"My opinion on things evolved as more information comes to light." Well, some of us could read the room and we didn't need to evolve after offing tens of thousands of Ukrainians and destroying billions of dollars of infrastructure that the dems and RINOs seem to think spending US money we don't have on the Ukraine to rebuild while ignoring our own border.
You have a hard time with this thought. We aren't doing two things at once. The only leverage the House has is to force the Senate to fund actual and real border security is to withhold sh*t that they want. It's not only the right thing to do, but actual border security if very popular with the public. The dementia patient just caved and now is doing kabuki theater border security and pretending that he is now tough on the border. Make the dem senators from purple and red states vote against real border security. Make them go full PGOS and make it clear that it's Ukraine First.
They aren't conscripting 18-25 year olds at all. Minimum age was just dropped from 27 to 25 to fill the ranks. They aren't sending boys off to war like fantasizers often claim.
No I just don't care that much for a demonrat created dictatorship run by a despot that launders our tax dollars to themselves and demonrats and RINOs to damage our own country. Allow 40 some odd biolabs in Mexico and we'll attack them. If the people of Ukraine won't do anything to free themselves of the dictator I sure as hell don't want to!
Ukraine has lost over 20% of its territory and a major breadbasket of their (and the world's) economy, the Donbas. A freeze is just a way for Russia to reconstitute for further aggression, reap spoils, and continue their culturcide/ethnocide against Ukrainians in Ukrainian territory. I doubt it happens. Putin has passed the point of no return on this one, and Ukraine won't submit. This doesn't end until Russia implodes internally or European nations/NATO provide deterrence beyond what we're currently seeing. No new boundaries are going to be made anytime soon and the fight needs to be maintained until Russian internal combustion, realistically. That's the best case scenario, and I hope it ends with Ukraine getting back what's theirs.
Ukraine has proven that they know how to defend their land.
20% of that territory, 19% of which was taken initially when the Ukrainians were still denying that Russia was doing anything beyond training exercises.
Since fall 2022, Ukraine has taken back far more territory than it has lost (All of Kherson and most of Kharkiv oblasts).
I don't think any level of rebuilding their armed forces is going to get Russia any closer to taking over Ukraine. They are woeful at combined arms and they can't fly their planes near the border without risking them getting shot down.
All they can do is literally inch along while blasting shit with inaccurate artillery fire and flamethrower TOS systems.
I had a whole post written and then my dad called and it disappeared. Cliff notes, guaranteed commitments and lifting of restrictions by NATO and EU nations will allow for Ukraine and supporting countries to budget, plan, lessening the contribution from each individual country and increasing the contribution and efficiency of the the whole. Do it not and we're sitting in this quagmire for ages bleeding money and playing whack a mole. Putin is no joke, he's past the point of diplomacy. This is a global burden now. Sucks that we have to deal with it but we have to deal with it. Whether it be by holding ground until Russia internally implodes, or by military defeat, I don't have the answers. I just know that an armistice/frozen conflict is a pipe dream. Ain't gonna happen.
I asked PGOS this several times and he just said it wouldn't happen. So, you are for eternal war with the US playing Team America. Putin will not accept defeat. He will go tactical nukes and the Euros and the American public have no desire for World War III. We threaten retaliation and Putin says he will nuke New York City if we retaliate. If the Euros think protecting Europe is worth it, then let them do it. If they don't, then they can pay the consequences. On the world stage Russia is a nuisance for us, the big problem is the chicoms and neither the dems or the neocons are serious about dealing with China.
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"My opinion on things evolved as more information comes to light." Well, some of us could read the room and we didn't need to evolve after offing tens of thousands of Ukrainians and destroying billions of dollars of infrastructure that the dems and RINOs seem to think spending US money we don't have on the Ukraine to rebuild while ignoring our own border.
You guys have been saying Russia is going to actually accomplish something meaningful for over a year.
A few villages in BFE is all Russia has done since.
Don't look at me. I said a 5 year stalemate. Russia is ahead of where I thought they'd be at this time.
