We? offered like 7 mil after he beat Oregon. We did look like shit, and he struggled the rest of the season.
Big boy contract came after he beat Oregon again. But driven people don't forget the first time, and he started smoking weed and talking shit after Texas.
UW should have shown him mock ups of his statue and a 12 mil/year salary and they didn't, because he didn't recruit most of his team.
If this was proven factual, and DeBoer/Bama gave each other hj’s prior to the NC game, his street cred would plummet. Regardless of the filth that college football has turned into, this would top all evil. Wonder if his inner circle of asst coaches kinda knew what he’d done and told him to kick rocks. Did Dannen know and played ball for the chance to jump to CornClassy? The conspiracy theories abound.. Michigan was a damn good football team and credit is given, but that wasn’t the same UW team I saw all year.
Honestly the team that showed up for Michigan was the same one that showed up for ASU, Stanford and WSU. DeBoer has had a tendency to lay an egg at times as a D1 head coach. In 2021 he was ass blasted by an average Boise team when his Fresno team was on the verge of a MW title and lost to a bad Hawaii team earlier in the year when they were ranked 18th. In 2023 UW lost to a bad ASU team starting their third string QB. All that said, DeBoer is a great coach, don’t twist, but the Michigan game wasn’t an outlier. An inexplicable loss to Mississippi State in the middle of the year won’t fly with Bama fans. Good luck fats.
There's a ton of reasons to leave UW for Alabama, including the fact that DeBoer struggled to put together fucking Top 30-40 recruiting classes, which is historically terrible at UW and now he has a Top 5, maybe number one overall class at Alabama. He was also easily able to get the top returning players for UW (Brailsford/Bernard) and the TE to follow him and could have probably got most of the other returning starters, if he wanted them.
Seems like it would have taken an unrealistic amount of more money then Alabama could pay him or him thinking UW set him up better for an NFL job to stay since he had no connection to the region/program and there's smoke he didn't like the region anyway.
The scarcity of decent coaches and the insane pressure to win is really benefiting these coaches in getting extensions and offers and shit way too early.
I've come to accept that if Bammer wants UW's corch, there's nothing you can do to stop it, unless that corch has some quirk wanting them to stay in Seattle (e.g., the Chris Petersen type). It's not about the money.
Generally agree, but if they offered him, say, $11 million in October of last year he's signing that contract. Then they at least have a massive buyout in there because he didn't have Sexton as his agent at that time and Saban had given no indications that he was going to retire.
It was also obvious, from the interview, that DeBoer and short-timer Dannen did not get along and that Dannen didn't do much of anything to build bridges with DeBoer.
This is a way it could have worked I mean maybe then Alabama goes harder after Norvell or someone who is easier to get out of their contract, but the earliest you could legit extend DeBoer with something anywhere close to that big is after beating Oregon, and then after closing out the regular season and that's a massive massive risk. Rewarding guys like that you're going to get a lot more Mel Tuckers (not even considering the stroking thing) who have a hot start or catch heat but then are nothing special in the long run.
Again, if it's even possible, you can put a massive game changing extension on the table after the first Oregon win, but keep in mind they barely won that game at home and they almost assuredly were gonna have to beat Oregon again at that point on a neutral field and then how good would that extension look if they lost the rematch?
Sure, but that's now w/o a goodly amount of risk. Clearly, DeBoer was on the rise after knocking off Oregon in Seattle, but that was a tight game which very easily could have gone the other way. I don't think DeBoer is an $11,000,000 man after Oregon (and UW doesn't have the same margin for error like the rich kids). He was after the CCG or Sugar Bowl - albeit one who still wasn't a proven recruiter.
I agree with this. After Oregon 1, you’ve got a coach that almost blew an 11 point second half lead at home and hasn’t yet finished two full recruiting classes. The first offer would have put him in the upper third of the B1G. Then Dannen sees the uninspired efforts against ASU, Stanford and WSU, sees the fringe recruiting class and probably thinks his offer is still about right. They’re undefeated so he might sweeten it a bit but they’re close. After the P12CG and the Sugar Bowl Dannen knew he was fucked. Probably thought it was all in hand until it wasn’t. If they’d gone with 10 million in October and UW kicks a couple of the many regular season squeakers he looks silly at that price tag. The Mel Tucker and Jimbo Fisher contracts were out in the ether giving pause, I’m sure.
Great leaders also know when the risk is too high. FDR and Churchill weren't gonna sign off on 1943 Normandy landings no matter how much @DerekJohnson pressured them.
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I tend to believe this but I don't think he's completely lying either.
My issue, as the jilted ex-boyfriend, is that he negotiated with Bama before UW's season was over
We? offered like 7 mil after he beat Oregon. We did look like shit, and he struggled the rest of the season.
Big boy contract came after he beat Oregon again. But driven people don't forget the first time, and he started smoking weed and talking shit after Texas.
