Not only are we not a national brand
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Great question and I’m not precisely sure. I would say definitely by 1980 but probably before. By 80 they had gone 30 years without a top 10 finish and 43 years without an NC (or even a rose bowl win, or any bowel win though obviously bowl wins meant something back then).YellowSnow said:
I think you still gotta consider Nebraska a Blue Blood based on history. They are no doubt dying, but as we've so often seen, any school like that is just one home run hire away from getting the ship righted. The challenge is, of course, those guys are so far an few between.dnc said:For me there's a difference between Tier I and Blue Bloods. Tier I is more forward lookin (with obviously a healthy dose of accomplishments). Blue Bloods is more historical accomplishments. To me Nebraska is a dying Blue Blood but probably no longer in Tier 1.
So here's in interesting question: When did Cal cease being a Blue Blood? When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor they certainly still met all the requirements- e.g., NTs in 1920, 21, 22, 23 and 37.
Four of their five NCs were consecutive and under one coach. They never really established themselves as a serious power outside of Smith besides one 3-4 year run each under Stub and Pappy. -
ThisRaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
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Was Penn State a blue blood?
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In all seriousness I think they’re in the next tier. Only 2 NCs is the big disqualifier though they have a couple other worthy seasons. Only one Heisman winner. They’re just on the outside looking in IMO. And that’s before any sort of asterisk for harboring a pedophile for decades.
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I agree. I looked at it and thought "Who is missing, if anyone?", and I have a probable bias towards them because they were dominant during the time I started to pay attention (late 60's), and they were on TV a lot (at the time, probably 3-4 times a year)...HillsboroDuck said:In all seriousness I think they’re in the next tier. Only 2 NCs is the big disqualifier though they have a couple other worthy seasons. Only one Heisman winner. They’re just on the outside looking in IMO. And that’s before any sort of asterisk for harboring a pedophile for decades.
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Florida State might have a better argument than Penn State. It’s an interesting comp anyway. Both fall short IMO.
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Have to considered recruiting more STEM majors? Seems to be working at Oregon. @46XiJCAB @trublue @creepycoug @Ballz
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So I haven’t researched it and maybe all of my own blue blood picks don’t qualify if we use this lens but I’m thinking a true Blue Blood should have at least 2 NCs even after you take away the accomplishments of their best coach. A blue blood is a top program over multiple eras and multiple administrations. Can’t just be held up by one coach and another random great year.
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If Texas didn't have the high school football culture they wouldn't be considered.
