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Not only are we not a national brand

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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    I think you still gotta consider Nebraska a Blue Blood based on history. They are no doubt dying, but as we've so often seen, any school like that is just one home run hire away from getting the ship righted. The challenge is, of course, those guys are so far an few between.

    So here's in interesting question: When did Cal cease being a Blue Blood? When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor they certainly still met all the requirements- e.g., NTs in 1920, 21, 22, 23 and 37.
    Great question and I’m not precisely sure. I would say definitely by 1980 but probably before. By 80 they had gone 30 years without a top 10 finish and 43 years without an NC (or even a rose bowl win, or any bowel win though obviously bowl wins meant something back then).

    Four of their five NCs were consecutive and under one coach. They never really established themselves as a serious power outside of Smith besides one 3-4 year run each under Stub and Pappy.
  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,199 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited February 2023

    Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me

    Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years

    Clemson had a big decade

    UW has fits of glory followed by despair

    Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year

    Its
    Notre Dame
    Michigan
    Texas
    Oklahoma
    Bama
    tOSU
    USC

    This
  • Fishpo31Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,583
    Was Penn State a blue blood?
  • Fishpo31Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,583
    edited February 2023

    In all seriousness I think they’re in the next tier. Only 2 NCs is the big disqualifier though they have a couple other worthy seasons. Only one Heisman winner. They’re just on the outside looking in IMO. And that’s before any sort of asterisk for harboring a pedophile for decades.

    I agree. I looked at it and thought "Who is missing, if anyone?", and I have a probable bias towards them because they were dominant during the time I started to pay attention (late 60's), and they were on TV a lot (at the time, probably 3-4 times a year)...
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited February 2023
    Florida State might have a better argument than Penn State. It’s an interesting comp anyway. Both fall short IMO.
  • coronabruincoronabruin Member Posts: 1,491
    Have to considered recruiting more STEM majors? Seems to be working at Oregon. @46XiJCAB @trublue @creepycoug @Ballz
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    So I haven’t researched it and maybe all of my own blue blood picks don’t qualify if we use this lens but I’m thinking a true Blue Blood should have at least 2 NCs even after you take away the accomplishments of their best coach. A blue blood is a top program over multiple eras and multiple administrations. Can’t just be held up by one coach and another random great year.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,704 Founders Club
    edited February 2023
    If Texas didn't have the high school football culture they wouldn't be considered.
  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 5,198 Standard Supporter
    As the bored’s resident Penn State fan (it continues to trend for my kid to go there) agree that they’re tier 2 in this.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,913

    Things get misquoted around here all the Tim....ain't no big thing.

    That being said, what's a better definition of a Blue Blood than the "Iron Laws"? @creepycoug isn't a Blue Blood because he still doesn't have tradition and no dinero either.
    Miami is a boom or bust program. Would I prefer they were good all the time and had a coach that wanted to stay 25 years and beat everyone senseless? Sure. And there's enough money to make it happen. But I'd take what they've given me over flacid "consistently good but never great." I'd rather reach the peak and see the view and then descend to sea level for a while vs. spending my life at base camp. YMMV.

    Miami has been part of some of the most historically important and visible games ever, has been part of some nationally-compelling rivalries, established sea changes in the game by way of style of play, by way of program culture, has produced a shit ton of truly great name players, is closing in on Buck and Michigan for most alumni in the pro fb HOF (and will then be knocking on SC's door), has one or two of the very best teams ever to be fielded and has been as nationally relevant, love them or hate them, as any program has ever been. Every single person knows who they are and what they've been about. The program that beat one of the most dominant cfb teams ever for its first title, and won 5 and played for 2 others. I could go on, and will if you make me. This is the program that made Jimmy Johnson cry like a little girl on his way to the airport for Dallas.

    I'll take what they've given me over being a Nebraska, Texas, Michigan or ND fan any. day. of. the. week. Those of you who like the monarchy and who like to look down your noses at the newly rich may prefer otherwise. Again, IDFC. It's a Miami thing. You wouldn't understand.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,913

    Jesus Christos @creepycoug you ignorant slut.

    The UK has a permanent seat (with veto power) on the UN Security Council. That's about as Blue Blood as it gets.
    Exhibit B for why "blue blood" is stupid. Sixth largest economy in the world. Bfd. Wake me up.

    Setting aside our shared history and language, they being the source of a lot of our traditions, legal and economic, we wouldn't care about them. You know it, I know it, and the American people know. Fuck, Jackie Kennedy tried to explain this to you 60 years ago boo. Take your Anglophile perversions off the board ese. It's unmanly. And un-American.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,069 Founders Club

    Miami is a boom or bust program. Would I prefer they were good all the time and had a coach that wanted to stay 25 years and beat everyone senseless? Sure. And there's enough money to make it happen. But I'd take what they've given me over flacid "consistently good but never great." I'd rather reach the peak and see the view and then descend to sea level for a while vs. spending my life at base camp. YMMV.

    Miami has been part of some of the most historically important and visible games ever, has been part of some nationally-compelling rivalries, established sea changes in the game by way of style of play, by way of program culture, has produced a shit ton of truly great name players, is closing in on Buck and Michigan for most alumni in the pro fb HOF (and will then be knocking on SC's door), has one or two of the very best teams ever to be fielded and has been as nationally relevant, love them or hate them, as any program has ever been. Every single person knows who they are and what they've been about. The program that beat one of the most dominant cfb teams ever for its first title, and won 5 and played for 2 others. I could go on, and will if you make me. This is the program that made Jimmy Johnson cry like a little girl on his way to the airport for Dallas.

    I'll take what they've given me over being a Nebraska, Texas, Michigan or ND fan any. day. of. the. week. Those of you who like the monarchy and who like to look down your noses at the newly rich may prefer otherwise. Again, IDFC. It's a Miami thing. You wouldn't understand.

  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,771 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2023
    Here is the blue blood list per https://www.gambleonline.co/blog/who-are-the-blue-bloods-of-college-football/
    1. Bama
    2. Michigan
    3. Nebraska
    4. The Irish
    5. Ohio St
    6. Oklahomo
    7. Texas
    8. USC

      and the ones that barely missed out
      UGA
      Penn State
      LSU
      FSU
      Florida
      Miami
      Clemson
      Tennessee
      Auburn
      Washington
    Edit - We are the bottom of the elites I think
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,913


    but even the stupid city of Miami couldn't take away any of the things I listed. that's all for keeps.
  • HairyBallsDawgHairyBallsDawg Member Posts: 1,074
    If we can win an NC in the next couple of years, and claim a couple more retroactive NCs, I think we can make a strong case for being a dark purple blood with heavy blue tints mixed in.

    Weren't we undefeated for many years back in the 1920s and 1930s? I realize some of those games were against Ballard High School and the Crew of the USS Lincoln... but still. I bet those wins were as hard to come by as some of the wins that the pure blue bloods have from those years.

  • HFNYHFNY Member Posts: 5,328 Standard Supporter
    When Penix wins the Heisman and UW wins the National Championship next year, UW will vault into the Blue Bloods category #cookit
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