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Player dying the field in Cincinnati
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Lacrosse goalies have been required to wear a sternum/heart protector for a number of years. For K-12, it rolled down now to all players last year.chuck said:
I saw a lecture about chest impacts and how easily they can cause this at a west region little league conference back in the day. He cited a handful of cases, all youth, including one where the impact was from a plastic ball. All about the timing of the blow, not the amount of force.PurpleThrobber said:
Could very well be.RoadTrip said:Another C19 vaccination sudden death?
There’s also something known as commotio cordis which disrupts the cardiac rhythm after a traumatic collision.
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Fleenor was close to it. You just don’t know what you’re seeing unless you’ve been close.MelloDawg said: -
Thought maybe it could have been a blow to his throat but he wouldn't have run out of oxygen that fast to cause him to collapse. Heart attack or aneurysm makes more sense.chuck said:
I saw a lecture about chest impacts and how easily they can cause this at a west region little league conference back in the day. He cited a handful of cases, all youth, including one where the impact was from a plastic ball. All about the timing of the blow, not the amount of force.PurpleThrobber said:
Could very well be.RoadTrip said:Another C19 vaccination sudden death?
There’s also something known as commotio cordis which disrupts the cardiac rhythm after a traumatic collision.
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Rather be a tryhard than a complete fucking dumb ass.RoadTrip said:
Go fuck yourself tryhard.backthepack said: -
There’s room for reasonable people to have nuanced discussions on vaccines and associated risks and benefits.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
But seems way too fucking quick on the draw and projecting politics in a context where it’s not merited.
Guy got fucked up on a football field bad. That’s the ONLY conclusion one can draw at this time.
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RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
Fuck….. he could’ve had an undiagnosed heart conditionYellowSnow said:
There’s room for reasonable people to have nuanced discussions on vaccines and associated risks and benefits.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
But seems way too fucking quick on the draw and projecting politics in a context where it’s not merited.
Guy got fucked up on a football field bad. That’s the ONLY conclusion one can draw at this time.
My 12 year old son would be dead now if it wasn’t for the one doctor that found it and they were able to fix it via a open heart surgery
Even after he was diagnosed, there were multiple doctors and medical professionals that could not hear it.
And no….his heart condition was fixed over four years ago. -
An article I read made it sound like they waited to transport him so his family could come down from the stands. Maybe that's a good sign that they were able to stabilize him.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Also...is Hamlin alive?
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I get it JW, Snow and BP but it is undeniable what is happening to young people all over the world now. Why? What has changed in the last 2 years which would cause this spike in heart disease among other issues causing sudden death?HuskyJW said:RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
Fuck….. he could’ve had an undiagnosed heart conditionYellowSnow said:
There’s room for reasonable people to have nuanced discussions on vaccines and associated risks and benefits.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
But seems way too fucking quick on the draw and projecting politics in a context where it’s not merited.
Guy got fucked up on a football field bad. That’s the ONLY conclusion one can draw at this time.
My 12 year old son would be dead now if it wasn’t for the one doctor that found it and they were able to fix it via a open heart surgery
Even after he was diagnosed, there were multiple doctors and medical professionals that could not hear it. -
MaybeRoadTrip said:
I get it JW, Snow and BP but it is undeniable what is happening to young people all over the world now. Why? What has changed in the last 2 years which would cause this spike in heart disease among other issues causing sudden death?HuskyJW said:RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
Fuck….. he could’ve had an undiagnosed heart conditionYellowSnow said:
There’s room for reasonable people to have nuanced discussions on vaccines and associated risks and benefits.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
But seems way too fucking quick on the draw and projecting politics in a context where it’s not merited.
Guy got fucked up on a football field bad. That’s the ONLY conclusion one can draw at this time.
My 12 year old son would be dead now if it wasn’t for the one doctor that found it and they were able to fix it via a open heart surgery
Even after he was diagnosed, there were multiple doctors and medical professionals that could not hear it.
I don’t know of people collapsing at 1000% rate. I’ve never heard of anyone collapsing ever maybe you’re right but that sounds like a made-up statistic to me. -
Same thing happened to a Tulane football player about ten years ago named Devon Walker. He was unconscious on the field and they had to revive him there. He’s alive but in a wheelchair now. This one doesn’t look like a broken neck because he wouldn’t have been able to get up. Sadly it’s reminding me of a boxer who’s unconscious after a bout.
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These vax takes are fascinating as usual.
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Personally, I agree with you re: the problems arising from the jabs, and my first thought was wondering if this was related. That said, I LIPO considering the guy is possibly in life or death mode as we speak.RoadTrip said:
I get it JW, Snow and BP but it is undeniable what is happening to young people all over the world now. Why? What has changed in the last 2 years which would cause this spike in heart disease among other issues causing sudden death?HuskyJW said:RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
Fuck….. he could’ve had an undiagnosed heart conditionYellowSnow said:
There’s room for reasonable people to have nuanced discussions on vaccines and associated risks and benefits.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
But seems way too fucking quick on the draw and projecting politics in a context where it’s not merited.
Guy got fucked up on a football field bad. That’s the ONLY conclusion one can draw at this time.
My 12 year old son would be dead now if it wasn’t for the one doctor that found it and they were able to fix it via a open heart surgery
Even after he was diagnosed, there were multiple doctors and medical professionals that could not hear it. -
Jesus a lot of stupid in this thread
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You don't cancel a game because someone is taken to the hospital. Someone knows something and it resulted in the cancellation. Can only be one thing.BleachedAnusDawg said:
An article I read made it sound like they waited to transport him so his family could come down from the stands. Maybe that's a good sign that they were able to stabilize him.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Also...is Hamlin alive?
