Not only are we not a national brand
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But 10,900 of those votes are from Sven
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We're closer to a national brand than a blue blood
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Dobie rolls in his grave
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That's exactly how I would expect people to vote for a blue blood
Jealousy -
Lotta Natties in the past 20 years by non blue bloods...
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Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC -
Of course we're not a blue blood
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@RaceBannon wasn't Nebraska a blue blood at one point? 5 Natties from the 70s to 90s. Did they get stripped of their status.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
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Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.
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Not very classy of me to forget Nebraska
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It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.dnc said:
Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.
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I voted on these polls on the twatter and can’t remember how I voted on Texas and Nebraska. The other 6 are for sure blue bloods. Texas and Nebraska you can argue convincingly for them as a yes or no.dnc said:
Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.
I like 6. -
The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.YellowSnow said:
It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.dnc said:
Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.
I like 6.
I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.
For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.
So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.
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Things get misquoted around here all the Tim....ain't no big thing.dnc said:
The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.YellowSnow said:
It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.dnc said:
Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.
I like 6.
I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.
For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.
So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.
#AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
That being said, what's a better definition of a Blue Blood than the "Iron Laws"? @creepycoug isn't a Blue Blood because he still doesn't have tradition and no dinero either. -
I think tradition is definitely a requirement for blue blood status. I don't think location is. Norman, OK is nothing special (neither is South Bend) but i think those schools are clear blue bloods. Tuscaloosa isn't a great location either. If your argument is location only matters for proximity to recruits even that leaves South Bend out IMO.YellowSnow said:
Things get misquoted around here all the Tim....ain't no big thing.dnc said:
The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.YellowSnow said:
It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.dnc said:
Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.
I like 6.
I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.
For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.
So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.
#AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
That being said, what's a better definition of a Blue Blood than the "Iron Laws"? @creepycoug isn't a Blue Blood because he still doesn't have tradition and no dinero either. -
northwestern is one of the teams you lose to you automatically get your blue blood status stripped.YellowSnow said:
@RaceBannon wasn't Nebraska a blue blood at one point? 5 Natties from the 70s to 90s. Did they get stripped of their status.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC -
Norman, OK is like 3 hrs drive from DFW. The Red River game happens annually in the Cotton Bowl. From a recruiting perspective OU seems a lot closer to the promised land than Lincoln- i.e., "location".dnc said:
I think tradition is definitely a requirement for blue blood status. I don't think location is. Norman, OK is nothing special (neither is South Bend) but i think those schools are clear blue bloods. Tuscaloosa isn't a great location either. If your argument is location only matters for proximity to recruits even that leaves South Bend out IMO.YellowSnow said:
Things get misquoted around here all the Tim....ain't no big thing.dnc said:
The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.YellowSnow said:
It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.dnc said:
Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.
I like 6.
I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.
For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.
So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.
#AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
That being said, what's a better definition of a Blue Blood than the "Iron Laws"? @creepycoug isn't a Blue Blood because he still doesn't have tradition and no dinero either.
South Bend is a dump but close to football recruiting grounds of the Upper Midwest and they are as National Brand as it gets. The biggest thing holding them back at this point is refusal to bend (no pun indented) on academis.
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I don't disagree with any of this. I don't think Nebraska's future is super bright. But I do think they still qualify as a Blue Blood. Maybe they won't after another ten years of failure. But like most schools they are still just the right coach away from success. If they find him they can still revive the brand IMO.YellowSnow said:
Norman, OK is like 3 hrs drive from DFW. The Red River game happens annually in the Cotton Bowl. From a recruiting perspective OU seems a lot closer to the promised land than Lincoln- i.e., "location".dnc said:
I think tradition is definitely a requirement for blue blood status. I don't think location is. Norman, OK is nothing special (neither is South Bend) but i think those schools are clear blue bloods. Tuscaloosa isn't a great location either. If your argument is location only matters for proximity to recruits even that leaves South Bend out IMO.YellowSnow said:
Things get misquoted around here all the Tim....ain't no big thing.dnc said:
The IRON LAWS® of college football were always meant to be forward looking. Aubbie's (foolish) contention was if you have these three things you will succeed going forward it's only a matter of tim.YellowSnow said:
It's often been stated, that to be a true Blue Blood, you need to have tradition, location and money. Nebraska lacks the location piece these days. Notre Dame is the worst of the blue bloods on the field the past 30 years, but they still have all 3.dnc said:
Curious why you put Texas in and not Nebraska? They seem fairly equivalent to me.RaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC
I think the other 6 are clear blue bloods. To me there's either 6 or 8, I don't see enough separation between Texas and Nebraska to have one but not the other.
