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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,034 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    Has WW3 started? Are we still worried about wmd's? @ThomasFremont has made peace yet?

    Anyway, how are things going for the Russians? Still going "just as planned"? The glorious plan to attrition away a generation of young people in a demographically declining country still Putin playing 4D chess?

    How has the capture of Bakhmut played out? Strategically a critical turning point? Worth 100k bodies?

    I'll take my answers off air...

    While no loss of life or war is good, I would think you would care more about the 400,000 Ukrainian soldiers who have been slaughtered. Do you you have any young American men in your life you're worried about getting sent over there to die? If peace isn't made, you know this is coming right?
    Kinda seems like they don't want to be invaded if those numbers are true don't you think?

    Also, I don't buy this boards crocodile tears for Ukrainians when they also defend Russian "preventative defense".
    Assholes fighting assholes. Or Byzantines fighting Banderan Nazis. Who seriously GAF?

    Corruption and grifting are the only explanation for NATO's involvement.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member Posts: 8,145

    RoadTrip said:

    Has WW3 started? Are we still worried about wmd's? @ThomasFremont has made peace yet?

    Anyway, how are things going for the Russians? Still going "just as planned"? The glorious plan to attrition away a generation of young people in a demographically declining country still Putin playing 4D chess?

    How has the capture of Bakhmut played out? Strategically a critical turning point? Worth 100k bodies?

    I'll take my answers off air...

    While no loss of life or war is good, I would think you would care more about the 400,000 Ukrainian soldiers who have been slaughtered. Do you you have any young American men in your life you're worried about getting sent over there to die? If peace isn't made, you know this is coming right?
    Kinda seems like they don't want to be invaded if those numbers are true don't you think?

    Also, I don't buy this boards crocodile tears for Ukrainians when they also defend Russian "preventative defense".
    What % of those 400K do you think had a choice? I haven't seen a single post defending Russia.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Has WW3 started? Are we still worried about wmd's? @ThomasFremont has made peace yet?

    Anyway, how are things going for the Russians? Still going "just as planned"? The glorious plan to attrition away a generation of young people in a demographically declining country still Putin playing 4D chess?

    How has the capture of Bakhmut played out? Strategically a critical turning point? Worth 100k bodies?

    I'll take my answers off air...

    While no loss of life or war is good, I would think you would care more about the 400,000 Ukrainian soldiers who have been slaughtered. Do you you have any young American men in your life you're worried about getting sent over there to die? If peace isn't made, you know this is coming right?
    Kinda seems like they don't want to be invaded if those numbers are true don't you think?

    Also, I don't buy this boards crocodile tears for Ukrainians when they also defend Russian "preventative defense".
    I haven't seen a single post defending Russia.
    Hilarious
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Has WW3 started? Are we still worried about wmd's? @ThomasFremont has made peace yet?

    Anyway, how are things going for the Russians? Still going "just as planned"? The glorious plan to attrition away a generation of young people in a demographically declining country still Putin playing 4D chess?

    How has the capture of Bakhmut played out? Strategically a critical turning point? Worth 100k bodies?

    I'll take my answers off air...

    While no loss of life or war is good, I would think you would care more about the 400,000 Ukrainian soldiers who have been slaughtered. Do you you have any young American men in your life you're worried about getting sent over there to die? If peace isn't made, you know this is coming right?
    Kinda seems like they don't want to be invaded if those numbers are true don't you think?

    Also, I don't buy this boards crocodile tears for Ukrainians when they also defend Russian "preventative defense".
    I haven't seen a single post defending Russia.
    Hilarious
    Let's say Vivek or Trump are the nominee

    You gonna vote for Biden to keep sending money to Ukraine?

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Has WW3 started? Are we still worried about wmd's? @ThomasFremont has made peace yet?

    Anyway, how are things going for the Russians? Still going "just as planned"? The glorious plan to attrition away a generation of young people in a demographically declining country still Putin playing 4D chess?

