The issue was they lied to the American people, it didn't prevent it like they claimed. It did lesson the severity, so it was a good thing for the old, infirm, fat.... but for the everyday person, under 50, they didn't need the shot. Had they said that vs mandates, it would have been received better.
Take a look at the excess deaths occurring after the mRNA covid shots were taken. Covid killed the old and weak. That culling should have resulted in less than average annual death rates after the old and weak were taken. It hasn't. Big increases in cancer rates especially among those under 50 who didn't need to take the shots but were forced to by dems.
Mandates we can have a legit discussion on. I understand people don't like to get told what to do. But if you're trying to argue that it did not have a positive effect overall, y'all need to go back to the dark ages or something.
Doog, please don't embarrass yourself on another subject. We all have some built up immunity now so those measures are not as necessary although its probably still a good idea to get boostered up. What part of that concept do you not get. This isn't another one of those things you're shooting from the hip with are you?
The positive effect was for the people I just mentioned... if you are young and healthy you were better off not getting it. I got the jab because I have serve asthma and I am sure it helped lesson the severity for me, but it sure as hell didn't block it... and for those young and healthy, if they were let to just get the virus and get natural immunity, that would probably have been the best option vs taking an unknown to this days drug.
So you're getting your booster every 2 months to maintain the super effective level of immunity provided by the shot, right? I'm sure you never got COVID.
The science was that this was an untested "vax" The science also said that the chicom crud was not a serious risk to healthy people under 40 and in particular to children. But you leftards don't do science. Everyone is the same. Everyone needs to be treated the same except for dem elites who went on vacation to Florida after locking there states down, or heading for a private beauty appointment or to the local blm/antifa riot.
Fauci on mucosal infections and vaccine effectiveness. Basically reiterating much of the Great Barrington Declaration which he wanted and got censured. Use on targeted groups and don't lie that if you take the mRNA experimental vax you can't get covid or spread covid. Then take in the horrific adverse event reports on the mRNA vaxxes
Viruses that replicate in the human respiratory mucosa without infecting systemically, including influenza A, SARS-CoV-2, endemic coronaviruses, RSV, and many other “common cold” viruses, cause significant mortality and morbidity and are important public health concerns. Because these viruses generally do not elicit complete and durable protective immunity by themselves, they have not to date been effectively controlled by licensed or experimental vaccines. In this review, we examine challenges that have impeded development of effective mucosal respiratory vaccines, emphasizing that all of these viruses replicate extremely rapidly in the surface epithelium and are quickly transmitted to other hosts, within a narrow window of time before adaptive immune responses are fully marshaled. We discuss possible approaches to developing next-generation vaccines against these viruses, in consideration of several variables such as vaccine antigen configuration, dose and adjuventation, route and timing of vaccination, vaccine boosting, adjunctive therapies, and options for public health vaccination polices.
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Until the emergence of COVID-19, influenza had for many decades been the deadliest vaccine-preventable viral respiratory disease, one for which only less than suboptimal vaccines are available. Surprisingly, little has changed with influenza vaccines since 1957 when they were first administered in US national vaccination programs. Over the years, influenza vaccines have never been able to elicit durable protective immunity against seasonal influenza virus strains, even against non-drifted strains. Although current influenza vaccines reduce the risk of severe disease, hospitalization, and death to some degree, their effectiveness against clinically apparent infection is decidedly suboptimal, ranging from 14% to 60% over the past 15 influenza seasons.Furthermore, the duration of vaccine-elicited immunity is measured only in months. Current vaccines require annual re-vaccination with updated formulations that are frequently not precisely matched to circulating virus strains.8 Although annual influenza vaccinations are strongly recommended for most of the general public and especially for persons in high-risk groups, including the elderly, those with chronic diseases, and pregnant women, vaccine acceptance by the general public is not ideal.9
During the COVID-19 pandemic, the rapid development and deployment of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines has saved innumerable lives and helped to achieve early partial pandemic control. However, as variant SARS-CoV-2 strains have emerged, deficiencies in these vaccines reminiscent of influenza vaccines have become apparent. The vaccines for these two very different viruses have common characteristics: they elicit incomplete and short-lived protection against evolving virus variants that escape population immunity. Considering that vaccine development and licensure is a long and complex process requiring years of preclinical and clinical safety and efficacy data, the limitations of influenza and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines remind us that candidate vaccines for most other respiratory viruses have to date been insufficiently protective for consideration of licensure, including candidate vaccines against RSV, a major killer of infants and the elderly, parainfluenzaviruses, endemic coronaviruses,22 and many other “common cold” viruses that cause significant morbidity and economic loss.
Again, I don’t know how many times I need to school you guys in subjects before you realize I’ve done my homework while you dipshits shoot from the hip (see NVDA post below).
If you guys hate that vaccine so much, then shoot blame your leader Trump who invented it and pushed it out. Why does he get a free pass in your eyes?
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The issue was they lied to the American people, it didn't prevent it like they claimed. It did lesson the severity, so it was a good thing for the old, infirm, fat.... but for the everyday person, under 50, they didn't need the shot. Had they said that vs mandates, it would have been received better.
Take a look at the excess deaths occurring after the mRNA covid shots were taken. Covid killed the old and weak. That culling should have resulted in less than average annual death rates after the old and weak were taken. It hasn't. Big increases in cancer rates especially among those under 50 who didn't need to take the shots but were forced to by dems.
