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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,422 Standard Supporter
    Everything changes week to week. A few weeks ago, ASU had a very good offense and no defense. UCLA did whatever they wanted on offense and ASU had no answer. The defense was bad against USC too. Now it seems like things are clicking and they are coming off an impressive win over Stanford where they only gave up 10 points. I would caution against thinking the rest of the season will go that way.

    A few weeks ago, many (Damone included) picked UW to lose to Cal. Cal had a great offense that had scored 45+ in 3 straight Pac 12 games. UW played well and held Cal to 7. The next week the defense gets absolutely shredded by Oregon.

    Same thing goes for the rest of the Pac 12. Arizona went from beating Oregon to losing to USC at home. UCLA went from blowing out ASU to losing to Utah, blown out by Oregon, and having a nail biter against Cal. Utah lost to WSU at home. It's been a whacky season.
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    I have no comment. I dont know whats going to happen. Ill just let it play out.
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    Though if I was wise id start stretching now so I dont pull anything when the plunger slides in
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    We have an overrated defense, and the 10th or 11th best offense in the league. We (ILTSW) suck.

    Defense based on total body of work is still top 3 in the conference
  • SmoooothDevil
    SmoooothDevil Member Posts: 2
    First off. Sorry about the injuries. We have been there done that. I believe ASU and UW are two very similar teams right now and I anticipate this will be a very tough game for our young defense on the road. Berco was a blessing against USC and Stanford because he is a pocket passer and his ability to get the ball to our receivers without turning the ball over has allowed us to extend drives and protect our weakness (inexperienced defense). Taylor Kelly is a dual threat but the hurry up - read option sort of fizzled out against bigger teams (see Furd and ND last year) who could contain it.. Don't sleep on our offense though. We did put up 26 on one of the best defenses in the country. I doubt Kelly starts because he barely practiced last week and our offense has been fine in his absence. I'm calling this one a toss up..
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,688
    This bored seems to have more ASU poasters than any other opposing fanbase (sans Oregon).

    Really tough game to call. ASU is a more complete team, but we have the home field advantage.

    I will say this - this is a game that Petersen needs to win. He has an experienced roster, and ASU lost a ton of talent from last season (mostly on defense). Graham appears to be reloading quite well, but Petersen needs to beat these less experienced teams with this veteran roster if I'm going to have faith in him these next few seasons.

    Yeah yeah I know, Sark culture and all that nonsense. But if we can't beat ASU this season, at home, with Kikaha, Shelton, Thompson, and Peters in the lineup....we sure as shit aren't winning in Tempe next season,
  • Sundevil76
    Sundevil76 Member Posts: 109
    I find it humorus that you bring up UCLA when you failed at home against the same Stanford team that has a O-line about as good as ASU, but an overall worst offense with a number of issues from running back to recievers. ASU is at least in the top three in the conference and to say our QB is a big down grade from Mariotta is dreaming. Kelly before the injury was top ten and Berc is light years better than anything on your roster having thrown for over 1400 yards against three ranked teams in his first starting role. Stanford came in the #1 defense in the country but Husky fans still like to think you play defense at the same level or higher? The ONLY advantage for the purple team in this game is home field. New system and first year coaches , players that are injured or not bought into the system, and you have just lost badly to Oregon. Where is the progress for this team and what decent team have you people beat so far? ASU is a veteran team on offense with a very good back in Foster that I see nothing that compares with his ability. Strong may be the best WR in the country. At least the Devils can point to defensive improvement on the road and at home with a young defense recently. This board on the other hand is in semi-melt down and confidence is in short supply but bluff is every where.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2014
    Y

    dhdawg said:

    Yep, getting plungered by a good but totally beatable ASU team at home is okay. And I'm the doog

    No. Overlooking UW deficiencies and having no other reason but hope makes you a Doog.
    It's not overlooking UW's deficiencies. We aren't good. We aren't terrible either. It's a tough, but winnable game. Do you watch any football other than UW games? Have you watched ASU this season? Could you name 3 players on ASU without looking it up?
    Yes and yes and yes
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited October 2014
    dhdawg said:

    dhdawg said:

    Yep, getting plungered by a good but totally beatable ASU team at home is okay. And I'm the doog

    No. Overlooking UW deficiencies and having no other reason but hope makes you a Doog.
    It's not overlooking UW's deficiencies. We aren't good. We aren't terrible either. It's a tough, but winnable game. Do you watch any football other than UW games? Have you watched ASU this season? Could you name 3 players on ASU without looking it up?
    he doesn't even watch UW football games, doesn't like watching his team lose
    I've watched all the UW games. 4 of them in person.

    Late last night I watched oregon. Roth the benefit of 24 hours of perfective and a fast forward button.

    If you think don't think UW has serious issues in serval areas, I ask, do you watch UW games.

    It's possible UW beats asu. That's why they play. Petersen could figure some stuff out. But they need to make some changes to win.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    No one has said uw doesn't have issues. That is pretty obvious