    How has the capture of Bakhmut played out? Strategically a critical turning point? Worth 100k bodies?

    I'll take my answers off air...

    While no loss of life or war is good, I would think you would care more about the 400,000 Ukrainian soldiers who have been slaughtered. Do you you have any young American men in your life you're worried about getting sent over there to die? If peace isn't made, you know this is coming right?
    Kinda seems like they don't want to be invaded if those numbers are true don't you think?

    Also, I don't buy this boards crocodile tears for Ukrainians when they also defend Russian "preventative defense".
    I haven't seen a single post defending Russia.
    Hilarious
    Let's say Vivek or Trump are the nominee

    You gonna vote for Biden to keep sending money to Ukraine?

    I hate everyone and am going to self immolate on the steps of Husky Stadium like Thich Damg Duck or whatever his name was
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Has WW3 started? Are we still worried about wmd's? @ThomasFremont has made peace yet?

    Anyway, how are things going for the Russians? Still going "just as planned"? The glorious plan to attrition away a generation of young people in a demographically declining country still Putin playing 4D chess?

    How has the capture of Bakhmut played out? Strategically a critical turning point? Worth 100k bodies?

    I'll take my answers off air...

    While no loss of life or war is good, I would think you would care more about the 400,000 Ukrainian soldiers who have been slaughtered. Do you you have any young American men in your life you're worried about getting sent over there to die? If peace isn't made, you know this is coming right?
    Kinda seems like they don't want to be invaded if those numbers are true don't you think?

    Also, I don't buy this boards crocodile tears for Ukrainians when they also defend Russian "preventative defense".
    I haven't seen a single post defending Russia.
    Hilarious
    Let's say Vivek or Trump are the nominee

    You gonna vote for Biden to keep sending money to Ukraine?

    I hate everyone and am going to self immolate on the steps of Husky Stadium like Thich Damg Duck or whatever his name was
    So yes?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    edited August 2023
    I think Trump would be interesting on this topic. He was the President when we started training, getting CIA goon boots on the ground, and sending them stuff

    He did a hell of a lot more than Obama
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,417 Founders Club
    edited August 2023

    I think Trump would be interesting on this topic. He was the President when we started training, getting CIA goon boots on the ground, and sending them stuff

    He did a hell of a lot more than Obama

    After he was impeached for threatening to not do what Obama wouldn't do.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    I think Trump would be interesting on this topic. He was the President when we started training, getting CIA goon boots on the ground, and sending them stuff

    He did a hell of a lot more than Obama

    He kept Putin in Russia

    Had he got a second term...

    He says he's ending it in 24 hours which means Zelensky and Putin are going to accept a deal they could already have

    Elections have consequences
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028

    I think Trump would be interesting on this topic. He was the President when we started training, getting CIA goon boots on the ground, and sending them stuff

    He did a hell of a lot more than Obama

    He kept Putin in Russia

    Had he got a second term...

    He says he's ending it in 24 hours which means Zelensky and Putin are going to accept a deal they could already have

    Elections have consequences
    In order:

    100% agree

    We don't deal in hypotheticals.

    Part of why the establishment hates him. Bad for business. Interesting to see what he would negotiate, 2014 borders? Existing loc? At best it will be like Korea though since Russia will just arm up for the next democrat in power and Ukraine knows it.

    Elections do indeed. I'm sure all sides are eyeing this upcoming one and making current planning around it. Russia trying to hold onto as much land as possible and Ukraine trying to retake as much as possible.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028
    Interesting on the topic of outcomes possible.

    https://youtu.be/7rBlVnc_DEw?si=ehPGyITsHvTgnyls
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005


    NATO totally grasping at straws.

    Brazil ain't got no quarrel with the Viet Cong.

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028



    NATO totally grasping at straws.

    Brazil ain't got no quarrel with the Viet Cong.

