there's always a seed of doubt when this shit happens to a new coach.
I remember after EWU everyone talked about how our secondary was fucked and it would be years of painful growth as these guys were brought along.
And here we are with Baker showing what he will become, Jones doing well, and even King coming along.
If you get past the shit show of Miles ... and understand the OL sucks and has for 13 fucking years ... there are some glimpses of what Peterman wants to mold the team to.
To Race's point ... every coach wants his guys. Baker came here for a reason. Shelton says Peterman is a life changer ...
It's 8 games ... call me a doog, but I believe in Peterman ... and if I am wrong ... who fucking cares, it's been 13 years of this bullshit. I can wait for the next savior. -
Like 92-12 effective?Canard said:Some cults are more effective than others.
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Petersen said at the end of spring it'd take over a year before his system was implemented.
So we can't really count this year or the next three years against him. Need to wait until 2019 before we can begin to judge Petersen. -
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Solid.haie said:I'm confident this program will turn around by year 2-3. Our best receiver is a tiny guy who calls his unit the "Legion of Zoom" while catching the ball 50% of the time. Kasen sucks ass now, he's done nothing when targeted, so everyone stfu about him. Our best runningbacks play Linebacker or have torn their knee up 3 times. 3 absolute busts at the quarterback position, no one can throw accurately beyond 12 yards and defenses just pin their ears back. And the same personnel at Oline who've sucked ass forever. It really can't get worse from what was left to this staff on offense. And the one weakness we thought we'd have on defense has been greatly mitigated due to coaching up the freshmen. We're recruiting bigger linemen, sought-after linemen, and the skill guys Petersen has brought in (Pettis, Baker, Jones) have done well for true Frosh. Petersen has basically addressed the 'payday theory' in stating he wanted a change and a challenge. Well he's getting that.
I have no problem bringing in the cult-like church boys. We've seen the cocky overrated stuff for a long time now. It doesn't work without discipline. Let the coaching staff fix the mess that Sark left. Admit it, it just sucks to lose and there's always a seed of doubt when this shit happens to a new coach.
I remember after EWU everyone talked about how our secondary was fucked and it would be years of painful growth as these guys were brought along.
And here we are with Baker showing what he will become, Jones doing well, and even King coming along.
If you get past the shit show of Miles ... and understand the OL sucks and has for 13 fucking years ... there are some glimpses of what Peterman wants to mold the team to.
To Race's point ... every coach wants his guys. Baker came here for a reason. Shelton says Peterman is a life changer ...
It's 8 games ... call me a doog, but I believe in Peterman ... and if I am wrong ... who fucking cares, it's been 13 years of this bullshit. I can wait for the next savior.</</b>blockquote>
Good poont. I do wonder though, if Peterman doesn't work out, how would we realistically ever make a better "slam dunk" hire. Peterman is, to me, the most established and respected Coach that we had any chance with. Saban? Forget it? Meyer? Ditto. On and on. Perhaps that is why I have gone all in on Peterman...there is no better realistic option. I hate sounding like a loser. Fuck. I hate everything. -
Coaching hires are a cap shoot. You just have to be ready to flush after three years. Sark wasted 2 extra years here.
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Exactly.
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Lulz, when 80+ of those or so were over the little sisters of the poor and poorer.topdawgnc said: -
Who did Chip beat at New Hampshire? The fucking laundry thinks you're pressing
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A lot of pressing. Just fucking win. This dig a little deeper and give it time bullshit should be coming from Kim and Section14A, not halfbrains. Petersen might end up great, he might not. I loved the hire, but stop making excuses for him. Nobody expected a championship, but the offense is a fucking mess. It's not the QB. We won't have a great offense with the QB's we have, but 12th is fucking pathetic. The scheme sucks and this is the third straight season that has been true for Petersen. Petersen hired the QB coach from Boise State that wasn't even there when Boise State was good.
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If you told me below average rb's, terrible quarterback (Miles is about 1 notch above terrible), below average Oline, and receivers that can't get contested balls, I'd guess 9-10th worse in conference. We're 12th because even the shit teams have decent quarterbacks and 1 go-to receiver. The Win Now stuff is a great mindset for a fanbase, but it's evident to me that not even Saban or anyone else would do anything with this personnel. Sark swung and missed a bunch of times because he simply has no clue of how to build a team. Even with highly rated skill guys he is gifted due to the school, he can't beat fucking Utah.RoadDawg55 said:A lot of pressing. Just fucking win. This dig a little deeper and give it time bullshit should be coming from Kim and Section14A, not halfbrains. Petersen might end up great, he might not. I loved the hire, but stop making excuses for him. Nobody expected a championship, but the offense is a fucking mess. It's not the QB. We won't have a great offense with the QB's we have, but 12th is fucking pathetic. The scheme sucks and this is the third straight season that has been true for Petersen. Petersen hired the QB coach from Boise State that wasn't even there when Boise State was good.
