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Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.46XiJCAB said:
Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.PostGameOrangeSlices said:46XiJCAB said:PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
You are retarded
You are what is called a "useful idiot" -
Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.46XiJCAB said:
Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.PostGameOrangeSlices said:46XiJCAB said:PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
You are retarded
You are what is called a "useful idiot" -
For their independence from Russia.46XiJCAB said:
Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.46XiJCAB said:
Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.PostGameOrangeSlices said:46XiJCAB said:PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
You are retarded
You are what is called a "useful idiot"
Why does every country hate Russia?
Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?
Who invaded who?
All questions with answers that elude you -
Are you taking a selfie stick when you go off to fight the big bad Red Army?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For their independence from Russia.46XiJCAB said:
Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.46XiJCAB said:
Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.PostGameOrangeSlices said:46XiJCAB said:PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
You are retarded
You are what is called a "useful idiot"
Why does every country hate Russia?
Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?
Who invaded who?
All questions with answers that elude you
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About what I expectedPurpleThrobber said:
Are you taking a selfie stick when you go off to fight the big bad Red Army?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For their independence from Russia.46XiJCAB said:
Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.46XiJCAB said:
Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.PostGameOrangeSlices said:46XiJCAB said:PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
You are retarded
You are what is called a "useful idiot"
Why does every country hate Russia?
Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?
Who invaded who?
All questions with answers that elude you
All questions with answers that elude you -
Here's a question that when posed to you is like sunlight to a vampire. Why was Ukraine at the negotiating table last year? My guess, to continue their independence from Russia. You should have stopped there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For their independence from Russia.46XiJCAB said:
Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.46XiJCAB said:
Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.PostGameOrangeSlices said:46XiJCAB said:PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
You are retarded
You are what is called a "useful idiot"
Why does every country hate Russia?
Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?
Who invaded who?
All questions with answers that elude you -
Ukraine and Russia have been off and on negotiating since 2014.46XiJCAB said:
Here's a question that when posed to you is like sunlight to a vampire. Why was Ukraine at the negotiating table last year? My guess, to continue their independence from Russia. You should have stopped there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For their independence from Russia.46XiJCAB said:
Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.46XiJCAB said:
Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.PostGameOrangeSlices said:46XiJCAB said:PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
You are retarded
You are what is called a "useful idiot"
Why does every country hate Russia?
Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?
Who invaded who?
All questions with answers that elude you
HTH -
Well, are you?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
About what I expectedPurpleThrobber said:
Are you taking a selfie stick when you go off to fight the big bad Red Army?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For their independence from Russia.46XiJCAB said:
Better they continue to fight an unwinnable war for us, lose 1000's upon 1000's, plus over 10 Million refugees, see their country destroyed and for what? Why were they negotiating in the first place? They were "winning." Maybe they just needed to listen to you. You calling anyone a "useful idiot" is PRICELESS!PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Ukraine doesn't need to revoke NATO aspirations. Russia could BE in NATO if it wanted to.46XiJCAB said:
Gawd you're fucking thick. In 2022 Russia and Ukraine will working on a settlement that included Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO aspirations. Then Boris. But do go on.PostGameOrangeSlices said:46XiJCAB said:PGOS can continue to believe that Ukraine is going to push Russian troops back to Russia. It's a fantasy but nothing anyone poasts here will deter him from believing that. I'll continue to read and listen to people with rational takes on what's happening on the front and the likely outcome.
You are retarded
You are what is called a "useful idiot"
Why does every country hate Russia?
Why are thousands of thousands dying to fight Russia?
Who invaded who?
All questions with answers that elude you
All questions with answers that elude you
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In other words you have no answer.46XiJCAB said:
That's not an answer to my question.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
Ukraine was at the peace table with 15 points being hashed out for peace to happen.
So why did NATO keep dangling membership to Ukraine?
And why didn't Boris want peace instead of more War.
Use your words big boy.
It's NATO's fault Russia invaded potd.
You guysm can keep saying it, it still doesn't make it true. -
Why did Russia invade then?UW_Doog_Bot said:
In other words you have no answer.46XiJCAB said:
That's not an answer to my question.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
Ukraine was at the peace table with 15 points being hashed out for peace to happen.