    Got a link to the actual tweet?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    pawz said:
    The fact that Ukraine is steadily moving forward these past 2 weeks isnt a secret
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter

    pawz said:
    The fact that Ukraine is steadily moving forward these past 2 weeks isnt a secret
    All 347 of them.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
    Sprinter is an obvious Russian tweeter

    The first casualty of war is......

    Truth
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,417 Founders Club
    edited August 2023
    https://www.floppingaces.net/most-wanted/why-are-retired-american-generals-so-consistently-wrong/

    by Larry Johnson

    The following retired Generals are popping up on cable news channels to offer their “sage” analysis on the war in Ukraine and they all share one thing in common — they are wrong to a staggering degree. I am shocked by their inability to objectively analyze the situation. Instead, they repeat the same propaganda memes — Russian troops are poorly led; Russian troops are conscripts and poorly trained; Russian troops have lousy morale; the Russian Army is brittle and will break under pressure; and Russia is losing.

    These are not uneducated men and they demonstrated some measure of competence when given commands of major forces. So why are they so consistently wrong about fundamental facts?

    I am pretty sure that all have acknowledged at some point that an attacking force, when confronted with a well entrenched foe, must have air supremacy if that force is to have a snow ball’s chance in Hell of breaching the defensive lines. Yet, you do not have to be cleared for Top Secret intelligence to know that Ukraine’s Air Force has been decimated and is incapable of launching sustained attacks on Russian troop positions.

    There also is a lot of happy talk about Ukraine striking Russian lines of communication (LOCs) with HIMARs and Storm Shadow missiles. But there is scant evidence to support this claim. In fact, the opposite is true. It is Russia, not Ukraine, that is striking Ukrainian command and logistics hubs throughout Ukraine on a daily basis. And Ukraine’s air defense has been depleted and cannot stop the nightly barrage.

    These generals are either ignorant of Russia’s success in decimating the multitude of attacks launched since the start of the counter offensive on June 5 or they are choosing to lie. I do not see any middle ground. The images of NATO supplied burning tanks, Bradleys, Strikers and Marders are all over the internet. The photos and videos are not generated by Artificial Intelligence, but these Generals ignore that reality.

    Ditto for Ukrainian casualties. Social media is filled with photos and videos of massive cemeteries with seemingly endless rows of Ukrainian flags sprouting from freshly dug graves. Hell, even Ukrainian sources admitted the shortage of burial plots compelled Zelensky’s Government to dig up World War II cemeteries and discard the remains of Soviet soldiers in order to make room for the burgeoning number of Ukrainian KIA. This is not secret information. It is easy to find if you know how to do a simple Google search.

    Then there is the question of ammunition supplies. Ukraine is running on fumes and has been forced to use 155 mm cluster munitions because the West no longer has the ability to supply the more effective standard 155 mm shell. Even Biden admitted this publicly, yet the collection of retired U.S. Generals refuse to accept that fact and incorporate it into their analysis.

    This failure to engage reality helps explain the failures, under the leadership of these men, to achieve a victory in the U.S. military operations in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. None of these men have conducted a combined arms campaign against a peer military force.

    Ukraine does not have an endless supply of potential recruits. To the contrary, Ukraine is rounding up teenagers and men over 50, providing them with cursory training and throwing them into a meat grinder. Not one of these Generals concedes that this is crazy and counter productive. Russia, by contrast, has expanded its force and continues to sign up new recruits. These new soldiers are receiving a minimum of six months training before being sent anywhere near a battlefield.

    What is going on? Are we are witnessing a debacle built on group think or are these Generals hostages to their economic masters? In other words, lying in order to get paid. I am posting four interviews with Stan McChrystal, Phil Breedlove, Ben Hodges and David Petraeus so that you can decide for yourself. I apologize in advance for subjecting you to this but I think it is important to hear what they say.