I like 6.
I don't think that's what "Blue Bloods" is trying to describe and Aubbie himself never applied them in that fashion that i'm aware of.
For one obvious poont he applied these IRON LAWS to UW (vis a vis Oregon) as a guarantee that we would surpass them again ultimately. I don't think even Aubbie would argue UW is a blue blood.
So no, I am confident it has not been often stated that these things are required to be a Blue Blood. I'm not sure it's ever been stated until this thread.
#AuburnDawgFSSuperiorityGuy
That being said, what's a better definition of a Blue Blood than the "Iron Laws"? @creepycoug isn't a Blue Blood because he still doesn't have tradition and no dinero either.
South Bend is a dump but close to football recruiting grounds of the Upper Midwest and they are as National Brand as it gets. The biggest thing holding them back at this point is refusal to bend (no pun indented) on academis.
Notre Dame and Texas as well. -
For me there's a difference between Tier I and Blue Bloods. Tier I is more forward lookin (with obviously a healthy dose of accomplishments). Blue Bloods is more historical accomplishments. To me Nebraska is a dying Blue Blood but probably no longer in Tier 1.
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I think you still gotta consider Nebraska a Blue Blood based on history. They are no doubt dying, but as we've so often seen, any school like that is just one home run hire away from getting the ship righted. The challenge is, of course, those guys are so far an few between.dnc said:For me there's a difference between Tier I and Blue Bloods. Tier I is more forward lookin (with obviously a healthy dose of accomplishments). Blue Bloods is more historical accomplishments. To me Nebraska is a dying Blue Blood but probably no longer in Tier 1.
So here's in interesting question: When did Cal cease being a Blue Blood? When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor they certainly still met all the requirements- e.g., NTs in 1920, 21, 22, 23 and 37. -
Great question and I’m not precisely sure. I would say definitely by 1980 but probably before. By 80 they had gone 30 years without a top 10 finish and 43 years without an NC (or even a rose bowl win, or any bowel win though obviously bowl wins meant something back then).YellowSnow said:
I think you still gotta consider Nebraska a Blue Blood based on history. They are no doubt dying, but as we've so often seen, any school like that is just one home run hire away from getting the ship righted. The challenge is, of course, those guys are so far an few between.dnc said:For me there's a difference between Tier I and Blue Bloods. Tier I is more forward lookin (with obviously a healthy dose of accomplishments). Blue Bloods is more historical accomplishments. To me Nebraska is a dying Blue Blood but probably no longer in Tier 1.
So here's in interesting question: When did Cal cease being a Blue Blood? When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor they certainly still met all the requirements- e.g., NTs in 1920, 21, 22, 23 and 37.
Four of their five NCs were consecutive and under one coach. They never really established themselves as a serious power outside of Smith besides one 3-4 year run each under Stub and Pappy. -
ThisRaceBannon said:Blue blood is a restricted club. The votes don't surprise me
Michigan is a blue blood but Florida has been better for 30 years
Clemson had a big decade
UW has fits of glory followed by despair
Texas is a blue blood despite 7 wins a year
Its
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Bama
tOSU
USC -
Was Penn State a blue blood?
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In all seriousness I think they’re in the next tier. Only 2 NCs is the big disqualifier though they have a couple other worthy seasons. Only one Heisman winner. They’re just on the outside looking in IMO. And that’s before any sort of asterisk for harboring a pedophile for decades.
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I agree. I looked at it and thought "Who is missing, if anyone?", and I have a probable bias towards them because they were dominant during the time I started to pay attention (late 60's), and they were on TV a lot (at the time, probably 3-4 times a year)...HillsboroDuck said:In all seriousness I think they’re in the next tier. Only 2 NCs is the big disqualifier though they have a couple other worthy seasons. Only one Heisman winner. They’re just on the outside looking in IMO. And that’s before any sort of asterisk for harboring a pedophile for decades.
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Florida State might have a better argument than Penn State. It’s an interesting comp anyway. Both fall short IMO.
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Have to considered recruiting more STEM majors? Seems to be working at Oregon. @46XiJCAB @trublue @creepycoug @Ballz
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So I haven’t researched it and maybe all of my own blue blood picks don’t qualify if we use this lens but I’m thinking a true Blue Blood should have at least 2 NCs even after you take away the accomplishments of their best coach. A blue blood is a top program over multiple eras and multiple administrations. Can’t just be held up by one coach and another random great year.
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If Texas didn't have the high school football culture they wouldn't be considered.
