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Supreme Court does something it should have done 40 years ago
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Why are we running cover for this guy? Can't we have a good decision and also not have to twist ourselves into a pretzel about someone in the majority? Both can be possible: he voted the right way, and he benefited from the thing he's striking down. Not a problem for me.hardhat said:
Also, lots of white people also grew up in abject poverty outside of Savanah and had no running water. The whole point of this decision is, or should be, that the physiological fact of your race/ethnicity is not the defining characteristic of who you are. Evidence of overcoming struggle and burden is relevant, and it turns out that white people experience those things as well. GMAFB.
Also, the odds of CT not having benefited from AA are low, and you all know it. Yale LS is a single-digit admit and from an odds standpoint the least likely place you'll get into among all American law schools. Holy Cross isn't exactly WSU either. And they're both private schools and thus pretty expensive. Nobody knows for sure (well, somebody does, but not us), but the odds are heavy that Clarence Thomas had a helping hand along the way due at least in part to his race. And this demonstrates another negative about AA: the loss of the benefit of the doubt. -
The number of things that H says he doesn't support but are bedrock dem issues for dems that he votes for almost would lead you to believe he is lying.RaceBannon said:To review
H is against affirmative action but voted for Hillary who would have nominated judges who would keep it.
I voted for Trump who nominated judges who decided against it.
H voted for Biden who nominated Jackson who basically said
It's unconstitutional but still
It's so unfair to say that H votes like an idiot -
Zaid isn't the type of guy who runs cover for Clarence Thomas. The hatred that Thomas and guys like Thomas Sowell get from some on the left is what he's calling out. It's as if they're 'ungrateful' for the white saviors those same lefties think themselves to be. How dare they?creepycoug said:
Why are we running cover for this guy? Can't we have a good decision and also not have to twist ourselves into a pretzel about someone in the majority. Two things:hardhat said:
Lots of white people grew up in abject poverty outside of Savannah with no running water; and
The odds of AA not having played a role in CT's ascension are pretty low.
The whole point of this decision is, or should be, that physiological fact of your race/ethnicity is not the defining characteristic of who you are. Evidence of overcoming struggle and burden is relevant, and it turns out that white people experience those things as well. GMAFB. Yale LS is a single-digit admit and from an odds standpoint the least likely place you'll get into among all American law schools. Holy Cross isn't exactly WSU either. And they're both private schools and thus pretty expensive. Nobody knows for sure, but the odds are heavy that Clarence Thomas had a helping hand along the way due at least in part to his race. And this demonstrates another negative about AA: the loss of the benefit of the doubt.
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But Sotomayor grew up poor in a housing project in the Bronx, so it's unlikely that these preferences were the defining feature of her academic future.hardhat said:
Or whatever.
You have at least three AA action babies on the SCOTUS. They all had AA help. The odds one didn't are exceedingly low. -
At some point, a person can overcome the stigma of doubt. Thomas clearly has. Kentanji Brown Jackson never will. Neither did Sandra Day O'Connor. In fact, today any degree, regardless of race, from an Ivy League university would leave me with a huge stigma of doubt. In the Transhauser Bush fiasco, the new marketing director has a Wharton MBA and the CEO has a Harvard MBA. Apparently understanding your product and your market was not in the curriculum, like internal controls was missing from the dazzler's mythical MBA program.hardhat said:
Zaid isn't the type of guy who runs cover for Clarence Thomas. The hatred that Thomas and guys like Thomas Sowell get from some on the left is what he's calling out. It's as if they're 'ungrateful' for the white saviors those same lefties think themselves to be. How dare they?creepycoug said:
Why are we running cover for this guy? Can't we have a good decision and also not have to twist ourselves into a pretzel about someone in the majority. Two things:hardhat said:
Lots of white people grew up in abject poverty outside of Savannah with no running water; and
The odds of AA not having played a role in CT's ascension are pretty low.
The whole point of this decision is, or should be, that physiological fact of your race/ethnicity is not the defining characteristic of who you are. Evidence of overcoming struggle and burden is relevant, and it turns out that white people experience those things as well. GMAFB. Yale LS is a single-digit admit and from an odds standpoint the least likely place you'll get into among all American law schools. Holy Cross isn't exactly WSU either. And they're both private schools and thus pretty expensive. Nobody knows for sure, but the odds are heavy that Clarence Thomas had a helping hand along the way due at least in part to his race. And this demonstrates another negative about AA: the loss of the benefit of the doubt. -
AA action babies. Nice.creepycoug said:
But Sotomayor grew up poor in a housing project in the Bronx, so it's unlikely that these preferences were the defining feature of her academic future.hardhat said:
Or whatever.
You have at least three AA action babies on the SCOTUS. They all had AA help. The odds one didn't are exceedingly low.
She's at least famous for thinking there were 100,000 children hospitalized with covid, 'many of them on ventilators'. -
I totally get that and appreciate the point. The implied message of "this is a disaster" is that you, young black man, can't do it on your own without me helping you. It's horrible.hardhat said:
Zaid isn't the type of guy who runs cover for Clarence Thomas. The hatred that Thomas and guys like Thomas Sowell get from some on the left is what he's calling out. It's as if they're 'ungrateful' for the white saviors those same lefties think themselves to be. How dare they?creepycoug said:
Why are we running cover for this guy? Can't we have a good decision and also not have to twist ourselves into a pretzel about someone in the majority. Two things:hardhat said:
Lots of white people grew up in abject poverty outside of Savannah with no running water; and
The odds of AA not having played a role in CT's ascension are pretty low.
