Points could be made that DeBoer wasn’t a great game day coach either. He was a master of his teams coming out with their hair on fire in BIG GAMES. 2023 Oregon 1, Oregon 2 and Texas all had the potential for blowouts but in all three games UW was reeled back in. Georgia this year, reeled back in. He was also the master of letting teams that have zero right being on the field with his teams hang around. In 2022 (ASU) and this year (Vandy) he allowed them to beat his superior team. DeBoer got away with it because he was so Midwest charming and accountable with the media. Fish is east coast greasy and it’s just more unsavory. As has been said, Fish has built a winning team from scratch, DeBoer has never built a team. He bolts after 3 years more often than not. I’m in camp LIPTFO.
Not really. He hit on the most moral and just and GOAT transfer portal QB of all time and plugged a few other holes. He wasn't here long enough to build something.
What DeBoer did here was phenomenal. The best start than any Husky HC has ever had.
Rick had a great start as well with Lambo's guys, but couldn't sustain it.
No one is saying it's easy to achieve what DeBoer did, but he didn't "build" it. He took what was here, hit on a couple portal guys and was an great X's and O's guy.
DeBoer is a great coach but it can also be true that he stepped into a great situation. The 2019 and 2020 recruiting classes were very good and had were RS-JRs and RS-Sophs who had taken their lumps in 2021 so they already had loads of experience. He brought in a QB he had had success with before and voila, he goes on a monster two year run. Sure he may have gotten the lucky bounce here and there but you don't go 25-3 without being a darn good coach.
DeBoer's biggest accomplishment here was getting the NCAA to keep Haener from coming home. His second biggest was keeping all of Jimmy's players out of the portal.
Amazing offensive coach. Wish he never left. Not sure if he can build a program, he's never been anywhere long enough to say. Same question can be asked about Fisch though year 3 at Arizona was a solid data point in his favor.
No one is saying Fish>DeBoer. The roster was burned to the ground. Fish has experience doing exactly what UW needs ATM. It’ll take longer than a year but he’s already done it once at Arizona, he should be able to do it here. DeBoer for all his greatness does not have a studs up rebuild on his resume. Does Fish have Warning signs of fucktardery? Yes. Did KDB have some long term warning signs? Yes, and some of those have manifested at Alabama. LIPO
DeBoer had a great run at Sioux Falls too. He went 11-2 in his first season there and then went undefeated in 3 out of 4 following seasons (with 1 loss in the other). That's pretty special too.
After the Oregon win in 2023, I was pissed off about that game, thought DeBoer and Grubb got bailed out by Penix, and wouldn't have given him his 10 mil lifetime contract at that point. Dude bet on himself, December/January he is worth more than a 10/y lifetime contract, and it's just a gamble you lose.
This thread right here is why I pay my $9.99/month at this shithole.
It is about as close to a perfect thread as we’ve had. Good points on both sides. Just the right amount of coach hate to offset just the right amount of doog it up. I find myself agreeing with everything said.
I don't think you can really compare the relative ease or difficulty of keeping Don James at UW to that of keeping DeBoer at UW.
Different era of the sport.
I've seen UW screw the pooch more times than I can remember in my life and live to fight another day. We'll be back. Either with Fisch or some other dude. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Firing him now is absolutely not an option.
It's okay to be skeptical though.
We should always be skeptical of a coach until they are a proven winner.
There were a lot of points in 2022 and 23 where I was skeptical of DeBoer.
Points could be made that DeBoer wasn’t a great game day coach either. He was a master of his teams coming out with their hair on fire in BIG GAMES. 2023 Oregon 1, Oregon 2 and Texas all had the potential for blowouts but in all three games UW was reeled back in. Georgia this year, reeled back in. He was also the master of letting teams that have zero right being on the field with his teams hang around. In 2022 (ASU) and this year (Vandy) he allowed them to beat his superior team. DeBoer got away with it because he was so Midwest charming and accountable with the media. Fish is east coast greasy and it’s just more unsavory. As has been said, Fish has built a winning team from scratch, DeBoer has never built a team. He bolts after 3 years more often than not. I’m in camp LIPTFO.
DeBoer built a team here
Not really. He hit on the most moral and just and GOAT transfer portal QB of all time and plugged a few other holes. He wasn't here long enough to build something.
DeBoer built a culture and an attitude. 90% of the team was here.
Remember, DeBoer wanted Heaner first. When that academically fell through he circled back on Penix.
4 and 8 to 14 and 0
Come on man. No really. I'm not kidding
If it's so easy then why hasn't Fisch done it
Typical UW attitude.
What DeBoer did here was phenomenal. The best start than any Husky HC has ever had.
Rick had a great start as well with Lambo's guys, but couldn't sustain it.
No one is saying it's easy to achieve what DeBoer did, but he didn't "build" it. He took what was here, hit on a couple portal guys and was an great X's and O's guy.
DeBoer is a great coach but it can also be true that he stepped into a great situation. The 2019 and 2020 recruiting classes were very good and had were RS-JRs and RS-Sophs who had taken their lumps in 2021 so they already had loads of experience. He brought in a QB he had had success with before and voila, he goes on a monster two year run. Sure he may have gotten the lucky bounce here and there but you don't go 25-3 without being a darn good coach.
DeBoer's biggest accomplishment here was getting the NCAA to keep Haener from coming home. His second biggest was keeping all of Jimmy's players out of the portal.
Amazing offensive coach. Wish he never left. Not sure if he can build a program, he's never been anywhere long enough to say. Same question can be asked about Fisch though year 3 at Arizona was a solid data point in his favor.
No one is saying Fish>DeBoer. The roster was burned to the ground. Fish has experience doing exactly what UW needs ATM. It’ll take longer than a year but he’s already done it once at Arizona, he should be able to do it here. DeBoer for all his greatness does not have a studs up rebuild on his resume. Does Fish have Warning signs of fucktardery? Yes. Did KDB have some long term warning signs? Yes, and some of those have manifested at Alabama. LIPO
DeBoer had a great run at Sioux Falls too. He went 11-2 in his first season there and then went undefeated in 3 out of 4 following seasons (with 1 loss in the other). That's pretty special too.
How about the coach that never lost?
Lots of coping
UW fucked the pooch. I won't give them a pass
You have a great coach you keep him. Mike Lude would have
You get what you pay for
After the Oregon win in 2023, I was pissed off about that game, thought DeBoer and Grubb got bailed out by Penix, and wouldn't have given him his 10 mil lifetime contract at that point. Dude bet on himself, December/January he is worth more than a 10/y lifetime contract, and it's just a gamble you lose.
This thread right here is why I pay my $9.99/month at this shithole.
It is about as close to a perfect thread as we’ve had. Good points on both sides. Just the right amount of coach hate to offset just the right amount of doog it up. I find myself agreeing with everything said.
I give this thread 4.5 stars. Huzzahs for all.
I don't think you can really compare the relative ease or difficulty of keeping Don James at UW to that of keeping DeBoer at UW.
Different era of the sport.
I've seen UW screw the pooch more times than I can remember in my life and live to fight another day. We'll be back. Either with Fisch or some other dude. Lather, rinse, repeat.
https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19930127&slug=1682151
He loses the Apple Cup (which came down to a play) and he's like a $7 million guy and not a $13 million one.
That's some big dick gambling right there.
Why does the UW administration not give a shit about football?
They don't have to. 81 percent of the fan base will excuse anything they do or don't do
The NFL came after James when the pay gap was real. Lude found that money and told gerberding to fuck off