I’ve always been on Team DeBoer-Was-Leaving-Anyway - he was never going to turn down BAMA, and I will die on that hill…
BUT
The fact we? didn’t make a flashier offer made us? was pretty weak optics wise.
Hindsight is always 20-20 though. If DeBoer were still here and he got his big paycheck, we’d probably be screaming about how underperforming the team is.
Seems like Cignetti just signed for the numbers I heard mentioned that Debore wanted to wait on. What was the actual offer.
Midway through the 24 season for Debore you could actually say Cignetti had accomplished more when he got his offer than Debore had at that time. He had lost to Herm Edwards for fucks sake. Only the fact that Lanning and Sark to a lesser extent are retarded made him the commodity he is.
Yes, I would have loved if he stayed so don’t twist, but October of 24, was he worth more than an 8 mil offer. Did he get an 8 mil offer. Anyone know?
This time last year, Dannen was confident that DeBoer would sign the extension but from there, DeBoer kept coming up with reasons why he hadn't signed it (busy with game prep, busy with recruiting, busy getting ready for CFP, etc etc etc). One has to think Sexton had told DeBoer that Saban was going to retire so it would have been FS to sign it when keeping his options open was in DeBoer's best interests.
So the argument that if only UW had offered DeBoer $10 million off the bat instead of $8.5 or $9 rings hollow and isn't really rooted in the reality of the situation as it unfolded.
Regardless, we are where we are and it's better to focus on the players and coaches who are here than those who left for their own reasons.
Deboer wanted more and didn’t want to have to recruit. He wanted a place that recruited itself or others could do it for him.
Danning was a fucking idiot that couldn’t read the writing on the wall. He was too busy misspelling Huskies, using weasel logos, and correcting his acne rosacea goofy Nebraska smile.
The ‘23 season was about 2 things for the coaching staff and draft able players.
Win Natty
Cash in on success
DeBoers stock would have dropped after this season, he is not a recruiter, he wanted to get paid and go somewhere that recruits itself….Bama
…and he didn’t love Seattle
So, I’m glad he’s gone(wdwha) we? Need a coach who wants to be in Seattle long term and is perfectly fine making 8mil/yr and…is a good recruiter. Don James had it, nobody else since has
UW will have to spend more than $10 mil per year if they can find someone close to Dong James and want to keep them. Probably closer to $15 mil if we're talking about a few years from now. There's also no one I know of currently in the coaching world at any level that has enough connection to the program or city/state to do the thing of compromising career advancement to stick with the program.
First off….. I don’t believe Grubb ever interviewed the year before for the offensive coordinator job. It was 100% a fact finding mission or DeBoer was interviewed then
UW had zero shot at ever retaining DeBoer
that’s my conspiracy theory and I will die on that hill. Same with the Jojo Mathis injury.
It’s been while, but in my experience with negotiations, two things: the opening number, and the final number. Kinda hard to negotiate without a counter offer…
I've long been with you that the Grubb Bama thing last year was at the very least a fact finding thing by Bama. Possibly to try and gauge a bit what percentage of the operation was DeBoer and what was Grubb.
I'll also always remember the sinking feeling I had when on Instagram after the first Oregon win it was Grubb doing like a personalized thank you to Husky nation. Felt like it was a start to trying to soften the blow/set up Grubb as the guy.
Saban has said after Rose Bowl loss to Michigan that he "thought they had a good chance to have a really special season this year" which for him is code for a legit chance to win a NC but when doing after game/season player meetings two things kept coming up. Players asking how much they could get to stay, and how much playing time they could be guaranteed. He looked at his wife and they both said wtf are we doing then.
That being said, Nick was interviewing for assistant coach positions 3 hours before he made announcement to retire and no one inside the building was even remotely aware that was coming.
With that background, that doesn't sound like Sexton would have known anything in the fall to slip Kalen a note in class about not signing b/c the Bama job is going to be open but who knows.
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UW did all it could to keep him though, and he didn’t want to be here anyway!
Jimmy F Sexton!!
(Big sigh)
This again.
I’ve always been on Team DeBoer-Was-Leaving-Anyway - he was never going to turn down BAMA, and I will die on that hill…
BUT
The fact we? didn’t make a flashier offer made us? was pretty weak optics wise.
