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CB Muhammad (starter)
FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,261
    I would think Hampton is more valuable at the Nickel/Husky position he played this year. Either way that other Safety position isn't my biggest concern. Much easier position than the other corner spot that needs to be filled
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    CB Muhammad (starter)
    FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
    SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
    CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


    Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

    His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season

    You’re gonna have 5 db’s on the field more often than not.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756


    Race does it again
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145


    She can sit on my face all day long but Id be shocked if that isnt a surgery ass, or photoshop
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,501
    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145

    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy

    Asa actually excels in coverage. Hampton sucks in coverage. Kamfab is fine in coverage, and sucks in run support.
  • FireTheJanitor
    FireTheJanitor Member Posts: 1,483

    CB Muhammad (starter)
    FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
    SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
    CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


    Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

    His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season

    Irvin will have a say in CB2 role if he can get and stay healthy.

    Undoubtedly a more talented room than 12 months ago, just a matter of how raw some of the talent is. Plenty of others on here know more about DB play and scouting than I do, but I’ll be surprised if Presley is ready to play year 1, let alone early. If one of the freshman DBs contributes meaningfully it’d be huge though, would be great by me if it is Presley or Reed.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756

    CB Muhammad (starter)
    FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
    SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
    CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


    Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

    His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season

    You’re gonna have 5 db’s on the field more often than not.
    Kam at Husky.

    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy

    You must be watching a different tape. ASA has shown to be good in coverage, much of the blown coverages occurred when he was out hurt. Tackling and angles are a different story.
    Lock up the corners with Muhammad and the best incoming true freshman let ASA roam the back field and let Hampton play close to the line of scrimmage
  • LaZoris
    LaZoris Member Posts: 1,734 Standard Supporter
    Use the portal for all 4 positions
  • Hypnotique
    Hypnotique Member Posts: 72

    CB Muhammad (starter)
    FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
    SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
    CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


    Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

    His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season

    You’re gonna have 5 db’s on the field more often than not.
    Kam at Husky.

    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy

    You must be watching a different tape. ASA has shown to be good in coverage, much of the blown coverages occurred when he was out hurt. Tackling and angles are a different story.
    Lock up the corners with Muhammad and the best incoming true freshman let ASA roam the back field and let Hampton play close to the line of scrimmage
    Unfortunately for Asa, tackling is part of football. Some say, it’s a pretty big part of the game.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    Doogles said:

    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy

    Asa actually excels in coverage. Hampton sucks in coverage. Kamfab is fine in coverage, and sucks in run support.
    Kamfab is not fine
    I don't ever recall seeing him beat in the passing game.

    Gets absolutely clowned on in the run game
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756

    CB Muhammad (starter)
    FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
    SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
    CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


    Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

    His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season

    You’re gonna have 5 db’s on the field more often than not.
    Kam at Husky.

    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy

    You must be watching a different tape. ASA has shown to be good in coverage, much of the blown coverages occurred when he was out hurt. Tackling and angles are a different story.
    Lock up the corners with Muhammad and the best incoming true freshman let ASA roam the back field and let Hampton play close to the line of scrimmage
    Unfortunately for Asa, tackling is part of football. Some say, it’s a pretty big part of the game.
    Good thing he has another spring practice and fall practice to actually improve
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    CB Muhammad (starter)
    FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
    SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
    CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


    Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

    His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season

    You’re gonna have 5 db’s on the field more often than not.
    Kam at Husky.

    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy

    You must be watching a different tape. ASA has shown to be good in coverage, much of the blown coverages occurred when he was out hurt. Tackling and angles are a different story.
    Lock up the corners with Muhammad and the best incoming true freshman let ASA roam the back field and let Hampton play close to the line of scrimmage
    Unfortunately for Asa, tackling is part of football. Some say, it’s a pretty big part of the game.
    Good thing he has another spring practice and fall practice to actually improve
    Is this a whoosh? He’s played 4 years now and he doesn’t do everything within his power to win the game. He hates contact.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,693


    Where is her other leg? Gone.....just gone

    NTTAWWT
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756

    CB Muhammad (starter)
    FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
    SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
    CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


    Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

    His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season

    You’re gonna have 5 db’s on the field more often than not.
    Kam at Husky.