So why did NATO keep dangling membership to Ukraine?
And why didn't Boris want peace instead of more War.
Use your words big boy.
It's NATO's fault Russia invaded potd.
You guysm can keep saying it, it still doesn't make it true.
Judges will not accept putting the band back together or domino theory.
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So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure. -
Russia will just use it to regroup and prep for the next invasion.Goduckies said:
What's wrong with a negotiated end at this point?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Like they did already despite all the blaming NATO for every Russian advance. -
Tell me why Russia has a right to dictate sovereign countries alliances under the threat of invasion. Go on, try it without going to the what about the US mattress.PurpleThrobber said:
Why did Russia invade then?UW_Doog_Bot said:
In other words you have no answer.46XiJCAB said:
That's not an answer to my question.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
Ukraine was at the peace table with 15 points being hashed out for peace to happen.
So why did NATO keep dangling membership to Ukraine?
And why didn't Boris want peace instead of more War.
Use your words big boy.
It's NATO's fault Russia invaded potd.
You guysm can keep saying it, it still doesn't make it true.
Judges will not accept putting the band back together or domino theory.
Also, none of you seem to be able to answer why these countries don't want to join CSTO and have such an interest in NATO. It's a real head scratcher.
Mind you, they have borders with other NATO members.
Russia has a right to all lands adjacent to Russia!
Ffs you guys don't even make 50 page threads about US border security.
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Pssssst,Blueduck said:
Whatever you do..
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
UN 3rd party found 7 deaths from mines/shelling per year in the region on average from 2014-2020.
Good thing Russia invaded to save all those people in the Donbass!
As mentioned elsewhere, maybe you've Googled back to 2014. I've been following this conflict since the Orange revolution. Go Google that.
You assume too much about what I do or do not know about Ukraine.
My family adopted 2 little girls from an orphanage in Ukraine before the "Orange"
We have followed closely and do not take the word of the MSM Media or the UN propaganda.
There is more going on than what you have been manipulated into believing.
Im sure there is nothing I can say to make you see the real story...,and you will probably have something else you think you can point too to win this discussion.... but the truth is going to come out and all those people waving their little yellow and blue flags aren't going to like it.
@Sources say I'm wrong but can't say who. Got it.
Such a massive Russian genocide that the number of Russian speakers increased over that period. -
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
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Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic -
Ok, Aspie.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
-
You told us that we have a moral obligation to avoid USSR 2.0. If Russia can't roll over the Ukraine, it poses no threat to the rest of Europe. So, Russia is only four million soldiers short of the USSR 1.0. Not only do we not have a moral obligation, we don't receive anything from our involvement except the risk of a nuclear exchange and certainly no economic benefit in spite of your mythical protestations about "selling" weapons to a party that can't repay us. Playing Team America, World Police has made what difference in the world since 1953?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
The one thing that would substantially help they US economy and put a huge economic dent in the Russian war machine would be to turn on the Trump oil and gas machine. But that doesn't do spit for the MIC. China is the real world problem and we have just rolled over for them. -
@UW_Doog_Bot is quite capable of responding, by the way.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
Putin bad/Zelensky good if you need a pacifier. -
Autistic and can't help yourselfPurpleThrobber said:
Ok, Aspie.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
Putin is evil. Go ahead and say it. -
Putin evil/Zelensky evil.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Autistic and can't help yourselfPurpleThrobber said:
Ok, Aspie.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
Putin is evil. Go ahead and say it.
Feel better now, Aspie?
-
Zelenksy is more neutral, autist.PurpleThrobber said:
Putin evil/Zelensky evil.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Autistic and can't help yourselfPurpleThrobber said:
Ok, Aspie.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
Putin is evil. Go ahead and say it.
Feel better now, Aspie?
Tough to paint him as evil. -
Not really.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Zelenksy is more neutral, autist.PurpleThrobber said:
Putin evil/Zelensky evil.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Autistic and can't help yourselfPurpleThrobber said:
Ok, Aspie.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
Putin is evil. Go ahead and say it.
Feel better now, Aspie?
Tough to paint him as evil.
Keep trying, Checkers.