UW should have shown him mock ups of his statue and a 12 mil/year salary and they didn't, because he didn't recruit most of his team.
If this was proven factual, and DeBoer/Bama gave each other hj’s prior to the NC game, his street cred would plummet. Regardless of the filth that college football has turned into, this would top all evil. Wonder if his inner circle of asst coaches kinda knew what he’d done and told him to kick rocks. Did Dannen know and played ball for the chance to jump to CornClassy? The conspiracy theories abound.. Michigan was a damn good football team and credit is given, but that wasn’t the same UW team I saw all year.
Honestly the team that showed up for Michigan was the same one that showed up for ASU, Stanford and WSU. DeBoer has had a tendency to lay an egg at times as a D1 head coach. In 2021 he was ass blasted by an average Boise team when his Fresno team was on the verge of a MW title and lost to a bad Hawaii team earlier in the year when they were ranked 18th. In 2023 UW lost to a bad ASU team starting their third string QB. All that said, DeBoer is a great coach, don’t twist, but the Michigan game wasn’t an outlier. An inexplicable loss to Mississippi State in the middle of the year won’t fly with Bama fans. Good luck fats.
this has always been my biggest issue with the DB.
flat as can be as an entire team in the biggest game since the early 1990's.
Here to talk some Dawgs !
There's a ton of reasons to leave UW for Alabama, including the fact that DeBoer struggled to put together fucking Top 30-40 recruiting classes, which is historically terrible at UW and now he has a Top 5, maybe number one overall class at Alabama. He was also easily able to get the top returning players for UW (Brailsford/Bernard) and the TE to follow him and could have probably got most of the other returning starters, if he wanted them.
Seems like it would have taken an unrealistic amount of more money then Alabama could pay him or him thinking UW set him up better for an NFL job to stay since he had no connection to the region/program and there's smoke he didn't like the region anyway.
The scarcity of decent coaches and the insane pressure to win is really benefiting these coaches in getting extensions and offers and shit way too early.
The dude was checked out for our NC game…. who gives a shit anymore after that.
I don't think it's fair to say checked out, but he was certainly heavily distracted
Well now you’ve finally posted something to laugh about
Have we ever considered DeBoer left because he's scared of Lanning and that he's bring the SEC to the west coast?
I've come to accept that if Bammer wants UW's corch, there's nothing you can do to stop it, unless that corch has some quirk wanting them to stay in Seattle (e.g., the Chris Petersen type). It's not about the money.
Generally agree, but if they offered him, say, $11 million in October of last year he's signing that contract. Then they at least have a massive buyout in there because he didn't have Sexton as his agent at that time and Saban had given no indications that he was going to retire.
It was also obvious, from the interview, that DeBoer and short-timer Dannen did not get along and that Dannen didn't do much of anything to build bridges with DeBoer.
This is a way it could have worked I mean maybe then Alabama goes harder after Norvell or someone who is easier to get out of their contract, but the earliest you could legit extend DeBoer with something anywhere close to that big is after beating Oregon, and then after closing out the regular season and that's a massive massive risk. Rewarding guys like that you're going to get a lot more Mel Tuckers (not even considering the stroking thing) who have a hot start or catch heat but then are nothing special in the long run.
Again, if it's even possible, you can put a massive game changing extension on the table after the first Oregon win, but keep in mind they barely won that game at home and they almost assuredly were gonna have to beat Oregon again at that point on a neutral field and then how good would that extension look if they lost the rematch?
Sure, but that's now w/o a goodly amount of risk. Clearly, DeBoer was on the rise after knocking off Oregon in Seattle, but that was a tight game which very easily could have gone the other way. I don't think DeBoer is an $11,000,000 man after Oregon (and UW doesn't have the same margin for error like the rich kids). He was after the CCG or Sugar Bowl - albeit one who still wasn't a proven recruiter.
I agree with this. After Oregon 1, you’ve got a coach that almost blew an 11 point second half lead at home and hasn’t yet finished two full recruiting classes. The first offer would have put him in the upper third of the B1G. Then Dannen sees the uninspired efforts against ASU, Stanford and WSU, sees the fringe recruiting class and probably thinks his offer is still about right. They’re undefeated so he might sweeten it a bit but they’re close. After the P12CG and the Sugar Bowl Dannen knew he was fucked. Probably thought it was all in hand until it wasn’t. If they’d gone with 10 million in October and UW kicks a couple of the many regular season squeakers he looks silly at that price tag. The Mel Tucker and Jimbo Fisher contracts were out in the ether giving pause, I’m sure.
@theknowledge our very own errand boy sent by grocery story clerks to collect a bill gets it.
Great leaders know without risk there is no reward
Dannen is the errand boy. Kurtz makes DeBoer sign
Great leaders also know when the risk is too high. FDR and Churchill weren't gonna sign off on 1943 Normandy landings no matter how much @DerekJohnson pressured them.
UW was gutless as usual
And lost again