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Thoughts on Fisch & Staying Long

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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,742
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    edited January 15

    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    he was a grad assistant under spurrier and went to school at florida specifically because of that opportunity as i’ve heard it. his roommate is also the current GM of some NFL team, big football guy
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    TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,379
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    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    he was a grad assistant under spurrier and went to school at florida specifically because of that opportunity as i’ve heard it. his roommate is also the current GM of some NFL team, big football guy
    He did graduate from Florida. Class of ‘98
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    UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,108
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    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    he was a grad assistant under spurrier and went to school at florida specifically because of that opportunity as i’ve heard it. his roommate is also the current GM of some NFL team, big football guy
    GM of the Eagles
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    thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,605
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    What’s his buyout?
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    FireTheJanitorFireTheJanitor Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,483
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    thechatch said:

    What’s his buyout?

    Higher than David Shaw’s
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    dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,007
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    thechatch said:

    What’s his buyout?

    Eleventy hundred million dollars.
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    AEBAEB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,960
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    thechatch said:

    What’s his buyout?

    Eleventy hundred million dollars.
    They teach Maff down there?
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,240
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    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    How about the idea that Washington has the qualities to be a destination school so long as the administration continues its newfound commitment to winning and that Seattle doesn't allow the next CHAZ to take root outside of Husky Stadium.

    It seems like we're wringing our hands over so many variables when the guy hasn't even coached a game yet.
    Agree
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    theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,591
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    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    Napiers buyout is huge. Like 30 million huge. Florida is pretty loaded but not aTm loaded. They have a massive commitment to non revenue sports. They compete at a high level in everything. They have dead money wrapped up in other coaches, the buyout for Napier and the buyout for Fisch may not even be doable for a program like Florida. Something is rotten in The Swamp and no one they bring in can overcome it. Mullen, an Urban disciple, got MSU to 11 wins. That's almost impossible. Napier was seen as a can't miss coach. The build he did at Louisiana was impressive and sustained over a three year period. Both of those coaches have failed or are failing spectacularly. I wouldn't touch Florida, its toxic. I wouldn't expect Fisch to move on for any job for at least three or four years unless he gets UW back to the Semi Finals and at that point it's worth the skin.
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    thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,605
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    thechatch said:

    What’s his buyout?

    Higher than David Shaw’s
    Accurate
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    thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,605
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    thechatch said:

    What’s his buyout?

    Eleventy hundred million dollars.
    Inaccurate
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    Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,610
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    AEB said:

    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    How about the idea that Washington has the qualities to be a destination school so long as the administration continues its newfound commitment to winning and that Seattle doesn't allow the next CHAZ to take root outside of Husky Stadium.

    It seems like we're wringing our hands over so many variables when the guy hasn't even coached a game yet.
    @DerekJohnson I agree. My broader point was not to worry about an early departure as the outcomes in many cases skew UWs way favorably (excepting @GrundleStiltzkin point on what if he sucks?).

    I think UW is close to being a destination evidenced by the fact we hired arguably “best available” within 48 hours after losing our coach to the best CF program.

    Seattles got issues, but positives >>>>> negatives.
    Fisch is from New Jersey there’s nothing about Seattle or it’s politics that are going to bother him. lol
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    Napiers buyout is huge. Like 30 million huge. Florida is pretty loaded but not aTm loaded. They have a massive commitment to non revenue sports. They compete at a high level in everything. They have dead money wrapped up in other coaches, the buyout for Napier and the buyout for Fisch may not even be doable for a program like Florida. Something is rotten in The Swamp and no one they bring in can overcome it. Mullen, an Urban disciple, got MSU to 11 wins. That's almost impossible. Napier was seen as a can't miss coach. The build he did at Louisiana was impressive and sustained over a three year period. Both of those coaches have failed or are failing spectacularly. I wouldn't touch Florida, its toxic. I wouldn't expect Fisch to move on for any job for at least three or four years unless he gets UW back to the Semi Finals and at that point it's worth the skin.
    The Florida job will be probably be open before their 11/30/24 game with FSU. They’re not finishing better than 6-6. Whether or not Fisch wants it is the only unknown. Napier is dead HC walking.
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    UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,108
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    Are we sure Fisch really even covets the Florida job?

    It seems like he deliberately went there to try to get on board with Spurrier and work his way up the coaching profession any way he could, not because he has some specific affinity for Florida. He seems like a general ladder climber like DeBoer, not a Florida Guy, per se.

    Ya I'd say he goes to the NFL before Florida if he's successful.
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