  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028
    pawz said:

    https://www.floppingaces.net/most-wanted/why-are-retired-american-generals-so-consistently-wrong/

    by Larry Johnson

    The following retired Generals are popping up on cable news channels to offer their “sage” analysis on the war in Ukraine and they all share one thing in common — they are wrong to a staggering degree. I am shocked by their inability to objectively analyze the situation. Instead, they repeat the same propaganda memes — Russian troops are poorly led; Russian troops are conscripts and poorly trained; Russian troops have lousy morale; the Russian Army is brittle and will break under pressure; and Russia is losing.

    These are not uneducated men and they demonstrated some measure of competence when given commands of major forces. So why are they so consistently wrong about fundamental facts?

    I am pretty sure that all have acknowledged at some point that an attacking force, when confronted with a well entrenched foe, must have air supremacy if that force is to have a snow ball’s chance in Hell of breaching the defensive lines. Yet, you do not have to be cleared for Top Secret intelligence to know that Ukraine’s Air Force has been decimated and is incapable of launching sustained attacks on Russian troop positions.

    There also is a lot of happy talk about Ukraine striking Russian lines of communication (LOCs) with HIMARs and Storm Shadow missiles. But there is scant evidence to support this claim. In fact, the opposite is true. It is Russia, not Ukraine, that is striking Ukrainian command and logistics hubs throughout Ukraine on a daily basis. And Ukraine’s air defense has been depleted and cannot stop the nightly barrage.

    These generals are either ignorant of Russia’s success in decimating the multitude of attacks launched since the start of the counter offensive on June 5 or they are choosing to lie. I do not see any middle ground. The images of NATO supplied burning tanks, Bradleys, Strikers and Marders are all over the internet. The photos and videos are not generated by Artificial Intelligence, but these Generals ignore that reality.

    Ditto for Ukrainian casualties. Social media is filled with photos and videos of massive cemeteries with seemingly endless rows of Ukrainian flags sprouting from freshly dug graves. Hell, even Ukrainian sources admitted the shortage of burial plots compelled Zelensky’s Government to dig up World War II cemeteries and discard the remains of Soviet soldiers in order to make room for the burgeoning number of Ukrainian KIA. This is not secret information. It is easy to find if you know how to do a simple Google search.

    Then there is the question of ammunition supplies. Ukraine is running on fumes and has been forced to use 155 mm cluster munitions because the West no longer has the ability to supply the more effective standard 155 mm shell. Even Biden admitted this publicly, yet the collection of retired U.S. Generals refuse to accept that fact and incorporate it into their analysis.

    This failure to engage reality helps explain the failures, under the leadership of these men, to achieve a victory in the U.S. military operations in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. None of these men have conducted a combined arms campaign against a peer military force.

    Ukraine does not have an endless supply of potential recruits. To the contrary, Ukraine is rounding up teenagers and men over 50, providing them with cursory training and throwing them into a meat grinder. Not one of these Generals concedes that this is crazy and counter productive. Russia, by contrast, has expanded its force and continues to sign up new recruits. These new soldiers are receiving a minimum of six months training before being sent anywhere near a battlefield.

    What is going on? Are we are witnessing a debacle built on group think or are these Generals hostages to their economic masters? In other words, lying in order to get paid. I am posting four interviews with Stan McChrystal, Phil Breedlove, Ben Hodges and David Petraeus so that you can decide for yourself. I apologize in advance for subjecting you to this but I think it is important to hear what they say.



    Why is Ukraine on the offensive at all unless the Russians have been decimated?

    It doesn't take a genius to do some of this math.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,624 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    https://www.floppingaces.net/most-wanted/why-are-retired-american-generals-so-consistently-wrong/

    by Larry Johnson

    The following retired Generals are popping up on cable news channels to offer their “sage” analysis on the war in Ukraine and they all share one thing in common — they are wrong to a staggering degree. I am shocked by their inability to objectively analyze the situation. Instead, they repeat the same propaganda memes — Russian troops are poorly led; Russian troops are conscripts and poorly trained; Russian troops have lousy morale; the Russian Army is brittle and will break under pressure; and Russia is losing.