How many boosters have you received?
.
So have you got your latest booster yet?
Still wearing a mask?
Mandates we can have a legit discussion on. I understand people don't like to get told what to do. But if you're trying to argue that it did not have a positive effect overall, y'all need to go back to the dark ages or something.
Doog, please don't embarrass yourself on another subject. We all have some built up immunity now so those measures are not as necessary although its probably still a good idea to get boostered up. What part of that concept do you not get. This isn't another one of those things you're shooting from the hip with are you?
OMG
The positive effect was for the people I just mentioned... if you are young and healthy you were better off not getting it. I got the jab because I have serve asthma and I am sure it helped lesson the severity for me, but it sure as hell didn't block it... and for those young and healthy, if they were let to just get the virus and get natural immunity, that would probably have been the best option vs taking an unknown to this days drug.
Big fan of threads like these, love that they still exist.
So you're getting your booster every 2 months to maintain the super effective level of immunity provided by the shot, right? I'm sure you never got COVID.
Never tested never took the shot never cared
Pussies
The science was that this was an untested "vax" The science also said that the chicom crud was not a serious risk to healthy people under 40 and in particular to children. But you leftards don't do science. Everyone is the same. Everyone needs to be treated the same except for dem elites who went on vacation to Florida after locking there states down, or heading for a private beauty appointment or to the local blm/antifa riot.
Fauci on mucosal infections and vaccine effectiveness. Basically reiterating much of the Great Barrington Declaration which he wanted and got censured. Use on targeted groups and don't lie that if you take the mRNA experimental vax you can't get covid or spread covid. Then take in the horrific adverse event reports on the mRNA vaxxes
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/fulltext/S1931-3128(22)00572-8?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS1931312822005728%3Fshowall%3Dtrue
Summary
Viruses that replicate in the human respiratory mucosa without infecting systemically, including influenza A, SARS-CoV-2, endemic coronaviruses, RSV, and many other “common cold” viruses, cause significant mortality and morbidity and are important public health concerns. Because these viruses generally do not elicit complete and durable protective immunity by themselves, they have not to date been effectively controlled by licensed or experimental vaccines. In this review, we examine challenges that have impeded development of effective mucosal respiratory vaccines, emphasizing that all of these viruses replicate extremely rapidly in the surface epithelium and are quickly transmitted to other hosts, within a narrow window of time before adaptive immune responses are fully marshaled. We discuss possible approaches to developing next-generation vaccines against these viruses, in consideration of several variables such as vaccine antigen configuration, dose and adjuventation, route and timing of vaccination, vaccine boosting, adjunctive therapies, and options for public health vaccination polices.
….
Until the emergence of COVID-19, influenza had for many decades been the deadliest vaccine-preventable viral respiratory disease, one for which only less than suboptimal vaccines are available. Surprisingly, little has changed with influenza vaccines since 1957 when they were first administered in US national vaccination programs. Over the years, influenza vaccines have never been able to elicit durable protective immunity against seasonal influenza virus strains, even against non-drifted strains. Although current influenza vaccines reduce the risk of severe disease, hospitalization, and death to some degree, their effectiveness against clinically apparent infection is decidedly suboptimal, ranging from 14% to 60% over the past 15 influenza seasons. Furthermore, the duration of vaccine-elicited immunity is measured only in months. Current vaccines require annual re-vaccination with updated formulations that are frequently not precisely matched to circulating virus strains.8 Although annual influenza vaccinations are strongly recommended for most of the general public and especially for persons in high-risk groups, including the elderly, those with chronic diseases, and pregnant women, vaccine acceptance by the general public is not ideal.9
During the COVID-19 pandemic, the rapid development and deployment of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines has saved innumerable lives and helped to achieve early partial pandemic control. However, as variant SARS-CoV-2 strains have emerged, deficiencies in these vaccines reminiscent of influenza vaccines have become apparent. The vaccines for these two very different viruses have common characteristics: they elicit incomplete and short-lived protection against evolving virus variants that escape population immunity. Considering that vaccine development and licensure is a long and complex process requiring years of preclinical and clinical safety and efficacy data, the limitations of influenza and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines remind us that candidate vaccines for most other respiratory viruses have to date been insufficiently protective for consideration of licensure, including candidate vaccines against RSV, a major killer of infants and the elderly, parainfluenzaviruses, endemic coronaviruses,22 and many other “common cold” viruses that cause significant morbidity and economic loss.
I'm a big fan that you're still getting boosters.
You’re a fucking idiot.
Lockdowns did jack shit positively.
Never had Covid, nor myocarditis for that matter.
But what about your anal warts?
His monkey pox must be itchy! Better get the vax Cuck. It's called NoFaggala.
And?
Your odds of not having "attained" the virus (shoutout to Magic) are actually quite low.
Although you do seem like the type who would test for covid if you had seasonal allergy sniffles, and you do seem like a basement dweller.
Again, I don’t know how many times I need to school you guys in subjects before you realize I’ve done my homework while you dipshits shoot from the hip (see NVDA post below).
If you guys hate that vaccine so much, then shoot blame your leader Trump who invented it and pushed it out. Why does he get a free pass in your eyes?