I have asked this on the pod multiple times (slight cheap plug)… Who is out there willing to crawl on their hands and knees for this job? Not really sure tbh. The BB team found Sprinkle somehow who isn’t an Alma mater guy but travelled from Montana every year for at least one game with his dad who is an Alma mater guy here and played football here.
The thing that burns me is that we are going to be in an eternal cycle of rebuilds. Do any of you really see a reality in which we have a coach for more than 3-5 years? Every scenario I can think of has a coach getting fired or leaving for greener pastures in that time frame.
To make things worse, with this new era, it's not just the coach that leaves. The coach, the staff, the strength guys, the nutrition staff, the recruiting staff, the marketing teams -EVERYONE is tied to the football coach. So, when a coach leaves you have to rebuild the entire department and also replaced 1/2-2/3 of your roster that jumped ship. It's just a crappy way to experience the game of football, and it's not very fun to be a part of.
Outside of a mega-donor chipping in a billion dollars, I don't see how to end the cycle.
It really depends on who you hire. Fisch was one of the best available so late in the cycle while UW wasn't in a position to be extremely choosy. If Fisch leaves for the NFL (or is fired) after year 3, Pat Chun has a better chance of finding someone likely to view UW as their final destination. Chun has much better experience than Dannen and is better connected.
But yeah, money always helps and even a mega donor putting in $50 million would help things tremendously.
One of the copes here could be almost every program will be in this place and there's only a few now that likely have coaches who would want to stay there long term and almost any coach now I assume would rather go to the NFL with the level of nightmare.
Georgia - Kirby - but could feeling like there's nothing more he could accomplish and then he's just needing to win a natty every year just to hold the line. Pressure could mount from their off the field issues.
Ohio State - Day - He honestly might only be stable because he is so mediocre. Feels like he would jump in a second if he got an NFL opportunity.
Oregon - Lanning - He honestly seems genuine in his really loud talking about wanting to be there long term but he beating Ohio State was the first thing he's done to really show he would be a guy who should get a major blue blood or NFL job. If the Nike stock stuff is true it really makes it seem like he might not leave.
Who else after this has that stability at a major program? Sark, Franklin at PSU, DeBoer will leave Bama if he gets an NFL shot.
It sucks that our rival has a possible triple unicorn situation but the good news would be everyone is in similar spaces.
That makes sense, I'm just not sure that's what I want to stick around for. That feels like the NFL and pretty much any other league. A small handful of teams have consistency and everyone else just churns forever. Maybe that's the the part of me that hates change and wants things to be steady and consistent.
I don't know. I think the NFL actually has decent parity. Outside of the Belichick/Brady Patriots and now the Reid/Mahomes Chiefs there's a lot of small and long-term fluctuation. Problem is college with recruits and portal it's not a pro format of the worst teams get the best picks.
Unless you have a Harbaugh or Kirby type alum who cares about the school who is also an elite coach or you have some kind of Oregon/Nike thing it's gonna be hard to maintain beyond small cycles. Even with Bama, for example, DeBoer could bolt if he has major success. UW has no alum or local type who would fit that mold at all.
Washington had their unicorn with Petersen who wasn't an alum but was a different dude and his dad was a UW fan so he would stay despite better opportunities and the shit storm that is cfb now that he saw coming forced him out.
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DJ went to the Rose Bowl in Year 3 (and won) and in year 3, Chris Petersen went 12-2, losing to Alabama in the playoffs (finished 4th in the country).
UW went to the championship last year
I have asked this on the pod multiple times (slight cheap plug)… Who is out there willing to crawl on their hands and knees for this job? Not really sure tbh. The BB team found Sprinkle somehow who isn’t an Alma mater guy but travelled from Montana every year for at least one game with his dad who is an Alma mater guy here and played football here.
Exactly. It shouldn’t be this hard yet I feel there’s plenty of people making it this hard. It’s burning me out and I’m 80 years younger than Race.
Michigan is a better program than UW and also sucks after losing everyone from a natty appearance including the coach
Rebuilds happen
So did Stasahusky flip yet?
This thread is “weaving”
the bored is “weaving”
You look really good for 70.
We are in year 1 of a rebuild. Next year we will also be in year 1 of a rebuild
Next year will be year 2...
The thing that burns me is that we are going to be in an eternal cycle of rebuilds. Do any of you really see a reality in which we have a coach for more than 3-5 years? Every scenario I can think of has a coach getting fired or leaving for greener pastures in that time frame.
To make things worse, with this new era, it's not just the coach that leaves. The coach, the staff, the strength guys, the nutrition staff, the recruiting staff, the marketing teams -EVERYONE is tied to the football coach. So, when a coach leaves you have to rebuild the entire department and also replaced 1/2-2/3 of your roster that jumped ship. It's just a crappy way to experience the game of football, and it's not very fun to be a part of.
Outside of a mega-donor chipping in a billion dollars, I don't see how to end the cycle.
It really depends on who you hire. Fisch was one of the best available so late in the cycle while UW wasn't in a position to be extremely choosy. If Fisch leaves for the NFL (or is fired) after year 3, Pat Chun has a better chance of finding someone likely to view UW as their final destination. Chun has much better experience than Dannen and is better connected.
But yeah, money always helps and even a mega donor putting in $50 million would help things tremendously.
One of the copes here could be almost every program will be in this place and there's only a few now that likely have coaches who would want to stay there long term and almost any coach now I assume would rather go to the NFL with the level of nightmare.
Georgia - Kirby - but could feeling like there's nothing more he could accomplish and then he's just needing to win a natty every year just to hold the line. Pressure could mount from their off the field issues.
Ohio State - Day - He honestly might only be stable because he is so mediocre. Feels like he would jump in a second if he got an NFL opportunity.
Oregon - Lanning - He honestly seems genuine in his really loud talking about wanting to be there long term but he beating Ohio State was the first thing he's done to really show he would be a guy who should get a major blue blood or NFL job. If the Nike stock stuff is true it really makes it seem like he might not leave.
Who else after this has that stability at a major program? Sark, Franklin at PSU, DeBoer will leave Bama if he gets an NFL shot.
It sucks that our rival has a possible triple unicorn situation but the good news would be everyone is in similar spaces.
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That makes sense, I'm just not sure that's what I want to stick around for. That feels like the NFL and pretty much any other league. A small handful of teams have consistency and everyone else just churns forever. Maybe that's the the part of me that hates change and wants things to be steady and consistent.
I don't know. I think the NFL actually has decent parity. Outside of the Belichick/Brady Patriots and now the Reid/Mahomes Chiefs there's a lot of small and long-term fluctuation. Problem is college with recruits and portal it's not a pro format of the worst teams get the best picks.
Unless you have a Harbaugh or Kirby type alum who cares about the school who is also an elite coach or you have some kind of Oregon/Nike thing it's gonna be hard to maintain beyond small cycles. Even with Bama, for example, DeBoer could bolt if he has major success. UW has no alum or local type who would fit that mold at all.
Washington had their unicorn with Petersen who wasn't an alum but was a different dude and his dad was a UW fan so he would stay despite better opportunities and the shit storm that is cfb now that he saw coming forced him out.
This years roster was a expansion team.
Next years roster will be the rebuild.
A lot of young pieces are getting playing time - basically the entire offense besides Hunter, Vimahi, and Jackson
it will be year 2 and I expect and much better season than this one has been thus far.
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UW is to Oregon as Wazzu is to UW.
Sad.