Random Thoughts
O-line was probably the biggest disappointment of the game. After a good showing against Texas, they got pushed around most of the night.
Penix was definitely missing some throws. Maybe he was injured but sadly not his best game. (Still love him).
Refs were bad. (Not the reason we lost). I think they tend to not call much in these games and I think Michigan used that as strategy somewhat.
Proud of the defense for stepping up after the first quarter.
Everyone wants us to be TCU. I see most people ranking us 20-25 in early rankings next year.
Overall glad we kept it close most of the game. The game was in reach but we didn't capitalize when we needed to.
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Starting the 3rd quarter with a pick was absolutely ruthless. Couldn’t have imagined that happening.
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Yeah, I like the way the game was refereed. That's the way it should be in championship games. Let players play. The only call that really bugged me was the hold that negated the long completion to Odunze. Yeah, technically, it was a hold, but those were happening all over the field all night and to call it then was a serious hammer blow.
I'm sure Michigan fans could cite a call or two that went UW's way, too.
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Absolute brutal play, that was the "Oh well" moment for me.jecornel said:Starting the 3rd quarter with a pick was absolutely ruthless. Couldn’t have imagined that happening.
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Our newfound media overlord Fox had us #7 preseason. ESPN and CBS had us top 15
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I think next season is going to be somewhat of a temporary step back and we’ll probably win 8-9 games. Really curious to see how much Austin Mack gets to play, hope the coaches let him get his feet more than a little wet because come ‘25 the roster should be built back up and we’ll want him to have had some playing time.
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Its hard to imagine next year not sucking
Deboer has done a really good job at getting the most from the guys he has, he looks like a real coach and MIGHT actually be a legit QB whisperer, but hopefully he now realizes that this isn't Soux Falls or Fresno St. he has to put some energy/focus on getting better players now. He also needs to really think about how to help out his loyal buddies, Morrel and Grubb.
Grubb has had some really strange questionable calling, even if yesterday was mostly fine. Grubb's recruiting, given the perceived success of his offense has been pretty bad... Even more now that UW doesn't really have to compete with Stanford or Cal for "smart" OL/TE recruits.
Morrel obviously needs lots of help... The 1st quarter roll out of our base defense while watching Michigan run for 188 yards was retarded... The defense also very clearly just doesn't have the guys to play at a high level. But he still makes wierd coaching decisions like not playing Bruener against the run, light boxes... UW needs to be transfer raiding the MWC for 1-2 big DL/Edge every year. -
That schedule is 10 wins easyOreDawg said:I think next season is going to be somewhat of a temporary step back and we’ll probably win 8-9 games. Really curious to see how much Austin Mack gets to play, hope the coaches let him get his feet more than a little wet because come ‘25 the roster should be built back up and we’ll want him to have had some playing time.
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The discipline of the defense was terrible in the first quarter. Not spying on McCarthy on a 3rd and long was curious. Basically inviting him to run and. Watching him do it. That scheme should not have been in the call sheet last night. I don't see anything about the defensive staff that would make me feel like they can produce a top tier defense. They're fine, but way behind the offense.Houhusky said:Its hard to imagine next year not sucking
Deboer has done a really good job at getting the most from the guys he has, he looks like a real coach and MIGHT actually be a legit QB whisperer, but hopefully he now realizes that this isn't Soux Falls or Fresno St. he has to put some energy/focus on getting better players now. He also needs to really think about how to help out his loyal buddies, Morrel and Grubb.
Grubb has had some really strange questionable calling, even if yesterday was mostly fine. Grubb's recruiting, given the perceived success of his offense has been pretty bad... Even more now that UW doesn't really have to compete with Stanford or Cal for "smart" OL/TE recruits.
Morrel obviously needs lots of help... The 1st quarter roll out of our base defense while watching Michigan run for 188 yards was retarded... The defense also very clearly just doesn't have the guys to play at a high level. But he still makes wierd coaching decisions like not playing Bruener against the run, light boxes... UW needs to be transfer raiding the MWC for 1-2 big DL/Edge every year.
Unfortunately at the moment recruiting seems to be more about money than relationships. We are behind Oregon and usc out west in that regard and it's not particularly close. -
So we are only losing 2 from @ Oregon @ Iowa @ Penn State home vs Michigan USC UCLA?NookTunnelSyndrome said:
That schedule is 10 wins easyOreDawg said:I think next season is going to be somewhat of a temporary step back and we’ll probably win 8-9 games. Really curious to see how much Austin Mack gets to play, hope the coaches let him get his feet more than a little wet because come ‘25 the roster should be built back up and we’ll want him to have had some playing time.