-
Great content as always. Christ.PurpleThrobber said:
Not really.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Zelenksy is more neutral, autist.PurpleThrobber said:
Putin evil/Zelensky evil.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Autistic and can't help yourselfPurpleThrobber said:
Ok, Aspie.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
Putin is evil. Go ahead and say it.
Feel better now, Aspie?
Tough to paint him as evil.
Keep trying, Checkers. -
It is, actually.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Great content as always. Christ.PurpleThrobber said:
Not really.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Zelenksy is more neutral, autist.PurpleThrobber said:
Putin evil/Zelensky evil.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Autistic and can't help yourselfPurpleThrobber said:
Ok, Aspie.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Your biggest fallacy is you dont know what the fuck you are talking about. Like, not even slightly.PurpleThrobber said:
Your fallacy is that I believe Russia has a 'right' to invade anybody.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So only about 100 years of whataboutism needed.PurpleThrobber said:
I"m older than google history knowledge.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!PurpleThrobber said:
I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Didn't live it like @RaceBannon but know enough about the Zimmermann Telegram to know that foreign alliances with Mexico are a thing.
And let's not ignore Chinese current interests in Central and South America which may or may not be benign.
The US would be reacting exactly the same as Putin is if China started dropping bases in Colombia, Ecuador and Nicaragua. Though with the current clown-in-chief, dumbass might think that cause for an ice cream break.
But but DEMOCRACY!
And last I checked the US didn't invade Mexico after the Zimmermann Telegram.
I suppose with your logic Russia has the right to hit NATO if it invades another country. We will wait for that I suppose.
In the meantime Russia has about 6 previous Soviet republics its invaded. Totally unrelated in your mind I'm sure.
Your other fallacy is that NATO is morally or contractually bound to defend Ukraine.
The biggest fallacy is that the military industrial complex and corrupt grifter politicians are leaders.
H to the TH
However, you give none answers with an edge to them like you are actually the smart one here.
You never fucking say anything. You deflect with this shit or "go fight in Ukraine"
You are pathetic
Putin is evil. Go ahead and say it.
Feel better now, Aspie?
Tough to paint him as evil.
Keep trying, Checkers.
-
I don't understand why you believe an America first position is somehow support for Russia. I asked PGOS the same question and received no response. Please show 1 just 1 staement in more than 50 pages of a SINGLE position of Russian support. You have a worldview which says fight Russia and there is no room for any alternative. There is but it won't stop you from accusing your opposition of sucking Putin's cock. Unbelievable but then again I saw 5 people wearing masks in their cars alone on I-5 this morning.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Russia is 100% intent on the downfall of the US and the system that enabled us to become #1. They've been doing everything they can to aid China in their quest to create a "multipolar" world devoid of a superpower aka The US. They literally state as much.RaceBannon said:
Not aimed at youUW_Doog_Bot said:
Lol never once said anything remotely to this and 100% Zelensky can fuck the fuck off with this shit.RaceBannon said:
I get your argument
Just don't agree
In a vacuum sure fuck Russia
But it's not a vacuum
America first
It's cute people in here think they don't have a problem with Russians. Russians have a problem with us. Reminds me of RIP @CirrhosisDawg trying to apologize for ChYnA. Complete with citing sources being paid and bought for.
Ukraine ain't my friend, but I'll gladly hand them the brass knuckles to go fight the other gang in my neighborhood...even if they get shot for it.
Tldr it serves US interests to watch Russia go down a peg or three on the international stage.