I’ve said it’s none of our fucking business.
If the Ukraines and Russians want to kill one another, so be it. That’s their moral minefield.
Make love not war.
It suits US interests to help Ukraine defend itself.
Agree on your last point.
It suits US interests to defend it's own border first. You and the dems and neocons in Congress disagree.
For the 10th time, the US can do more than one thing at a time
You have a hard time with this thought. We aren't doing two things at once. The only leverage the House has is to force the Senate to fund actual and real border security is to withhold sh*t that they want. It's not only the right thing to do, but actual border security if very popular with the public. The dementia patient just caved and now is doing kabuki theater border security and pretending that he is now tough on the border. Make the dem senators from purple and red states vote against real border security. Make them go full PGOS and make it clear that it's Ukraine First.
Except it can’t.
Or won’t.
I think it's more wont than it is cant
I don't disagree. So make the dem senators vote on it rather than let the dementia patient and Chucky Schumer abandon our border.
They aren't conscripting 18-25 year olds at all. Minimum age was just dropped from 27 to 25 to fill the ranks. They aren't sending boys off to war like fantasizers often claim.
EDIT: I misread, mb. Yes.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-conscription-mobilization-251058a942a253f3eaec2c53373adf03
No I just don't care that much for a demonrat created dictatorship run by a despot that launders our tax dollars to themselves and demonrats and RINOs to damage our own country. Allow 40 some odd biolabs in Mexico and we'll attack them. If the people of Ukraine won't do anything to free themselves of the dictator I sure as hell don't want to!
Ukraine has lost over 20% of its territory and a major breadbasket of their (and the world's) economy, the Donbas. A freeze is just a way for Russia to reconstitute for further aggression, reap spoils, and continue their culturcide/ethnocide against Ukrainians in Ukrainian territory. I doubt it happens. Putin has passed the point of no return on this one, and Ukraine won't submit. This doesn't end until Russia implodes internally or European nations/NATO provide deterrence beyond what we're currently seeing. No new boundaries are going to be made anytime soon and the fight needs to be maintained until Russian internal combustion, realistically. That's the best case scenario, and I hope it ends with Ukraine getting back what's theirs.
What do you think the odds are of your best case scenario coming true without serious escalation of the US's involvement?
Ukraine has proven that they know how to defend their land.
20% of that territory, 19% of which was taken initially when the Ukrainians were still denying that Russia was doing anything beyond training exercises.
Since fall 2022, Ukraine has taken back far more territory than it has lost (All of Kherson and most of Kharkiv oblasts).
I don't think any level of rebuilding their armed forces is going to get Russia any closer to taking over Ukraine. They are woeful at combined arms and they can't fly their planes near the border without risking them getting shot down.
All they can do is literally inch along while blasting shit with inaccurate artillery fire and flamethrower TOS systems.
Also, what's with the character limits when quoting posts?
I blame Zelensky
I had a whole post written and then my dad called and it disappeared. Cliff notes, guaranteed commitments and lifting of restrictions by NATO and EU nations will allow for Ukraine and supporting countries to budget, plan, lessening the contribution from each individual country and increasing the contribution and efficiency of the the whole. Do it not and we're sitting in this quagmire for ages bleeding money and playing whack a mole. Putin is no joke, he's past the point of diplomacy. This is a global burden now. Sucks that we have to deal with it but we have to deal with it. Whether it be by holding ground until Russia internally implodes, or by military defeat, I don't have the answers. I just know that an armistice/frozen conflict is a pipe dream. Ain't gonna happen.
I asked PGOS this several times and he just said it wouldn't happen. So, you are for eternal war with the US playing Team America. Putin will not accept defeat. He will go tactical nukes and the Euros and the American public have no desire for World War III. We threaten retaliation and Putin says he will nuke New York City if we retaliate. If the Euros think protecting Europe is worth it, then let them do it. If they don't, then they can pay the consequences. On the world stage Russia is a nuisance for us, the big problem is the chicoms and neither the dems or the neocons are serious about dealing with China.