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If you don’t think AI will kill us all

jecornel
jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
edited May 2023 in Tug Tavern
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    Well, we had a good run.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,170 Standard Supporter
    Bomb Silicon Valley.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,164
    I'm not an AI doomer

    If we can't create fail safes for the AI after creating AI, we deserve to be killed
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,164

    I'm nor a Cortez doomer

    If the Aztecs can't create fail safes they deserve to have to swim across the border

    ...what?

  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,600

    I'm not an AI doomer

    If we can't create fail safes for the AI after creating AI, we deserve to be killed

    https://youtu.be/-Bh3brkeCl0
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,164
    Blueduck said:

    I'm not an AI doomer

    If we can't create fail safes for the AI after creating AI, we deserve to be killed

    https://youtu.be/-Bh3brkeCl0
    Is this before or after we get nuked?

    Better hide in the bunkers!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,683 Standard Supporter

    Blueduck said:

    I'm not an AI doomer

    If we can't create fail safes for the AI after creating AI, we deserve to be killed

    https://youtu.be/-Bh3brkeCl0
    Is this before or after we get nuked?

    Better hide in the bunkers!
    You need to volunteer and suit up and save Ukraine! Put your life and money out there and stop asking everyone else to give.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,164
    Sledog said:

    Blueduck said:

    I'm not an AI doomer

    If we can't create fail safes for the AI after creating AI, we deserve to be killed

    https://youtu.be/-Bh3brkeCl0
    Is this before or after we get nuked?

    Better hide in the bunkers!
    You need to volunteer and suit up and save Ukraine! Put your life and money out there and stop asking everyone else to give.
    No. I'll just pay my 2 dollars in taxes that go towards giving them shit.

    Htfh
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,683 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Blueduck said:

    I'm not an AI doomer

    If we can't create fail safes for the AI after creating AI, we deserve to be killed

    https://youtu.be/-Bh3brkeCl0
    Is this before or after we get nuked?

    Better hide in the bunkers!
    You need to volunteer and suit up and save Ukraine! Put your life and money out there and stop asking everyone else to give.
    No. I'll just pay my 2 dollars in taxes that go towards giving them shit.

    Htfh
    Yeah brave one huh? It's your big belief go joint the Azov battalion they'll like you!
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    They will have to dumb down AI to replace lawyers

    What benefits to humans does replacing everyone bring?

    Isn't the logical step to kill all the unnecessary people? Are any people necessary?
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,331 Founders Club
    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    You realize it can write code, right? Run of the mill SDEs go first
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    edited May 2023

    They will have to dumb down AI to replace lawyers

    What benefits to humans does replacing everyone bring?

    Isn't the logical step to kill all the unnecessary people? Are any people necessary?

    There's almost no benefit to humans.

    You can make a lot of stuff efficient (where humans use it to make their jobs easier and it's beneficial to their customers), but then there's nothing to stop that next step.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,164
    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    haie said:

    They will have to dumb down AI to replace lawyers

    What benefits to humans does replacing everyone bring?

    Isn't the logical step to kill all the unnecessary people? Are any people necessary?

    There's almost no benefit to humans.

    You can make a lot of stuff efficient (where humans use it to make their jobs easier and it's beneficial to their customers), but then there's nothing to stop that next step.
    Most people would say stop now

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    edited May 2023

    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip

    Remind me what a DUI lawyer actually does. Yeah... we're talking about 5 years here.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club

    haie said:

    They will have to dumb down AI to replace lawyers

    What benefits to humans does replacing everyone bring?

    Isn't the logical step to kill all the unnecessary people? Are any people necessary?

    There's almost no benefit to humans.