(I put UCLA here cause we always seem to do dumb things against them)
I can see it happening but we should not assume as much. Won’t be easy. It’s probably the hardest schedule for us in the B1G of the 5 year cycle, unless you view playing Ohio State as significantly tougher than what we have next year. -
Here's a random thought...
UW started classes on Jan 3. Michigan started on Jan 10.
How much does this make a difference? Imagine being on a football team and you don't have to worry about homework and going to class. You can completely 100% focus on the national championship game. Does that make a difference? Should UW adjust it's scheduling? -
None of them were doing any school work, be seriousFenderbender123 said:Here's a random thought...
UW started classes on Jan 3. Michigan started on Jan 10.
How much does this make a difference? Imagine being on a football team and you don't have to worry about homework and going to class. You can completely 100% focus on the national championship game. Does that make a difference? Should UW adjust it's scheduling? -
Yes, UW absolutely should adjust their entire academic calendar so the football team doesn't have to do school during natty runs. I think that goes without saying.Fenderbender123 said:Here's a random thought...
UW started classes on Jan 3. Michigan started on Jan 10.
How much does this make a difference? Imagine being on a football team and you don't have to worry about homework and going to class. You can completely 100% focus on the national championship game. Does that make a difference? Should UW adjust it's scheduling? -
Might be overthinking it. I thought it was surprising they didn’t just go from New Orleans to Houston but don’t think it played a factor. Given how old so many of the UW players are I bet a large portion are graduated or taking minimal classes.Fenderbender123 said:Here's a random thought...
UW started classes on Jan 3. Michigan started on Jan 10.
How much does this make a difference? Imagine being on a football team and you don't have to worry about homework and going to class. You can completely 100% focus on the national championship game. Does that make a difference? Should UW adjust it's scheduling? -
I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent. -
I expect as much, but still a distraction.backthepack said:
None of them were doing any school work, be seriousFenderbender123 said:Here's a random thought...
UW started classes on Jan 3. Michigan started on Jan 10.
How much does this make a difference? Imagine being on a football team and you don't have to worry about homework and going to class. You can completely 100% focus on the national championship game. Does that make a difference? Should UW adjust it's scheduling?
I will hopefully be able to go back and figure out if Michigan flew back home overnight from the Rose Bowl or the day after. We just played "tired" and tired. Yes I know the B1G schedule next year will be similar but regular season you fly in the day before the game and don't have all the media stuff that Natty game requires.
The other part, and I'd be curious what players think, but for big-time bowl games the charter flight will usually be a wide-body with lay flat business class. I've seen that fairly frequently. Google says Michigan flew to Houston in this:U-M flew charter from Detroit Metropolitan Airport on Friday afternoon, and they took to the air in the “Queen of the Skies” — a Boeing 747-400 with a custom interior for luxury travel. The Atlas Air-owned jumbo jet features “an exceptional VIP experience” to its passengers. It’s an upgrade in size — and likely in comfort — over the Boeing 757 used by the program for its regular-season flights earlier in the fall.
The Wolverines have had a busy travel week. They left Pasadena for Ann Arbor in the hours after their Rose Bowl win the night of Monday, Jan. 1.
Alaska pays us a good amount of money I assume to sponsor our stadiums and our players. And we naturally fly them to games, which is fine for the regular season usually. But playoffs, with so much else gong on, spending 5 hours on Tuesday and then 5 hours on Friday crammed into coach seats, that matters to peak performance. Meanwhile Michigan's dudes are sitting in business class and got back a day earlier.
It wouldn't change the result but I think you compound everything crammed in that week and you can see why we weren't very sharp. -
Completely agree. As much as people are taking about other areas not playing well last night the DBs and LBs athleticism cost the game ultimately even though they played pretty after the 1st quarter.Alexis said:I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent.
Jackson, Dixon, Tupitala, Powell, Hampton all had clunky movement that cost them on plays.
I hope Asa returns. He's not ELITE but he raises the floor. Becky London might be the best DB on the field next year. Pay Muhammad. Banks had sizzle and I have hope for him. -
It’s amazing these guys were able to play as well as they did at times.Alexis said:I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent.
3 or 4 really talented guys and a lot of jags. I think they are all tough kids though. -
JFC some of you are really pushing me into making another Asa sucks manifesto gif post that I really dont want to make...Canadawg said:
Completely agree. As much as people are taking about other areas not playing well last night the DBs and LBs athleticism cost the game ultimately even though they played pretty after the 1st quarter.Alexis said:I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent.