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He's in critical condition. 2 high profile people have had this happen in the last couple weeks and were in CC for about 24 hours before the machines were turned off; coach Leach being one of them.BleachedAnusDawg said:
An article I read made it sound like they waited to transport him so his family could come down from the stands. Maybe that's a good sign that they were able to stabilize him.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Also...is Hamlin alive?
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They were mainly trying to scare us all enough to make sure leagues were getting and training people on the use of defibrillators. The undershirts with chest pads became real popular around that time for youth baseball though. I saw them a lot at soccer too. I don't think those would have really helped much.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Lacrosse goalies have been required to wear a sternum/heart protector for a number of years. For K-12, it rolled down now to all players last year.chuck said:
I saw a lecture about chest impacts and how easily they can cause this at a west region little league conference back in the day. He cited a handful of cases, all youth, including one where the impact was from a plastic ball. All about the timing of the blow, not the amount of force.PurpleThrobber said:
Could very well be.RoadTrip said:Another C19 vaccination sudden death?
There’s also something known as commotio cordis which disrupts the cardiac rhythm after a traumatic collision.
Lipo. -
Surely you’ll be able to share those stats from a reliable source comparing them to a pre-2020 baseline then.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
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Maybe, but according to ESPN the coaches met and decided to go back to the locker rooms within a few minutes of it happening.89ute said:
You don't cancel a game because someone is taken to the hospital. Someone knows something and it resulted in the cancellation. Can only be one thing.BleachedAnusDawg said:
An article I read made it sound like they waited to transport him so his family could come down from the stands. Maybe that's a good sign that they were able to stabilize him.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Also...is Hamlin alive?
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Holy shit it’s so dumb.RoadTrip said:
He's in critical condition. 2 high profile people have had this happen in the last couple weeks and were in CC for about 24 hours before the machines were turned off; coach Leach being one of them.BleachedAnusDawg said:
An article I read made it sound like they waited to transport him so his family could come down from the stands. Maybe that's a good sign that they were able to stabilize him.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Also...is Hamlin alive?
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You must be new. Reliable sources aren’t needed for these folks.ntxduck said:
Surely you’ll be able to share those stats from a reliable source comparing them to a pre-2020 baseline then.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said: -
chuck said:
They were mainly trying to scare us all enough to make sure leagues were getting and training people on the use of defibrillators. The undershirts with chest pads became real popular around that time for youth baseball though. I saw them a lot at soccer too. I don't think those would have really helped much. </blockquoteGrundleStiltzkin said:
Lacrosse goalies have been required to wear a sternum/heart protector for a number of years. For K-12, it rolled down now to all players last year.chuck said:
I saw a lecture about chest impacts and how easily they can cause this at a west region little league conference back in the day. He cited a handful of cases, all youth, including one where the impact was from a plastic ball. All about the timing of the blow, not the amount of force.PurpleThrobber said:
Could very well be.RoadTrip said:Another C19 vaccination sudden death?
There’s also something known as commotio cordis which disrupts the cardiac rhythm after a traumatic collision.
Lipo.
So would the impact change the rhythm and potentially put the victim into cardiac arrest? The defib could shock it back? What about chest compressions. Would that work too? -
I looked up the math last year. The statistical probability of an elite athlete suffering sudden cardiac arrest is 1:200,000
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One is in this thread. Do your own fucking homework or dont and keep getting jabbed. Either way, I don't give a fuck what you want or think.ntxduck said:
Surely you’ll be able to share those stats from a reliable source comparing them to a pre-2020 baseline then.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said: -
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Got it. So you don’t. ThanksRoadTrip said:
One is in this thread. Do your own fucking homework or dont and keep getting jabbed. Either way, I don't give a fuck what you want or think.ntxduck said:
Surely you’ll be able to share those stats from a reliable source comparing them to a pre-2020 baseline then.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
Also lol if you think Mike fuckin leach was vaxxed at all. Dude probably didn’t even get his tdap -
You should keep going with this conversation and what you think the subject should be.RoadTrip said:
One is in this thread. Do your own fucking homework or dont and keep getting jabbed. Either way, I don't give a fuck what you want or think.ntxduck said:
Surely you’ll be able to share those stats from a reliable source comparing them to a pre-2020 baseline then.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said: -
You're one of the 3 dumbest posters on this site and bring nothing to the table. Thousands and thousands of facts and statistics have been provided to prove points you continue to ignore. Your head is so far up your ass you're simply not worth my time. The kid is dead and I hope his family finds peace.MelloDawg said:
You must be new. Reliable sources aren’t needed for these folks.ntxduck said:
Surely you’ll be able to share those stats from a reliable source comparing them to a pre-2020 baseline then.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said: -
This is the pre 2020 baseline.pawz said:I looked up the math last year. The statistical probability of an elite athlete suffering sudden cardiac arrest is 1:200,000
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Fuck guys, take that shit to the Tug right now.
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No they haven’t been.RoadTrip said:
You're one of the 3 dumbest posters on this site and bring nothing to the table. Thousands and thousands of facts and statistics have been provided to prove points you continue to ignore. Your head is so far up your ass you're simply not worth my time. The kid is dead and I hope his family finds peace.MelloDawg said:
You must be new. Reliable sources aren’t needed for these folks.ntxduck said:
Surely you’ll be able to share those stats from a reliable source comparing them to a pre-2020 baseline then.RoadTrip said:
It was a question not an opinion of fact. Sudden death heart attacks in young people all over the world is up statistically at alarming rates. Young people have collapsed and died on fields and courts over the last 1-2 years like never seen bofore. I think I read recently the rate of heart attack in young people is up close to or more than 1000%. Ignoring the reality and asking why is not smart.YellowSnow said:
Anyway, your camp’s stance will really gain traction if you make this event about the vaccine though. I can’t imagine why people don’t take it seriously.