    These are not uneducated men and they demonstrated some measure of competence when given commands of major forces. So why are they so consistently wrong about fundamental facts?

    I am pretty sure that all have acknowledged at some point that an attacking force, when confronted with a well entrenched foe, must have air supremacy if that force is to have a snow ball’s chance in Hell of breaching the defensive lines. Yet, you do not have to be cleared for Top Secret intelligence to know that Ukraine’s Air Force has been decimated and is incapable of launching sustained attacks on Russian troop positions.

    There also is a lot of happy talk about Ukraine striking Russian lines of communication (LOCs) with HIMARs and Storm Shadow missiles. But there is scant evidence to support this claim. In fact, the opposite is true. It is Russia, not Ukraine, that is striking Ukrainian command and logistics hubs throughout Ukraine on a daily basis. And Ukraine’s air defense has been depleted and cannot stop the nightly barrage.

    These generals are either ignorant of Russia’s success in decimating the multitude of attacks launched since the start of the counter offensive on June 5 or they are choosing to lie. I do not see any middle ground. The images of NATO supplied burning tanks, Bradleys, Strikers and Marders are all over the internet. The photos and videos are not generated by Artificial Intelligence, but these Generals ignore that reality.

    Ditto for Ukrainian casualties. Social media is filled with photos and videos of massive cemeteries with seemingly endless rows of Ukrainian flags sprouting from freshly dug graves. Hell, even Ukrainian sources admitted the shortage of burial plots compelled Zelensky’s Government to dig up World War II cemeteries and discard the remains of Soviet soldiers in order to make room for the burgeoning number of Ukrainian KIA. This is not secret information. It is easy to find if you know how to do a simple Google search.

    Then there is the question of ammunition supplies. Ukraine is running on fumes and has been forced to use 155 mm cluster munitions because the West no longer has the ability to supply the more effective standard 155 mm shell. Even Biden admitted this publicly, yet the collection of retired U.S. Generals refuse to accept that fact and incorporate it into their analysis.

    This failure to engage reality helps explain the failures, under the leadership of these men, to achieve a victory in the U.S. military operations in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. None of these men have conducted a combined arms campaign against a peer military force.

    Ukraine does not have an endless supply of potential recruits. To the contrary, Ukraine is rounding up teenagers and men over 50, providing them with cursory training and throwing them into a meat grinder. Not one of these Generals concedes that this is crazy and counter productive. Russia, by contrast, has expanded its force and continues to sign up new recruits. These new soldiers are receiving a minimum of six months training before being sent anywhere near a battlefield.

    What is going on? Are we are witnessing a debacle built on group think or are these Generals hostages to their economic masters? In other words, lying in order to get paid. I am posting four interviews with Stan McChrystal, Phil Breedlove, Ben Hodges and David Petraeus so that you can decide for yourself. I apologize in advance for subjecting you to this but I think it is important to hear what they say.



    Why is Ukraine on the offensive at all unless the Russians have been decimated?

    It doesn't take a genius to do some of this math.
    At some point they need to breakout or get completely smothered. Russia is fine sitting in their bunkers and watching the suicide run.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    pawz said:

    https://www.floppingaces.net/most-wanted/why-are-retired-american-generals-so-consistently-wrong/

    by Larry Johnson

    The following retired Generals are popping up on cable news channels to offer their “sage” analysis on the war in Ukraine and they all share one thing in common — they are wrong to a staggering degree. I am shocked by their inability to objectively analyze the situation. Instead, they repeat the same propaganda memes — Russian troops are poorly led; Russian troops are conscripts and poorly trained; Russian troops have lousy morale; the Russian Army is brittle and will break under pressure; and Russia is losing.

