You can fool some of the people all of the time
Let us be thankful the Wake Forest and Iowa State coaches (and who knows else) said no
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It’s nice that she hit it out of the park but we need to know if it was a home run or a grand slam.Geevis_and_Butthead said:Yes, it's true
Let us be thankful the Wake Forest and Iowa State coaches (and who knows else) said no -
Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
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Could be revisionism here, but it seemed like most people were kind of in the LIPO camp. A fair amount of dismay about hiring someone from Fresno State, but a lot of realism that getting the likes of Purple Tie was so much malarkey.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
There were a few who were saying that letting the Iowa State guy get away was basically gonna kill the program. But I really don't recall a lot of people saying DeBoer was a terrible hire. Very few people knew anything about him ... and yeah, Cohen was fucking lucky. -
I was in LIPO mode because that's my default position. There are so few slam dunk hires out there. Saw a lot of positives, albeit at lower tier programs.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
My primary point of contention with the Campbellites was that there was no evidence to suggest Campbell was any more likely to succeed at UW than DeBoer and he was going to cost way more. -
Gonna need you to link your big support to KDB. Accountability and shit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
Here's one of mine.
Spoonfeed for those too lazy to follow the link:
The most valuable coaching commodity in football is somebody who can develop a QB. That's why Lincoln Riley just got 9 digits and why @KkkliffKkklingsbury of all people is not only coaching in the NFL but succeeding. Those guys don't know shit about defense either.
UW just went out and hired a HC that gives us the ability to develop a QB which is the one thing we haven't had since RN. He's also won national championships (3 in 4 years) at lower levels which suggests he can manage a program much better than RN did.
Three are no guarantees but this is a home run swing. DeBoer's upside is the next QB guru/offensive hotshot. And if he becomes that guy recruiting won't be that difficult. Elite QBs care about development more than any other position and elite QB's impact other recruits more than any other position.
I hate Jen Cohen with all that I am and I don't think for a minute she wanted DeBoer over Wilcox or other failures. But the boosters pushed this in the right direction and we got a guy we should be excited about.
There are no guarantees. There never are. But DeBoer not only checks a lot of boxes, he checks the most important ones.
Winners win.
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IIRC, I was pooping for Stoops purple ties (ha!), cautiously luke-warm on Campbell initially moving to "Huh?" when it appeared he was playing hard to get. If you have to think about leaving Ames, Iowa to make more $ in Seattle (or anywhere), I have questions. I was sneaky-hot on Deboer, having been an up-and-coming no-name corch at one point, it's my soft spot...
EDIT: There is no evidence on the board that I was all in on anybody, because it was all in my head... -
PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/99690/best/p1 -
@Baseman is just here to beat his chest.
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And take my victory lap, bitchesPurpleBaze said:@Baseman is just here to beat his chest.
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dnc said:
Gonna need you to link your big support to KDB. Accountability and shit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
HTH
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I don't recall being a Deboer guy early but I'll take credit
Liked his ridiculous winning percentage but I think I was originally Campbell
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LOL beating your chest over an "AGREE" post?PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
Gonna need you to link your big support to KDB. Accountability and shit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
HTH
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dnc said:
LOL beating your chest over an "AGREE" post?PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
Gonna need you to link your big support to KDB. Accountability and shit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
HTH
If it was so easy to agree, we wouldnt have the vast majority of this board wanting Aranda and Campbell
HTH
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I wanted Campbell until I saw the Fresno San Jose State game on Thanksgiving. Fresno had nothing to play for but it was a buttoned up dismantling of the defending MW champs, and IIRC ISU had a pretty meh follow up season at that point.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much -
Gladstone and HFNY founded the religion. We were amongst the first disciples.RaceBannon said:I don't recall being a Deboer guy early but I'll take credit
Liked his ridiculous winning percentage but I think I was originally Campbell
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I wanted DeBoer over Campbell, that's for sure.
But I wanted Aranda over DeBoer.
Aranda is still a much better choice than Campbell, who I never really understood all the manlove about. -
As the Redskins helmet buttfucking another Redskins helmet shows (FIRST!), I thought Deboer had the most upside of the 3.Mad_Son said:
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I think this is where I was, but I thought there was no way Aranda would have interest…TheHB said:I wanted DeBoer over Campbell, that's for sure.
But I wanted Aranda over DeBoer.
Aranda is still a much better choice than Campbell, who I never really understood all the manlove about.
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Reasonable take. Aranda was miles above Campbell in the pecking order.TheHB said:I wanted DeBoer over Campbell, that's for sure.
