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Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?

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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam
    Goduckies said:

    Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...

    https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,304 Standard Supporter

    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    Germany in 1939 is not Russia in 2023. If you leftards ever took some history classes you would know one is not like the other. And Russia in 2023 is not the Soviet Union of 1970. Estimated number of Soviets under arms during the cold war estimated at 5 million.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam

    Germany in 1939 is not Russia in 2023. If you leftards ever took some history classes you would know one is not like the other. And Russia in 2023 is not the Soviet Union of 1970. Estimated number of Soviets under arms during the cold war estimated at 5 million.
    Why?

    By all means, show off your deep knowledge of geopolitics you learned in world history 103.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?
    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,304 Standard Supporter

    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Because they can and have nukes? I know that one nation wanting something from another nation and then having a war over it appears to be something new to you, but it really isn't.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam

    Because they can and have nukes? I know that one nation wanting something from another nation and then having a war over it appears to be something new to you, but it really isn't.
    But nukes! And you idiots accuse me of not reading. Jfc.

    So if a nation has nukes we should surrender territory to them when they invade other nations?

    By all means, keep telling me you guys don't believe in appeasement.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,877 Founders Club

    Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?

    Use your big boy words.
    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 45,814 Standard Supporter

    Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.
    That's Godwin's Law, right thur.

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam
    pawz said:

    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    This is what about ism. Hth.

    But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam

    That's Godwin's Law, right thur.

    Actually it's not since I'm calling your group Neville Chamberlain.

    It used to be the right that recognized the failed ideologies of appeasement and isolationism but I digress.

    Take a HiSTorY ClAsS LeFTaRd! RoFL.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 45,814 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2023

    This is what about ism. Hth.

    But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
    I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,611 Founders Club
    We know how America would react

    Cuba and the brink of nuclear war
  • BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2023
    pawz said:

    Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.

    How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?

    Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.


    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,877 Founders Club
    edited March 2023

    This is what about ism. Hth.

    But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
    No, it is not. It is a principled analogy based on a principle you espoused that “[x-country does not] have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?”

    Please to be defending said principle, or give valid reasons why y-variable might justifiably cause a deviation from principle.

    Thank you.


  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,962 Swaye's Wigwam
    Blueduck said:

    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    Complete horseshit
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam

    I dunno - but playing your historical equivalence style - you're familiar with the Zimmermann Telegram.

    Let's think about this though I know it's hard to differentiate, why is NATO more appealing than CSTO? No googling you leftards!
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam
    pawz said:

    No, it is not. It is a principled analogy based on a principle you espoused that “[x-country does not] have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?”

    Please to be defending said principle, or give valid reasons why y-variable might justifiably cause a deviation from principle.

    Thank you.


    It is, in that regardless of how the US would act, it is a principle. That's the definition of what about ism.

    ATBS, I said I would play, now explain, why would Mexico want to align itself with either of those countries(existing) alliances?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam
    Blueduck said:

    Pssssst,
    Whatever you do..

    Don't mention the genocide of the Russian people in the Donbass and surrounding areas that has been going on 10 years now and carried out by the Ukrainian puppet govt since the US led coup to remove a democratically elected president and replace him with someone the US wanted back in 2013-14.

    Don't mention that part!
    UN 3rd party found 7 deaths from mines/shelling per year in the region on average from 2014-2020.

    Good thing Russia invaded to save all those people in the Donbass!

    As mentioned elsewhere, maybe you've Googled back to 2014. I've been following this conflict since the Orange revolution. Go Google that.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,829 Swaye's Wigwam

    We know how America would react

    Cuba and the brink of nuclear war

    Tbf Biden would probably either surrender or whisper something unintelligible.

    Franny!?
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