Can we just broom this fuck?
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I bet he ends up an All American at Gonzaga. -
Move it to the Roster Genocide thread for fucks sakehuskyhooligan said:
I bet he ends up an All American at Gonzaga. -
Here's the thing, which I know will lead to torches: I don't know why any elite recruit would want to play for Washington in the first place. I mean that sincerely and I have no axe to grind because I legitimately only like programs that are playing Gonzaga, so I basically DNGAF about any one team. At all. There is the fact that hoops talent is the one area where Seattle generates, but even for the local kids, why in the fuck would you want to play here? The tradition is next to nothing. The long-term history of the program is generally underwhelming and the last two coaches have broken the world record for doing less with more. Add to that that Washington is first, middle and last, a football school to its core. Why does anyone elite want to play here to begin with? When Quin Snyder left to play for Duke back in the day, I was like, "duh, no shit." When W has lost local kids to U Conn or Furd, I'm like, sure, why not?
It's amazing the talent that has run through a program that can't get out of its own way and STILL they are embarrassingly bad. That team that went down to the Pac Tourney and got absolutely throttled by Oregon? WTF was that? Why would any kid see that product and say, "Yeah, no thanks Duke." Or a bunch of other schools for that matter. -
Pretty much agree. UW should/could still be a tournament team almost every year with the financial resources, but I'm talking about a 6 or 7 seed.creepycoug said:Here's the thing, which I know will lead to torches: I don't know why any elite recruit would want to play for Washington in the first place. I mean that sincerely and I have no axe to grind because I legitimately only like programs that are playing Gonzaga, so I basically DNGAF about any one team. At all. There is the fact that hoops talent is the one area where Seattle generates, but even for the local kids, why in the fuck would you want to play here? The tradition is next to nothing. The long-term history of the program is generally underwhelming and the last two coaches have broken the world record for doing less with more. Add to that that Washington is first, middle and last, a football school to its core. Why does anyone elite want to play here to begin with? When Quin Snyder left to play for Duke back in the day, I was like, "duh, no shit." When W has lost local kids to U Conn or Furd, I'm like, sure, why not?
It's amazing the talent that has run through a program that can't get out of its own way and STILL they are embarrassingly bad. That team that went down to the Pac Tourney and got absolutely throttled by Oregon? WTF was that? Why would any kid see that product and say, "Yeah, no thanks Duke." Or a bunch of other schools for that matter. -
Even with shitty Hopkins it looks like UW will have a top backcourt in the conference next year.
UCLA leaving, Arizona is soft, Oregon has problems, Utah and Colorado are shit whitey teams, etc.
They don't have the will as a school with no football tean like Gonzaga, but there's no reason they can't be great.
They were a top 5 recruiter, among Kansas and North Carolina, for awhile under Romar. -
Wrong.haie said:Even with shitty Hopkins it looks like UW will have a top backcourt in the conference next year.
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creepycoug said:
Here's the thing, which I know will lead to torches: I don't know why any elite recruit would want to play for Washington in the first place. I mean that sincerely and I have no axe to grind because I legitimately only like programs that are playing Gonzaga, so I basically DNGAF about any one team. At all. There is the fact that hoops talent is the one area where Seattle generates, but even for the local kids, why in the fuck would you want to play here? The tradition is next to nothing. The long-term history of the program is generally underwhelming and the last two coaches have broken the world record for doing less with more. Add to that that Washington is first, middle and last, a football school to its core. Why does anyone elite want to play here to begin with? When Quin Snyder left to play for Duke back in the day, I was like, "duh, no shit." When W has lost local kids to U Conn or Furd, I'm like, sure, why not?
It's amazing the talent that has run through a program that can't get out of its own way and STILL they are embarrassingly bad. That team that went down to the Pac Tourney and got absolutely throttled by Oregon? WTF was that? Why would any kid see that product and say, "Yeah, no thanks Duke." Or a bunch of other schools for that matter.
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Lolhaie said:Even with shitty Hopkins it looks like UW will have a top backcourt in the conference next year.
UCLA leaving, Arizona is soft, Oregon has problems, Utah and Colorado are shit whitey teams, etc.
They don't have the will as a school with no football tean like Gonzaga, but there's no reason they can't be great.
They were a top 5 recruiter, among Kansas and North Carolina, for awhile under Romar. -
Top 5 recruiting may be a stretch, but with all the local talent, not having someone who can recruit is a literal embarrassment to the program. The one major advantage we have is local talent. We also have a city who would happily support a good product, they just haven't seen in in 5+ years. It was only a few short years ago(well maybe like 8) when we had one of the scariest places to play in the country.haie said:Even with shitty Hopkins it looks like UW will have a top backcourt in the conference next year.
UCLA leaving, Arizona is soft, Oregon has problems, Utah and Colorado are shit whitey teams, etc.
They don't have the will as a school with no football tean like Gonzaga, but there's no reason they can't be great.
They were a top 5 recruiter, among Kansas and North Carolina, for awhile under Romar.
The other piece of this puzzle is that local recruits don't want to play Hops boring ass offense and defense scheme. You take a city with elite high tempo ballers in high school and ask them to come here to play boring zone and vanilla offense? How easy is it for any opposing coach to walk in and sell a kid on the local team doesn't play a good style and they haven't been successful for almost a decade.
There were so many things wrong with the hop hire. Jen basically put a dagger in the neck of the program when she hired an assistant 3500 miles away from his recruiting ties. This program specifically needed to hire an up and coming coach who may connect with the local players. We have the ability to get back to top 10ish classes if they make the right hire next year (obviously not holding my breath).
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I don't want to act like Keyon Menifield is Brandon Roy, however one of the many things lacking from the team this year was spark and heart. Usually you expect a coach to instill some of that in their players, but some guys just inspire those on the court with their play. To have a player like Keyon look at the writing on the wall (after we rehired an awful coach) it just reiterates the players are talking about what a dumpster fire it really is at UW. I don't blame Keyon at all. In fact, I'm shocked he even considered coming back to begin with.
That being said, don't be shocked to see another couple see this type of player leaving and realize they are looking at a 5-10 win season. If you could get to St Marys or a good Mountain west school why not transfer? UW has .0000001% chance of making tourney next year and there is no lock that Jen fires Hop after next year either.
I still don't buy that TiTS couldn't find the money to fire Hop. She just is lazy and doesn't want to have to put her hand out to boosters about her mistake with Hop. She would have to admit what a complete shitshow she created. There are plenty of rich guys who love bball and would pay for a viable product again. The biggest key to keeping their checkbooks in their pockets is fear she's the person hiring the next guy.