But I wanted Aranda over DeBoer.
Aranda is still a much better choice than Campbell, who I never really understood all the manlove about.
But like the great sage PGOS said...Stoops, DeBoer, or bust...in middle of November 2021 -
I was an Aranda guy first, Boner second, Campbell third. I still think Aranda is a good Coach, but Boner has just killed it so far.
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So you wanted Stoops, DeBoer as HC with Wilcox as his DC Or nothing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
LOL beating your chest over an "AGREE" post?PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
Gonna need you to link your big support to KDB. Accountability and shit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
HTH
If it was so easy to agree, we wouldnt have the vast majority of this board wanting Aranda and Campbell
HTH
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HillsboroDuck said:
So you wanted Stoops, DeBoer as HC with Wilcox as his DC Or nothing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
LOL beating your chest over an "AGREE" post?PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
Gonna need you to link your big support to KDB. Accountability and shit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
HTH
If it was so easy to agree, we wouldnt have the vast majority of this board wanting Aranda and Campbell
HTH
Hmmm.
I meant DeBoer as HC, who gives a shit about Wilcox. Try reading, you'll see I responded to an early post saying "hire DeBoer"
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If that’s what you wanted you could have just “Stoops, DeBoer or bust” but you said this clearly indicating your support for DeBoer was contingent upon one DC coming with him.PostGameOrangeSlices said:HillsboroDuck said:
So you wanted Stoops, DeBoer as HC with Wilcox as his DC Or nothing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
LOL beating your chest over an "AGREE" post?PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
Gonna need you to link your big support to KDB. Accountability and shit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
HTH
If it was so easy to agree, we wouldnt have the vast majority of this board wanting Aranda and Campbell
HTH
Hmmm.
I meant DeBoer as HC, who gives a shit about Wilcox. Try reading, you'll see I responded to an early post saying "hire DeBoer"
You’re the one gatekeeping KDB support in this thread and selecting these extremely weak posts as evidence that you were right while everyone else was wrong. -
We're doing this again? I can only beat my chest so many times before it starts to hurt.
Unless I have the timestamps wrong in my mind, @Kingdome_Urinals started the first Deboer thread after they beat UCLA. I was one of the first to post in it, but he started it and I recall that @gladstone himself, also one of the first to be all in, just bumped that thread recently recognizing his firstestness.
Not that it matters. I just typed all that but really, it doesn't matter.
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Got it, you can't read.HillsboroDuck said:
If that’s what you wanted you could have just “Stoops, DeBoer or bust” but you said this clearly indicating your support for DeBoer was contingent upon one DC coming with him.PostGameOrangeSlices said:HillsboroDuck said:
So you wanted Stoops, DeBoer as HC with Wilcox as his DC Or nothing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
LOL beating your chest over an "AGREE" post?PostGameOrangeSlices said:dnc said:
Gonna need you to link your big support to KDB. Accountability and shit.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are we at the stage of delusion where everyone pretends they wanted DeBoer?
@Gladstone
@RoadDawg55
@RaceBannon
@PGOS
And a few others were first and right
The rest of you?
Not so much
HTH
If it was so easy to agree, we wouldnt have the vast majority of this board wanting Aranda and Campbell
HTH
Hmmm.
I meant DeBoer as HC, who gives a shit about Wilcox. Try reading, you'll see I responded to an early post saying "hire DeBoer"
You’re the one gatekeeping KDB support in this thread and selecting these extremely weak posts as evidence that you were right while everyone else was wrong.
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I went on the podcast and said it to @JoeEDangerously's face!!
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I wanted DeBoer after he beat UCLA and I looked up his track record. I made a post or three about it.
That faded a bit after a bad loss or two. I liked Aranda better because of the P5 success, but Rhule set him up decently and the jury is still out on him.
I’m happy with DeBoer and think we got it right. He’s a very good coach. -
Damn, we were so close to hiring Campbell for a ton of money and sitting here right now at 5-7, with Morris as the returning starter, and trying to doog on the improvement and Campbell needing more time to get his players and system in.
In non-negadoog fairness, I think Campbell actually would have went 6-7 and lost to Haener in the Jimmy Kimmel bowl. -
Were we really that close? I thought the consensus was he only played us for a raise and was never really chinterested?WoolleyDoog said:Damn, we were so close to hiring Campbell for a ton of money and sitting here right now at 5-7, with Morris as the returning starter, and trying to doog on the improvement and Campbell needing more time to get his players and system in.
In non-negadoog fairness, I think Campbell actually would have went 6-7 and lost to Haener in the Jimmy Kimmel bowl.