    These are not uneducated men and they demonstrated some measure of competence when given commands of major forces. So why are they so consistently wrong about fundamental facts?

    I am pretty sure that all have acknowledged at some point that an attacking force, when confronted with a well entrenched foe, must have air supremacy if that force is to have a snow ball’s chance in Hell of breaching the defensive lines. Yet, you do not have to be cleared for Top Secret intelligence to know that Ukraine’s Air Force has been decimated and is incapable of launching sustained attacks on Russian troop positions.

    There also is a lot of happy talk about Ukraine striking Russian lines of communication (LOCs) with HIMARs and Storm Shadow missiles. But there is scant evidence to support this claim. In fact, the opposite is true. It is Russia, not Ukraine, that is striking Ukrainian command and logistics hubs throughout Ukraine on a daily basis. And Ukraine’s air defense has been depleted and cannot stop the nightly barrage.

    These generals are either ignorant of Russia’s success in decimating the multitude of attacks launched since the start of the counter offensive on June 5 or they are choosing to lie. I do not see any middle ground. The images of NATO supplied burning tanks, Bradleys, Strikers and Marders are all over the internet. The photos and videos are not generated by Artificial Intelligence, but these Generals ignore that reality.

    Ditto for Ukrainian casualties. Social media is filled with photos and videos of massive cemeteries with seemingly endless rows of Ukrainian flags sprouting from freshly dug graves. Hell, even Ukrainian sources admitted the shortage of burial plots compelled Zelensky’s Government to dig up World War II cemeteries and discard the remains of Soviet soldiers in order to make room for the burgeoning number of Ukrainian KIA. This is not secret information. It is easy to find if you know how to do a simple Google search.

    Then there is the question of ammunition supplies. Ukraine is running on fumes and has been forced to use 155 mm cluster munitions because the West no longer has the ability to supply the more effective standard 155 mm shell. Even Biden admitted this publicly, yet the collection of retired U.S. Generals refuse to accept that fact and incorporate it into their analysis.

    This failure to engage reality helps explain the failures, under the leadership of these men, to achieve a victory in the U.S. military operations in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. None of these men have conducted a combined arms campaign against a peer military force.

    Ukraine does not have an endless supply of potential recruits. To the contrary, Ukraine is rounding up teenagers and men over 50, providing them with cursory training and throwing them into a meat grinder. Not one of these Generals concedes that this is crazy and counter productive. Russia, by contrast, has expanded its force and continues to sign up new recruits. These new soldiers are receiving a minimum of six months training before being sent anywhere near a battlefield.

    What is going on? Are we are witnessing a debacle built on group think or are these Generals hostages to their economic masters? In other words, lying in order to get paid. I am posting four interviews with Stan McChrystal, Phil Breedlove, Ben Hodges and David Petraeus so that you can decide for yourself. I apologize in advance for subjecting you to this but I think it is important to hear what they say.



    Why is Ukraine on the offensive at all unless the Russians have been decimated?

    It doesn't take a genius to do some of this math.
    Because comrade, Russia never retreats. They just strategically reposition as a gesture of good slavic brotherly love
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    Trump the only man who can prevent ww3?

    Sure.gif
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028
    Bob_C said:

    pawz said:

    https://www.floppingaces.net/most-wanted/why-are-retired-american-generals-so-consistently-wrong/

    by Larry Johnson

    The following retired Generals are popping up on cable news channels to offer their “sage” analysis on the war in Ukraine and they all share one thing in common — they are wrong to a staggering degree. I am shocked by their inability to objectively analyze the situation. Instead, they repeat the same propaganda memes — Russian troops are poorly led; Russian troops are conscripts and poorly trained; Russian troops have lousy morale; the Russian Army is brittle and will break under pressure; and Russia is losing.

    These are not uneducated men and they demonstrated some measure of competence when given commands of major forces. So why are they so consistently wrong about fundamental facts?