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Swaye said:
From the perspective of someone who enjoyed the ty years, that misses holt and baer, that was devastated when coach sark left, i can tell you that you guys will be alright. Peterson will give you respectability and a winning program.topdawgnc said:
Solid.haie said:I'm confident this program will turn around by year 2-3. Our best receiver is a tiny guy who calls his unit the "Legion of Zoom" while catching the ball 50% of the time. Kasen sucks ass now, he's done nothing when targeted, so everyone stfu about him. Our best runningbacks play Linebacker or have torn their knee up 3 times. 3 absolute busts at the quarterback position, no one can throw accurately beyond 12 yards and defenses just pin their ears back. And the same personnel at Oline who've sucked ass forever. It really can't get worse from what was left to this staff on offense. And the one weakness we thought we'd have on defense has been greatly mitigated due to coaching up the freshmen. We're recruiting bigger linemen, sought-after linemen, and the skill guys Petersen has brought in (Pettis, Baker, Jones) have done well for true Frosh. Petersen has basically addressed the 'payday theory' in stating he wanted a change and a challenge. Well he's getting that.
I have no problem bringing in the cult-like church boys. We've seen the cocky overrated stuff for a long time now. It doesn't work without discipline. Let the coaching staff fix the mess that Sark left. Admit it, it just sucks to lose and there's always a seed of doubt when this shit happens to a new coach.
I remember after EWU everyone talked about how our secondary was fucked and it would be years of painful growth as these guys were brought along.
And here we are with Baker showing what he will become, Jones doing well, and even King coming along.
If you get past the shit show of Miles ... and understand the OL sucks and has for 13 fucking years ... there are some glimpses of what Peterman wants to mold the team to.
To Race's point ... every coach wants his guys. Baker came here for a reason. Shelton says Peterman is a life changer ...
It's 8 games ... call me a doog, but I believe in Peterman ... and if I am wrong ... who fucking cares, it's been 13 years of this bullshit. I can wait for the next savior.</</b>blockquote>
Good poont. I do wonder though, if Peterman doesn't work out, how would we realistically ever make a better "slam dunk" hire. Peterman is, to me, the most established and respected Coach that we had any chance with. Saban? Forget it? Meyer? Ditto. On and on. Perhaps that is why I have gone all in on Peterman...there is no better realistic option. I hate sounding like a loser. Fuck. I hate everything.
It seems like most of you are getting it that a Don James like program is not only probably not going to happen, it isn't even possible anymore.
The program may turn into one of those AthletesInAction type gigs but winning with AIA guys is a hell of lot easier than Sark-types. -
At NH, at UO, at Philly, Chip has demonstrated an ability to rapidly revamp his offensive scheme to fit his personnel, all while winning hardware.RaceBannon said:Who did Chip beat at New Hampshire? The fucking laundry thinks you're pressing
By that standard, peenerman has accomplished shit.
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Every player from last year on offense has regressed with the exception of Ross. Don't accept this shit. I've been saying for weeks the whole offense sucked and not just Miles. Now Williams comes in and everyone agrees. I've been harping about no RB's, Mickens as the #1 WR, the same shitty OL. There are maybe 15 QB's in the country that could be above average with this offense.haie said:
If you told me below average rb's, terrible quarterback (Miles is about 1 notch above terrible), below average Oline, and receivers that can't get contested balls, I'd guess 9-10th worse in conference. We're 12th because even the shit teams have decent quarterbacks and 1 go-to receiver. The Win Now stuff is a great mindset for a fanbase, but it's evident to me that not even Saban or anyone else would do anything with this personnel. Sark swung and missed a bunch of times because he simply has no clue of how to build a team. Even with highly rated skill guys he is gifted due to the school, he can't beat fucking Utah.RoadDawg55 said:A lot of pressing. Just fucking win. This dig a little deeper and give it time bullshit should be coming from Kim and Section14A, not halfbrains. Petersen might end up great, he might not. I loved the hire, but stop making excuses for him. Nobody expected a championship, but the offense is a fucking mess. It's not the QB. We won't have a great offense with the QB's we have, but 12th is fucking pathetic. The scheme sucks and this is the third straight season that has been true for Petersen. Petersen hired the QB coach from Boise State that wasn't even there when Boise State was good.
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Not after 8 games at uo. He was the OC there. Get a fucking clueCanard said:
At NH, at UO, at Philly, Chip has demonstrated an ability to rapidly revamp his offensive scheme to fit his personnel, all while winning hardware.RaceBannon said:Who did Chip beat at New Hampshire? The fucking laundry thinks you're pressing
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I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
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This, if your 3 QBs, 4RBs, 17WRs, 0 TE, entire OL are all looking like the worst individual units in the pac12 your system fucking sucksRoadDawg55 said:A lot of pressing. Just fucking win. This dig a little deeper and give it time bullshit should be coming from Kim and Section14A, not halfbrains. Petersen might end up great, he might not. I loved the hire, but stop making excuses for him. Nobody expected a championship, but the offense is a fucking mess. It's not the QB. We won't have a great offense with the QB's we have, but 12th is fucking pathetic. The scheme sucks and this is the third straight season that has been true for Petersen. Petersen hired the QB coach from Boise State that wasn't even there when Boise State was good.