Hindsight is always 20-20 though. If DeBoer were still here and he got his big paycheck, we’d probably be screaming about how underperforming the team is.
We would be a 1-2 loss team headed down to Eugene if he was still here.
And yes, we would still be bitching about it.
Does anyone know what the actual offer made was?
Seems like Cignetti just signed for the numbers I heard mentioned that Debore wanted to wait on. What was the actual offer.
Midway through the 24 season for Debore you could actually say Cignetti had accomplished more when he got his offer than Debore had at that time. He had lost to Herm Edwards for fucks sake. Only the fact that Lanning and Sark to a lesser extent are retarded made him the commodity he is.
Yes, I would have loved if he stayed so don’t twist, but October of 24, was he worth more than an 8 mil offer. Did he get an 8 mil offer. Anyone know?
offered $8.5 than $9
too late at that point
This time last year, Dannen was confident that DeBoer would sign the extension but from there, DeBoer kept coming up with reasons why he hadn't signed it (busy with game prep, busy with recruiting, busy getting ready for CFP, etc etc etc). One has to think Sexton had told DeBoer that Saban was going to retire so it would have been FS to sign it when keeping his options open was in DeBoer's best interests.
So the argument that if only UW had offered DeBoer $10 million off the bat instead of $8.5 or $9 rings hollow and isn't really rooted in the reality of the situation as it unfolded.
Regardless, we are where we are and it's better to focus on the players and coaches who are here than those who left for their own reasons.
Deboer wanted more and didn’t want to have to recruit. He wanted a place that recruited itself or others could do it for him.
Danning was a fucking idiot that couldn’t read the writing on the wall. He was too busy misspelling Huskies, using weasel logos, and correcting his acne rosacea goofy Nebraska smile.
The ‘23 season was about 2 things for the coaching staff and draft able players.
DeBoers stock would have dropped after this season, he is not a recruiter, he wanted to get paid and go somewhere that recruits itself….Bama
…and he didn’t love Seattle
So, I’m glad he’s gone(wdwha) we? Need a coach who wants to be in Seattle long term and is perfectly fine making 8mil/yr and…is a good recruiter. Don James had it, nobody else since has
Is Danning your fictitious bastard child of Troy Dannen and Dan Lanning?
UW will have to spend more than $10 mil per year if they can find someone close to Dong James and want to keep them. Probably closer to $15 mil if we're talking about a few years from now. There's also no one I know of currently in the coaching world at any level that has enough connection to the program or city/state to do the thing of compromising career advancement to stick with the program.
Should have hired Urban Meyer.
Todd Turner, True ?!
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Did Deboer ever counter to the initial “weak” offer? If he did, I never saw or heard one.
I don't believe so and $9 million would have put him in the top 10 of salaries of all college coach salaries.
First off….. I don’t believe Grubb ever interviewed the year before for the offensive coordinator job. It was 100% a fact finding mission or DeBoer was interviewed then
UW had zero shot at ever retaining DeBoer
that’s my conspiracy theory and I will die on that hill. Same with the Jojo Mathis injury.
It’s been while, but in my experience with negotiations, two things: the opening number, and the final number. Kinda hard to negotiate without a counter offer…
I've long been with you that the Grubb Bama thing last year was at the very least a fact finding thing by Bama. Possibly to try and gauge a bit what percentage of the operation was DeBoer and what was Grubb.
I'll also always remember the sinking feeling I had when on Instagram after the first Oregon win it was Grubb doing like a personalized thank you to Husky nation. Felt like it was a start to trying to soften the blow/set up Grubb as the guy.
What is the Mathis thing again?
Saban has said after Rose Bowl loss to Michigan that he "thought they had a good chance to have a really special season this year" which for him is code for a legit chance to win a NC but when doing after game/season player meetings two things kept coming up. Players asking how much they could get to stay, and how much playing time they could be guaranteed. He looked at his wife and they both said wtf are we doing then.
That being said, Nick was interviewing for assistant coach positions 3 hours before he made announcement to retire and no one inside the building was even remotely aware that was coming.
With that background, that doesn't sound like Sexton would have known anything in the fall to slip Kalen a note in class about not signing b/c the Bama job is going to be open but who knows.
These are all good poonts but what I’d really like to know…
Was there a second spitter?🤔🤔