    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy

    You must be watching a different tape. ASA has shown to be good in coverage, much of the blown coverages occurred when he was out hurt. Tackling and angles are a different story.
    Lock up the corners with Muhammad and the best incoming true freshman let ASA roam the back field and let Hampton play close to the line of scrimmage
    Unfortunately for Asa, tackling is part of football. Some say, it’s a pretty big part of the game.
    Good thing he has another spring practice and fall practice to actually improve
    Is this a whoosh? He’s played 4 years now and he doesn’t do everything within his power to win the game. He hates contact.
    You’re right , I’ve never seen players improve here, just never
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    They still need to get better in the back 7 … not enough playmakers there
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tequilla said:

    They still need to get better in the back 7 … not enough playmakers there

    There aren't any unless they're arriving this off-season. Ulofoshio is definitely one if he's fully healthy, but I'm not going to believe that will be until it is.

    I have some hope for the corners and safeties. I really hope for a new, badass inside linebacker. If Ulo isn't healthy and we get what we already have it's going to be frustrating.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,693
    Well, with a big, tall, healthy Penix and his ensemble of playmakers, we won't have much trouble scoring points on almost anybody. Can the defensive backend handle the poundin to the roundin to atleast slow offenses down enough to make sure we win the TOP game. If we can get into a playoff/NY6 game, that's when having a lockdown defense makes a difference when the game no longer is a flag football touchdownpalooza, and you NEED a stop. I'd feel better with another portal rat innthe secondary that can hit hard and is instinctive and can lockdown a #1 WR
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    dannarc said:


    Where is her other leg? Gone.....just gone

    NTTAWWT
    She & Bo Nix should hook up.
    You are en fuego. You really blew up.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756
    edited January 2023
    chuck said:

    CB Muhammad (starter)
    FS Turner, Asa JR (grandfather of the group)
    SS Hampton, Dominique RS JR (why not)
    CB Caleb Presley/Curley Reed (both are better than current)


    Muhammad is the Big 12’s third-highest-graded and fourth-most valuable cornerback over the last two seasons, according to PFF's wins above average metric.

    His 19 coverage stops in that span ranks second for Big 12 cornerbacks. \Muhammad will play for Washington next season

    You’re gonna have 5 db’s on the field more often than not.
    Kam at Husky.

    A defensive backfield that involves a combo of Asa, Hampton, Kamfab and/or Powell is going to be a recipe for a year of frustrating 3rd and long conversions again. All those guys suck at coverage. Really need at least 1 more solid portal guy

    You must be watching a different tape. ASA has shown to be good in coverage, much of the blown coverages occurred when he was out hurt. Tackling and angles are a different story.
    Lock up the corners with Muhammad and the best incoming true freshman let ASA roam the back field and let Hampton play close to the line of scrimmage
    Unfortunately for Asa, tackling is part of football. Some say, it’s a pretty big part of the game.
    Good thing he has another spring practice and fall practice to actually improve
    Is this a whoosh? He’s played 4 years now and he doesn’t do everything within his power to win the game. He hates contact.
    You’re right , I’ve never seen players improve here, just never
    Turner has improved a little at open field tackling but still has some confounding misses.

    Less confounding is the way he avoids making tackles inside and close to the line. He's terrified of the kind of contact that happens in crowded spaces and it's those situations where I still saw him intentionally taking himself out of plays this season.

    Believe me or don't. I saw it. I don't know how you expect improvement in that facet, where his weakness is clearly intentional, after all this time. He's been getting away with it for 4 years. Why change?
    Chuck for defensive coordinator!!!!

    Two fucking entirely different staffs have started this guy. He obviously brings something to the table. Before he got hurt this year he was playing very well. He’s a senior next year. People with less fucking talent have improved over their last two years at any school even with less coaching than he is getting