Anywho, @RaceBannon we can disagree. Some retards in here ain't cut out for the higher level realpolitik discussion board. -
America can give a few billions out of an outrageous DOD budget to Ukraine, especially when it's preventing Russia from USSR 2.0 aspirationsRoadTrip said:
I don't understand why you believe an America first position is somehow support for Russia. I asked PGOS the same question and received no response. Please show 1 just 1 staement in more than 50 pages of a SINGLE position of Russian support. You have a worldview which says fight Russia and there is no room for any alternative. There is but it won't stop you from accusing your opposition of sucking Putin's cock. Unbelievable but then again I saw 5 people wearing masks in their cars alone on I-5 this morning.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Russia is 100% intent on the downfall of the US and the system that enabled us to become #1. They've been doing everything they can to aid China in their quest to create a "multipolar" world devoid of a superpower aka The US. They literally state as much.RaceBannon said:
Not aimed at youUW_Doog_Bot said:
Lol never once said anything remotely to this and 100% Zelensky can fuck the fuck off with this shit.RaceBannon said:
I get your argument
Just don't agree
In a vacuum sure fuck Russia
But it's not a vacuum
America first
It's cute people in here think they don't have a problem with Russians. Russians have a problem with us. Reminds me of RIP @CirrhosisDawg trying to apologize for ChYnA. Complete with citing sources being paid and bought for.
Ukraine ain't my friend, but I'll gladly hand them the brass knuckles to go fight the other gang in my neighborhood...even if they get shot for it.
Tldr it serves US interests to watch Russia go down a peg or three on the international stage.
Anywho, @RaceBannon we can disagree. Some retards in here ain't cut out for the higher level realpolitik discussion board.
Additionally, it has the added benefit of showing the world that 80s American tech is better than what Russia can field in 2023 (for the most part).
America has a lot of domestic problems, of which this is a sideshow in comparison to.
It's a win/win situation in many ways for America to supply Ukraine here.
-
Raise your hand if you...
A, have heard of the Smith/Mundt act
B read it
C understand what it means.
UN 3rd party found 7 deaths from mines/shelling per year in the region on average from 2014-2020.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Pssssst,Blueduck said:
Whatever you do..
Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.
Don't mention that part!
Good thing Russia invaded to save all those people in the Donbass!
As mentioned elsewhere, maybe you've Googled back to 2014. I've been following this conflict since the Orange revolution. Go Google that.
You assume too much about what I do or do not know about Ukraine.
My family adopted 2 little girls from an orphanage in Ukraine before the "Orange"
We have followed closely and do not take the word of the MSM Media or the UN propaganda.
There is more going on than what you have been manipulated into believing.
Im sure there is nothing I can say to make you see the real story...,and you will probably have something else you think you can point too to win this discussion.... but the truth is going to come out and all those people waving their little yellow and blue flags aren't going to like it.
@Sources say I'm wrong but can't say who. Got it.
Such a massive Russian genocide that the number of Russian speakers increased over that period.
Is this the lamest challenge to provide sources ever?
I'm not going to debate my first hand knowledge and experience with you and I already conceded there is nothing I can say to open your eyes.
You have already decided on what information you will accept as legitimate and rubbish.
63 pages isn't going to sway you into the light so don't come at me with your condecention.
If you want to have a discussion with me you can check your bullshit at the door.
Otherwise enjoy your bliss and piss off replying to my posts, and that goes the same for the orange sherbet boy and his "horseshit" replies.
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Why must the US be (not support but be) NATO? So your earlier position NATO could wipe them out in 3 days really meant the United States with NATO hiding and issuing IOUs could wipe Russia out in 3 days? Hyperbole? Surely you understand this isn't remotely possible right?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
You said earlier that NATO could wipe them out in 3 days if they actually wanted to. Assuming that is true, then we really have nothing to worry about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
It would involve massive casualties for the US and NATO countries.
No one wants that.
And, it might lead to nukes. -
??RoadTrip said:
Why must the US be (not support but be) NATO? So your earlier position NATO could wipe them out in 3 days really meant the United States with NATO hiding and issuing IOUs could wipe Russia out in 3 days? Hyperbole? Surely you understand this isn't remotely possible right?PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
You said earlier that NATO could wipe them out in 3 days if they actually wanted to. Assuming that is true, then we really have nothing to worry about.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
It would involve massive casualties for the US and NATO countries.
No one wants that.
And, it might lead to nukes.
You think in an all out blitz NATO wouldnt have blown the fuck out of the Russian military on every front?
The US could do it by itself.
F22s, F35s, and cruise missles would rain hell on Russia that this world has never seen.
The US is without peer and it isnt close. Then you throw in the UK, France, Poland, Turkey, Italy, Germany, etc. etc....
No one wants to invade Russia itself and claim a bunch of swampland.