The whole point of this decision is, or should be, that physiological fact of your race/ethnicity is not the defining characteristic of who you are. Evidence of overcoming struggle and burden is relevant, and it turns out that white people experience those things as well. GMAFB. Yale LS is a single-digit admit and from an odds standpoint the least likely place you'll get into among all American law schools. Holy Cross isn't exactly WSU either. And they're both private schools and thus pretty expensive. Nobody knows for sure, but the odds are heavy that Clarence Thomas had a helping hand along the way due at least in part to his race. And this demonstrates another negative about AA: the loss of the benefit of the doubt.
But his reasoning was garbage. He grew up poor with no running water; hence AA likely isn't what got him to Yale and the SCOTUS. GMAFB. That's new-level stupid. You can't cherry pick your AA babies and assume the one you like is the one who didn't need it, absent clear and definitive proof to the contrary. For Yale LS, I need to see a top 1% LSAT, and a near perfect GPA in a rigorous UG curriculum. Anything less than that, knowing what I know about AA programs, and I'm right in assuming you were given a helping hand.
Again, mind you, I have no problem with his vote. He's entitled to call the shot as it should be called, regardless of his personal circumstances. And Dyson is an idiot. -
I'm not sure how to react to reasonable, nuanced discussion in the Tug.creepycoug said:
I totally get that and appreciate the point. The implied message of "this is a disaster" is that you, young black man, can't do it on your own without me helping you. It's horrible.hardhat said:
Zaid isn't the type of guy who runs cover for Clarence Thomas. The hatred that Thomas and guys like Thomas Sowell get from some on the left is what he's calling out. It's as if they're 'ungrateful' for the white saviors those same lefties think themselves to be. How dare they?creepycoug said:
Why are we running cover for this guy? Can't we have a good decision and also not have to twist ourselves into a pretzel about someone in the majority. Two things:hardhat said:
Lots of white people grew up in abject poverty outside of Savannah with no running water; and
The odds of AA not having played a role in CT's ascension are pretty low.
The whole point of this decision is, or should be, that physiological fact of your race/ethnicity is not the defining characteristic of who you are. Evidence of overcoming struggle and burden is relevant, and it turns out that white people experience those things as well. GMAFB. Yale LS is a single-digit admit and from an odds standpoint the least likely place you'll get into among all American law schools. Holy Cross isn't exactly WSU either. And they're both private schools and thus pretty expensive. Nobody knows for sure, but the odds are heavy that Clarence Thomas had a helping hand along the way due at least in part to his race. And this demonstrates another negative about AA: the loss of the benefit of the doubt.
But his reasoning was garbage. He grew up poor with no running water; hence AA likely isn't what got him to Yale and the SCOTUS. GMAFB. That's new-level stupid. You can't cherry pick your AA babies and assume the one you like is the one who didn't need it, absent clear and definitive proof to the contrary. For Yale LS, I need to see a top 1% LSAT, and a near perfect GPA in a rigorous UG curriculum. Anything less than that, knowing what I know about AA programs, and I'm right in assuming you were given a helping hand.
Again, mind you, I have no problem with his vote. He's entitled to call the shot as it should be called, regardless of his personal circumstances. And Dyson is an idiot. -
Dazzler lie? Unheard of.WestlinnDuck said:
The number of things that H says he doesn't support but are bedrock dem issues for dems that he votes for almost would lead you to believe he is lying.RaceBannon said:To review
H is against affirmative action but voted for Hillary who would have nominated judges who would keep it.
I voted for Trump who nominated judges who decided against it.
H voted for Biden who nominated Jackson who basically said
It's unconstitutional but still
It's so unfair to say that H votes like an idiot -
Easy, you just tell him to Fuck off.hardhat said:
I'm not sure how to react to reasonable, nuanced discussion in the Tug.creepycoug said:
I totally get that and appreciate the point. The implied message of "this is a disaster" is that you, young black man, can't do it on your own without me helping you. It's horrible.hardhat said:
Zaid isn't the type of guy who runs cover for Clarence Thomas. The hatred that Thomas and guys like Thomas Sowell get from some on the left is what he's calling out. It's as if they're 'ungrateful' for the white saviors those same lefties think themselves to be. How dare they?creepycoug said:
Why are we running cover for this guy? Can't we have a good decision and also not have to twist ourselves into a pretzel about someone in the majority. Two things:hardhat said:
Lots of white people grew up in abject poverty outside of Savannah with no running water; and
The odds of AA not having played a role in CT's ascension are pretty low.
The whole point of this decision is, or should be, that physiological fact of your race/ethnicity is not the defining characteristic of who you are. Evidence of overcoming struggle and burden is relevant, and it turns out that white people experience those things as well. GMAFB. Yale LS is a single-digit admit and from an odds standpoint the least likely place you'll get into among all American law schools. Holy Cross isn't exactly WSU either. And they're both private schools and thus pretty expensive. Nobody knows for sure, but the odds are heavy that Clarence Thomas had a helping hand along the way due at least in part to his race. And this demonstrates another negative about AA: the loss of the benefit of the doubt.
But his reasoning was garbage. He grew up poor with no running water; hence AA likely isn't what got him to Yale and the SCOTUS. GMAFB. That's new-level stupid. You can't cherry pick your AA babies and assume the one you like is the one who didn't need it, absent clear and definitive proof to the contrary. For Yale LS, I need to see a top 1% LSAT, and a near perfect GPA in a rigorous UG curriculum. Anything less than that, knowing what I know about AA programs, and I'm right in assuming you were given a helping hand.
Again, mind you, I have no problem with his vote. He's entitled to call the shot as it should be called, regardless of his personal circumstances. And Dyson is an idiot.