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Chip turned Jeremiah Masoli and Darren Thomas into good QB's. Oregon has way better offensive talent around, but that is a good point. Last in the conference should not be accepted and it's pathetic that some here are.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling -
I'm not arguing that Petersen is better than Chip. Chip is awesome.
But none of you knew that when Bellotti brought him from nowhere.
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Who the fuck is accepting this shit? Saying LIPO isn't the same as accepting this. Christ.RoadDawg55 said:
Chip turned Jeremiah Masoli and Darren Thomas into good QB's. Oregon has way better offensive talent around, but that is a good point. Last in the conference should not be accepted and it's pathetic that some here are.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling
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It's not that bad. It's really not. The offensive talent isn't good. That's obvious, but do we need a team full of all stars to score more than 10 points against Stanford and ASU?RaceBannon said:I'm not arguing that Petersen is better than Chip. Chip is awesome.
But none of you knew that when Bellotti brought him from nowhere.
And Bellotti built a hell of a lot better program than Sark to follow. -
Nobody says 92-12 in the MW/WAC is equivalent to 92-12 in the Pac 12 moronCanard said: -
Chip also had a stable of quality running backs and an OL.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling -
And Uncle Phil ...PurpleJ said:
Chip also had a stable of quality running backs and an OL.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling -
Saying how is Petersen supposed to have a decent offense with no QB, a bad OL, a LB at RB, and shitty WR's is accepting it. 12th in the fucking conference. That's dead last.CuntWaffle said:
Who the fuck is accepting this shit? Saying LIPO isn't the same as accepting this. Christ.RoadDawg55 said:
Chip turned Jeremiah Masoli and Darren Thomas into good QB's. Oregon has way better offensive talent around, but that is a good point. Last in the conference should not be accepted and it's pathetic that some here are.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling -
http://espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2014/id/9/pac-12-conferenceRoadDawg55 said:
Chip turned Jeremiah Masoli and Darren Thomas into good QB's. Oregon has way better offensive talent around, but that is a good point. Last in the conference should not be accepted and it's pathetic that some here are.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling
The top 3 offensive teams in terms of yards just happen to have the 3 best quarterbacks in the conference and skill players to go with them. The only team with an arguably worse quarterback than us is Utah, and that kid has balls that ours don't. Our qb's won't run for the tough yards like him. OSU is the anomally, they should be higher, but Mannion is also pretty overrated imo. Stanford-UCLA all have at least 2/4 offensive units that are better than ours, whether that be receivers/line/quarterback/rb.
This is not accepting anything but reality. I'm pissed that we can't even gain 3 consecutive first downs more than once a game, but Sark still left no fucking ammo on offense. That has become the biggest doog myth about this team, and was basically the main reason we were supposed to win 10+ games this year. -
In 2008, Chip's offense thumped the shit out of Purple Jesus and the gang in the first week of the season while using a QB platoon of a future FCS back-up, a passing fullback on campus for a month, and a future KSU wideout.
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And Destiny and Mystiquetopdawgnc said:
And Uncle Phil ...PurpleJ said:
Chip also had a stable of quality running backs and an OL.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling -
Again, I'm not expecting a great offense. Just better than 12th. 10 combined offensive points against Stanford and ASU. Best rushing game since conference play began, and 3 fucking points was the result.haie said:
http://espn.go.com/ncf/conferences/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2014/id/9/pac-12-conferenceRoadDawg55 said:
Chip turned Jeremiah Masoli and Darren Thomas into good QB's. Oregon has way better offensive talent around, but that is a good point. Last in the conference should not be accepted and it's pathetic that some here are.SevenEleven said:I will say this about Chip / Peterman.
We all laughed at Dennis Dixon as a joke of a QB who folded under pressure for 3 years and as soon as Chip arrived at Oregon he looked like the best player in college Football. Thankfully the knee was the MVP of that season.
Chip didn't need multiple years to turn shit QBs into gold. That these 3 look like such crap is troubling
The top 3 offensive teams in terms of yards just happen to have the 3 best quarterbacks in the conference and skill players to go with them. The only team with an arguably worse quarterback than us is Utah, and that kid has balls that ours don't. Our qb's won't run for the tough yards like him. OSU is the anomally, they should be higher, but Mannion is also pretty overrated imo. Stanford-UCLA all have at least 2/4 offensive units that are better than ours, whether that be receivers/line/quarterback/rb.
This is not accepting anything but reality. I'm pissed that we can't even gain 3 consecutive first downs more than once a game, but Sark still left no fucking ammo on offense. That has become the biggest doog myth about this team, and was basically the main reason we were supposed to win 10+ games this year.
