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The narrative that Lanning cost Oregon the game is wrong. UW was just better.

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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    dnc said:

    FireCohen said:

    We won caz penix is not a lil bitch QB that we are accustomed to having. Grubb did some questionable play calling, but got bailed out by the talent. We should thank Junior Adam for getting them here

    FOH
    @dnc didnt junior recruit the current WR room? or do i have my coaches mixed up
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    FireCohen said:

    dnc said:

    FireCohen said:

    We won caz penix is not a lil bitch QB that we are accustomed to having. Grubb did some questionable play calling, but got bailed out by the talent. We should thank Junior Adam for getting them here

    FOH
    @dnc didnt junior recruit the current WR room? or do i have my coaches mixed up
    Pete recruited Jalen and Rome. Not sure who recruited Polk, might have been Adams

    He didn't coach any of them worth a damn though.
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  • HairyBallsDawg
    HairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,078
    creepycoug said:

    And Penix's interception, as it turned out, meant nothing anyway because Oregon didn't capitalize.

    It isn't just about whether or not Oregon could capitalize, but whether or not we would have scored again and gone up by even more.
    creepycoug said:


    Lastly, I've not read a serious post by anyone suggesting that UW was just lucky.

    The narrative is more out in the national media with the suggestion that Oregon lost because Lanning made some play calling mistakes. It isn't a big narrative on this site, but a couple of posters have fallen for it.

    As to the 2018 game you brought up -- sure -- similar situation in terms of coaching criticism -- but switch that game with this game, and Washington is still up 4-3 on Oregon since the last time the Pac12 sent a school to the playoffs.
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  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,746 Founders Club
    HairyBallsDawg said:

    creepycoug said:

    And Penix's interception, as it turned out, meant nothing anyway because Oregon didn't capitalize.

    It isn't just about whether or not Oregon could capitalize, but whether or not we would have scored again and gone up by even more.
    creepycoug said:


    Lastly, I've not read a serious post by anyone suggesting that UW was just lucky.

    The narrative is more out in the national media with the suggestion that Oregon lost because Lanning made some play calling mistakes. It isn't a big narrative on this site, but a couple of posters have fallen for it.

    As to the 2018 game you brought up -- sure -- similar situation in terms of coaching criticism -- but switch that game with this game, and Washington is still up 4-3 on Oregon since the last time the Pac12 sent a school to the playoffs.
    That was kind of a weird sequence that got forgotten. I mostly forgot about it until rewatching. More cases of UW beating UW. Drive got screwed by a 3rd and 1 with a weird wrong timed snap then the pick with Rome falling.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,275
    TheHB said:

    DerekJohnson said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    I think it's accurate and a gripe that making everything about Lanning making bad calls there and not getting it is distracting from:

    1. The Husky defense doing a great job in tough 3rd and 4th down situations. It's really fucking hard to get modern offenses off the field with losses of down.
    2. The Husky offense and team as a whole making winners win plays

    I remember damn well in 2019 and possibly 2018 Mario going for it in tough 4th downs and it really swinging the game by getting it

    To me the Huskies having a scheme but also kind of having it be backyard our best players will beat your players instead of Oregon's kind of Petersen like dink and dunk ground control ball control shit which doesn't work in tight moments and when you just plain need to score. The Franklin TD and long pass down the field were set up by shit they had to run for 3 quarters.

    I'm kind of tired about the bitching about the Nix sprint out passes. What? You thought he was going to drop back and get the conversions that way? They also tried to run on that third and short where Lanning got the timeout or shit in but the play ran and got fucking blown out. Their short yardage run game was slipping as the game went on. They were also struggling to pass pro.

    Some of you might want to shield your eyes as I'm about to posit a hypothetical...

    But if Oregon runs a draw play on that final fourth down they probably gain 7-15 yards.
    Also, for those bagging on the sprint out playcall, I’m pretty sure Oregon scored on that play earlier in the game. So there was some positive recent history with it.
    No, they didn't. You're talking about the Herbert TD reception. That play was a direct drop back by Nix, who was in the pocket looking in the middle of the field, that wound up being a broken play. He couldn't find anyone and bailed out to the right, and Herbert saw he was in trouble and found a soft spot in a fair amount of space (because there weren't four other Ducks in the same area) on the right side The sprint outs are designed and everyone moves in the same direction at the snap. Different play altogether.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,275
    HairyBallsDawg said:

    creepycoug said:

    And Penix's interception, as it turned out, meant nothing anyway because Oregon didn't capitalize.

    It isn't just about whether or not Oregon could capitalize, but whether or not we would have scored again and gone up by even more.
    creepycoug said:


    Lastly, I've not read a serious post by anyone suggesting that UW was just lucky.

    The narrative is more out in the national media with the suggestion that Oregon lost because Lanning made some play calling mistakes. It isn't a big narrative on this site, but a couple of posters have fallen for it.

    As to the 2018 game you brought up -- sure -- similar situation in terms of coaching criticism -- but switch that game with this game, and Washington is still up 4-3 on Oregon since the last time the Pac12 sent a school to the playoffs.
    Sure enough, but that wasn't the point.
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  • SECDAWG
    SECDAWG Member Posts: 5,020
    Meh. I watched the game as well. Facts are, Oregon outgained WA, outplayed on clock WA and out physicalled WA…none of that matters. Now. The final score is in the books.

    Oregon could have won the game a few times over. But they didn’t. Score was 37-34 WA.

    Bottom line. Will they meet again like Oklahoma and TX? IDK. Haven’t looked it up far as North/South, East/West…but for now, WA won scoreboard and in the drivers seat.

    A lot of games still left to be played.

    I can say this, WA is a better matchup for someone like GA if both get there, Oregon and Nix not so much.

    Running on GA won’t work. Nix scrambling around and trying to make a play, not so much. Penis is far way and better to make that case for the PAC than Nix. It is and has been proven time and time again. Past and present. There is no discussion on this front….

    WA would be way better in a CFP game than OR against the DAWGS . Michigan has no shot. OU and WA is a better comparison or competition than Oregon or Meatchicken.
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