Thoughts on Fisch & Staying Long

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• GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,507

  January 15

  Can UW afford to fire him if he sucks, assuming a large buyout?

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• AEB Member Posts: 2,983

  January 15 edited January 15

  GrundleStiltzkin said:

  Can UW afford to fire him if he sucks, assuming a large buyout?

  I purposely left that part out. See Mike Hopkins
  
  EDIT - joking aside, the full B1G share helps a lot on that front. As long as he doesn’t hit a player and we can make it two years.

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• BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,755

  January 15

  We won't be at a full revenue share for another 6 years.

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• AEB Member Posts: 2,983

  January 15

  Delete thread. I thought it was two.

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• PatsDoog Member Posts: 159

  January 15

  I think he stays unless Harbaugh remains at Michigan for another year and that job opens up. The more I hear about Florida the more I think their cheap AD won't have the balls to pay out 30 mil for Nipples' buyout and another 20mil+ for Fisch's alongside a new contract. That's A&M money.

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• whlinder Member Posts: 4,883

  January 15

  Yeah with a 7 year deal and our half share we're pretty much tied to him for 5 years if he sucks. Maaaaaybe only 4 pending what the money looks like in a few years or if we get Gates to fund sports.

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• AEB Member Posts: 2,983

  January 15

  PatsDoog said:

  I think he stays unless Harbaugh remains at Michigan for another year and that job opens up. The more I hear about Florida the more I think their cheap AD won't have the balls to pay out 30 mil for Nipples' buyout and another 20mil+ for Fisch's alongside a new contract. That's A&M money.

  Not as concerned about FL. He’s a Jersey native who went to FL to get connected with Spurrier to get into coaching. That seems more transactional than not.

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• WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,803

  January 15

  we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

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• AEB Member Posts: 2,983

  January 15

  WilburHooksHands said:

  we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

  Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.

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• GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,507

  January 15

  AEB said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

  Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.

  How so?

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• WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,803

  January 15

  he’s the first hire of “this type of guy” we’ve made since neuheisel. I don’t think we knew sark was that kind of guy.

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• AEB Member Posts: 2,983

  January 15

  GrundleStiltzkin said:

  AEB said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

  Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.

  How so?

  He’ll be portaling in his own QB and RB for one.

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• GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,507

  January 15

  AEB said:

  GrundleStiltzkin said:

  AEB said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

  Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.

  How so?

  He’ll be portaling in his own QB and RB for one.

  DeBoor tried to portal one and got another of his former QBs. Guess he didn't get a RB. I'm not arguing, I don't know much about this Fisch fellah.

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• CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,748

  January 15

  AEB said:

  1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.
  
  2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.
  
  The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.
  
  TL;DR - WGAF

  Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.

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• AEB Member Posts: 2,983

  January 15

  GrundleStiltzkin said:

  AEB said:

  GrundleStiltzkin said:

  AEB said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

  Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.

  How so?

  He’ll be portaling in his own QB and RB for one.

  DeBoor tried to portal one and got another of his former QBs. Guess he didn't get a RB. I'm not arguing, I don't know much about this Fisch fellah.

  Based on the turnaround in AZ and how surprisingly difficult they were to play this year (they broke Rome’s ribs!), I like this hire. Not as concerned about him leaving is the broader point. If he sucks, we’re stuck for a few years, but like DeBoer, if his QB comes, we probably won’t suck. If he’s good and he leaves, the buyout helps a lot. Of the 3 true outcomes: Sucks, Good/Great and stays, Good/Great and leaves, we’re happy in two and the third could be mitigated by Fafita similar to Penix… And IRREGARDLESS is not a word!!!!

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• GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,507

  January 15

  CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

  AEB said:

  1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.
  
  2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.
  
  The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.
  
  TL;DR - WGAF

  Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.

  @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.

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• TheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,305

  January 15

  AEB said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

  Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.

  So you’re saying he’s DeBoer?

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• Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,828

  January 15

  TheHB said:

  AEB said:

  WilburHooksHands said:

  we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

  Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.

  So you’re saying he’s DeBoer?

  I laffed

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• jecornel Member Posts: 9,727

  January 15

  He will not be here 7 years….no chance

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• backthepack Member Posts: 19,880

  January 15

  jecornel said:

  He will not be here 7 years….no chance

  That's fine.

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