Jackson, Dixon, Tupitala, Powell, Hampton all had clunky movement that cost them on plays.
I hope Asa returns. He's not ELITE but he raises the floor. Becky London might be the best DB on the field next year. Pay Muhammad. Banks had sizzle and I have hope for him. -
Canadawg said:
I hope Asa returns. He's not ELITE but he raises the floor. Becky London might be the best DB on the field next year. Pay Muhammad. Banks had sizzle and I have hope for him.Alexis said:I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent.
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Fuck that man. Make it.Houhusky said:
JFC some of you are really pushing me into making another Asa sucks manifesto gif post that I really dont want to make...Canadawg said:
Completely agree. As much as people are taking about other areas not playing well last night the DBs and LBs athleticism cost the game ultimately even though they played pretty after the 1st quarter.Alexis said:I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent.
Jackson, Dixon, Tupitala, Powell, Hampton all had clunky movement that cost them on plays.
I hope Asa returns. He's not ELITE but he raises the floor. Becky London might be the best DB on the field next year. Pay Muhammad. Banks had sizzle and I have hope for him. -
Asa was predictably terrible.
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If I didn’t worry about the first week of classes when I was at UW, I doubt any of the players are.Fenderbender123 said:Here's a random thought...
UW started classes on Jan 3. Michigan started on Jan 10.
How much does this make a difference? Imagine being on a football team and you don't have to worry about homework and going to class. You can completely 100% focus on the national championship game. Does that make a difference? Should UW adjust it's scheduling? -
You can do more with more. Put it in my fucking tombstone.Alexis said:I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent. -
Asa was inexcusably bad
Door. Ass. Out. -
Asa fucking sucks.
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But they have to attend class. When I was in college, we had homework the first week. always.backthepack said:
None of them were doing any school work, be seriousFenderbender123 said:Here's a random thought...
UW started classes on Jan 3. Michigan started on Jan 10.
How much does this make a difference? Imagine being on a football team and you don't have to worry about homework and going to class. You can completely 100% focus on the national championship game. Does that make a difference? Should UW adjust it's scheduling?
Not looking for excuses, but we had so much time off before Texas, and then players had to attend class and do homework during the week leading up to Michigan... And that's after getting used to having all that time off.
I think it matters. Maybe not a lot. But still.... -
First week rarely has much going on. Lot of syllabus review and go to your section for half the period then leave. This is a non-issue.
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Do they have 4 safeties better than him next year? It's not about how good they are it's about who their replacement would be. Ooga booga Asa bad is an old tropeHouhusky said:
JFC some of you are really pushing me into making another Asa sucks manifesto gif post that I really dont want to make...Canadawg said:
Completely agree. As much as people are taking about other areas not playing well last night the DBs and LBs athleticism cost the game ultimately even though they played pretty after the 1st quarter.Alexis said:I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent.
Jackson, Dixon, Tupitala, Powell, Hampton all had clunky movement that cost them on plays.
I hope Asa returns. He's not ELITE but he raises the floor. Becky London might be the best DB on the field next year. Pay Muhammad. Banks had sizzle and I have hope for him. -
I attended almost every class at UW. I didn't take Basket Weaving in the Rain 100 or Sociology 101 though.
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They swung and missed in the portal. He may be the best we have unfortunately.Canadawg said:
Do they have 4 safeties better than him next year? It's not about how good they are it's about who their replacement would be. Ooga booga Asa bad is an old tropeHouhusky said:
JFC some of you are really pushing me into making another Asa sucks manifesto gif post that I really dont want to make...Canadawg said:
Completely agree. As much as people are taking about other areas not playing well last night the DBs and LBs athleticism cost the game ultimately even though they played pretty after the 1st quarter.Alexis said:I’m sure it’s been noticed and mentioned by all, but at the game last night I had a different viewpoint than most other games. (I was up much higher, and was way more sober for some reason).
I knew it was an issue before, but yesterday is was really pounded home how slow our defense is. There is very little high caliber D1 talent anywhere in the D backfield especially.
Watching the CB and safety have an angle on the big runs and not even get a hand on the guy as he cruises by was painful to watch.
Coaching up 3 stars is great. But Deboner really needs to upgrade the raw talent.
Jackson, Dixon, Tupitala, Powell, Hampton all had clunky movement that cost them on plays.
I hope Asa returns. He's not ELITE but he raises the floor. Becky London might be the best DB on the field next year. Pay Muhammad. Banks had sizzle and I have hope for him.