    I am pretty sure that all have acknowledged at some point that an attacking force, when confronted with a well entrenched foe, must have air supremacy if that force is to have a snow ball’s chance in Hell of breaching the defensive lines. Yet, you do not have to be cleared for Top Secret intelligence to know that Ukraine’s Air Force has been decimated and is incapable of launching sustained attacks on Russian troop positions.

    There also is a lot of happy talk about Ukraine striking Russian lines of communication (LOCs) with HIMARs and Storm Shadow missiles. But there is scant evidence to support this claim. In fact, the opposite is true. It is Russia, not Ukraine, that is striking Ukrainian command and logistics hubs throughout Ukraine on a daily basis. And Ukraine’s air defense has been depleted and cannot stop the nightly barrage.

    These generals are either ignorant of Russia’s success in decimating the multitude of attacks launched since the start of the counter offensive on June 5 or they are choosing to lie. I do not see any middle ground. The images of NATO supplied burning tanks, Bradleys, Strikers and Marders are all over the internet. The photos and videos are not generated by Artificial Intelligence, but these Generals ignore that reality.

    Ditto for Ukrainian casualties. Social media is filled with photos and videos of massive cemeteries with seemingly endless rows of Ukrainian flags sprouting from freshly dug graves. Hell, even Ukrainian sources admitted the shortage of burial plots compelled Zelensky’s Government to dig up World War II cemeteries and discard the remains of Soviet soldiers in order to make room for the burgeoning number of Ukrainian KIA. This is not secret information. It is easy to find if you know how to do a simple Google search.

    Then there is the question of ammunition supplies. Ukraine is running on fumes and has been forced to use 155 mm cluster munitions because the West no longer has the ability to supply the more effective standard 155 mm shell. Even Biden admitted this publicly, yet the collection of retired U.S. Generals refuse to accept that fact and incorporate it into their analysis.

    This failure to engage reality helps explain the failures, under the leadership of these men, to achieve a victory in the U.S. military operations in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. None of these men have conducted a combined arms campaign against a peer military force.

    Ukraine does not have an endless supply of potential recruits. To the contrary, Ukraine is rounding up teenagers and men over 50, providing them with cursory training and throwing them into a meat grinder. Not one of these Generals concedes that this is crazy and counter productive. Russia, by contrast, has expanded its force and continues to sign up new recruits. These new soldiers are receiving a minimum of six months training before being sent anywhere near a battlefield.

    What is going on? Are we are witnessing a debacle built on group think or are these Generals hostages to their economic masters? In other words, lying in order to get paid. I am posting four interviews with Stan McChrystal, Phil Breedlove, Ben Hodges and David Petraeus so that you can decide for yourself. I apologize in advance for subjecting you to this but I think it is important to hear what they say.



    Why is Ukraine on the offensive at all unless the Russians have been decimated?

    It doesn't take a genius to do some of this math.
    At some point they need to breakout or get completely smothered. Russia is fine sitting in their bunkers and watching the suicide run.
    Russia has had lots of attempts at offensives and they've all failed miserably. Even the Russian milbloggers want heads to roll over Vuhledar's repeated stupidity.

    Ukraine's offensive is about what you'd expect without air power. They don't have a manpower problem they have an equipment problem which is why you see technicals being used for offensives.

    Either way, the longer Russia stays in a war of attrition the better it is strategically for everyone not named Russia or Ukraine. It won't be long before states like Chechnya or Dagestan reignite into rebellion. Let Russia deal with that for the next 20-30yrs instead of interfering in other parts of the world.

    I digress, NOW it will be WW3. @ThomasFremont RIP.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2023

    Trump the only man who can prevent ww3?

    Sure.gif

    Yes. All the other idiots want WW3.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    Sledog said:

    Trump the only man who can prevent ww3?

    Sure.gif

    Yes. All the other idiots want WW3
    Talk about idol worship