    You can make a lot of stuff efficient (where humans use it to make their jobs easier and it's beneficial to their customers), but then there's nothing to stop that next step.
    All people would say stop now

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    Sources said:

    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    You realize it can write code, right? Run of the mill SDEs go first
    Yeah, I realize that. Has nothing to do with me. Was this supposed to be some kind of sick burn?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,164
    haie said:

    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip

    Remind me what a DUI lawyer actually does. Yeah... we're talking about 5 years here.
    Because all lawyers are DUI lawyers

    Do you understand what "rapport" is?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club

    haie said:

    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip

    Remind me what a DUI lawyer actually does. Yeah... we're talking about 5 years here.
    Because all lawyers are DUI lawyers

    Do you understand what "rapport" is?
    Combines hip hop music with a hardware device available to connect to other peripherals?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,164
    haie said:

    haie said:

    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip

    Remind me what a DUI lawyer actually does. Yeah... we're talking about 5 years here.
    Because all lawyers are DUI lawyers

    Do you understand what "rapport" is?
    Combines hip hop music with a hardware device available to connect to other peripherals?
    People like dealing with people. Not machines

    No one cares about the Wendy's drivers attendent being a robot.

    For professional services roles, people care.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027
    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    Low level repetitive processes will go first. Paralegal stuff.

    Same will be true in accounting. Bookkeepers will go bye bye.

    The 5 year window is about right. It won’t take 10 years. The pace at which things are moving is crazy.

    In things like legal and finance, higher level professionals will use AI as a supplement to their work. Those that don’t will get toasted.




  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club

    haie said:

    haie said:

    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip

    Remind me what a DUI lawyer actually does. Yeah... we're talking about 5 years here.
    Because all lawyers are DUI lawyers

    Do you understand what "rapport" is?
    Combines hip hop music with a hardware device available to connect to other peripherals?
    People like dealing with people. Not machines

    No one cares about the Wendy's drivers attendent being a robot.

    For professional services roles, people care.

    Depends on the industry but I get your point.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club

    haie said:

    It's coming for every white collar job that is not related to tech.

    Lawyers, Loan officers, etc are fucked. Within a decade if not 5 years.

    Low level repetitive processes will go first. Paralegal stuff.

    Same will be true in accounting. Bookkeepers will go bye bye.

    The 5 year window is about right. It won’t take 10 years. The pace at which things are moving is crazy.

    In things like legal and finance, higher level professionals will use AI as a supplement to their work. Those that don’t will get toasted.




    Yeah my previous comment was a bit hyperbolic.

    This will just further emphasize the need to solve problems, fast, and the turn key positions in most fields will be what is replaced.

    Many people will love the tools long term.

    Still something that society will need to deal with, in one form or another.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter

    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip

    Nope. Basic research, wills and trusts, corporate and business org docs, writing an appellate brief, filing a motion in most cases are pretty basic and repetitive. Please write a preliminary injunction to be filed in Washington federal district court to halt the Washington new anti-gun legislation. You will still need lawyers to supervise, organize, review and argue but a lot of paralegals will be toast along with rank and file attorneys who were doing the above mentioned work.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,595 Standard Supporter
    If you replace 40% of jobs, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,164

    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip

    Nope. Basic research, wills and trusts, corporate and business org docs, writing an appellate brief, filing a motion in most cases are pretty basic and repetitive. Please write a preliminary injunction to be filed in Washington federal district court to halt the Washington new anti-gun legislation. You will still need lawyers to supervise, organize, review and argue but a lot of paralegals will be toast along with rank and file attorneys who were doing the above mentioned work.
    No one wants to do business with an AI

    This is the part you gloss over.

    Sure, paralegals could get replaced. Lawyers arent.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter

    AI has a long way to go before it can be a fucking lawyer. Get a grip

    Nope. Basic research, wills and trusts, corporate and business org docs, writing an appellate brief, filing a motion in most cases are pretty basic and repetitive. Please write a preliminary injunction to be filed in Washington federal district court to halt the Washington new anti-gun legislation. You will still need lawyers to supervise, organize, review and argue but a lot of paralegals will be toast along with rank and file attorneys who were doing the above mentioned work.
    No one wants to do business with an AI

    This is the part you gloss over.

    Sure, paralegals could get replaced. Lawyers arent.
    Lot's of lawyers are involved in rote business. You should get out more.