First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
So "compassionate conservatism" is the solution? No offense but that gets us the establishment, bigger government and war. I hope what you and the rest of the 97 are saying is give smater Trump a try. The Bush approach isn't the answer imo.
I'm a looser right-libertarian, I've got no electorally successful solutions to offer. Now that Trump orthodoxy has exhausted itself, I'd like to see DeSantis get a shot.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
Dive away. I'm sure your conclusions will be different than mine.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
Dive away. I'm sure your conclusions will be different than mine.
Just putting some actual numbers out their of the last 12 years. Trump has his part in last night but lets not pretend that the GOP establishment didn't play their part too.
Wow, how could I forget Youngkin? What an excellent example of your solution. He DeSantis and Lake are exactly the kind of politicians who need to be in charge. I became so disillusioned by Bush and then his ridiculous brother Jeb's attempt. I saw Trump bring the fight like Ronald Reagan but ignored his toxicity as most of you are pointing out. I suppose your argument is the only hope. If these people take the run, they will be demonized and the likes of the Bush establishment will try and destroy them. It's madness in my mind and at some point balkanization will be my only resort.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
So "compassionate conservatism" is the solution? No offense but that gets us the establishment, bigger government and war. I hope what you and the rest of the 97 are saying is give smater Trump a try. The Bush approach isn't the answer imo.
I'm a looser right-libertarian, I've got no electorally successful solutions to offer. Now that Trump orthodoxy has exhausted itself, I'd like to see DeSantis get a shot.
Thank you! This makes the most logical sense because what other option is there? I suppose I'm just a dumb fighter who sticks his chin out and asks, "Is that all you've got?"
I hear the "election denier" GOP Senate candidate in NV doesn't stand a chance. But here we are waiting to see if he beat Joey's rubberstamp last night.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
So "compassionate conservatism" is the solution? No offense but that gets us the establishment, bigger government and war. I hope what you and the rest of the 97 are saying is give smater Trump a try. The Bush approach isn't the answer imo.
I'm a looser right-libertarian, I've got no electorally successful solutions to offer. Now that Trump orthodoxy has exhausted itself, I'd like to see DeSantis get a shot.
Thank you! This makes the most logical sense because what other option is there? I suppose I'm just a dumb fighter who sticks his chin out and asks, "Is that all you've got?"
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
So "compassionate conservatism" is the solution? No offense but that gets us the establishment, bigger government and war. I hope what you and the rest of the 97 are saying is give smater Trump a try. The Bush approach isn't the answer imo.
I'm a looser right-libertarian, I've got no electorally successful solutions to offer. Now that Trump orthodoxy has exhausted itself, I'd like to see DeSantis get a shot.
Right there with you. I wanna be left alone, but I’m not being left alone. Just like Mel Gibson in the Patriot.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
Dive away. I'm sure your conclusions will be different than mine.
Just putting some actual numbers out their of the last 12 years. Trump has his part in last night but lets not pretend that the GOP establishment didn't play their part too.
Don't gloss over the fact Obama won re-election. Trump couldn't do it.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
Dive away. I'm sure your conclusions will be different than mine.
Just putting some actual numbers out their of the last 12 years. Trump has his part in last night but lets not pretend that the GOP establishment didn't play their part too.
Don't gloss over the fact Obama won re-election. Trump couldn't do it.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
Dive away. I'm sure your conclusions will be different than mine.
Just putting some actual numbers out their of the last 12 years. Trump has his part in last night but lets not pretend that the GOP establishment didn't play their part too.
Don't gloss over the fact Obama won re-election. Trump couldn't do it.
Thought exercise. Where would the Republican Party be today had we run Ron Paul against Obama?
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
Dive away. I'm sure your conclusions will be different than mine.
Just putting some actual numbers out their of the last 12 years. Trump has his part in last night but lets not pretend that the GOP establishment didn't play their part too.
Don't gloss over the fact Obama won re-election. Trump couldn't do it.
Didn't "gloss" over it, it was right there. Why so defensive? I've been onboard with DeSantis but I'm also not blaming all the woes last night on Trump. That's lazy.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
Dive away. I'm sure your conclusions will be different than mine.
Just putting some actual numbers out their of the last 12 years. Trump has his part in last night but lets not pretend that the GOP establishment didn't play their part too.
Don't gloss over the fact Obama won re-election. Trump couldn't do it.
Thought exercise. Where would the Republican Party be today had we run Ron Paul against Obama?
Mitt was the perfect GOP candidate. Who brought on Trump
I have no beef with Libertarians but they have no shot in America.
At least we terrorists actually discuss and argue amongst ourselves and think independently of each other. It's ok to not agree on everything.
It also let's the herd of leftists win more than they lose
This so much this. We are independent free thinkers who debate and disagree then get beer. But, it's also why we lose. Dems never stray from the orthodoxy. Ever.
First of all, there is still some LIPO involved here
Secondly, there were and are many great new candidates on the scene. From Kari Lake to Blake Masters to Tudor Dixon to Joe Kent and several others. These are high-quality people.
Thirdly, I love DeSantis but I disagree with the many on here who say Trump is not electable in '24. He most certainly is electable. We can agree to disagree.
Corruption runs rampant in America.
There were some great candidates. There were some duds. But, on balance, the GOP coug'ed it hard and you have to wonder why that is. I mentioned machine politics, which I think you termed corruption (we agree to some extent here). Why is Kari Lake in such a fight against that sack of turds Dem? It should not be close in this environment when almost all the issues are stacked in favor of the GOP, and yet here we are. I am not saying I have the answer, in fact I said that when I first started typing in the OP, but to not completely obliterate the Dems in this environment is a massive fail and I think a serious post-mortem of why needs to be considered here. I don't think it is all Trump, but I don't think it is all corruption or the media either. Miami-Dade county is as corrupt Dem machine politics as it gets, and Ron won it last night. Winners win. Losers complain about the refs.
TeamMAGA has now gone through four election cycles, and it's not been great for the last three. This might surprise @RaceBannon but I abhor style over substance. And yet, perhaps because of that, I can understand that mindset a little. "No mean tweets" is a funny meme because it gets at something true and dumb. But at some point, results matter. This isn't working anymore. Objectively, it appears completely reasonable to call Trumpism as an electoral flash in the pan. A political novelty. What the wildcat was to the NFL 10 years ago. If this keeps up, MAGA will be doing exactly what it accuses the mainstream GOP of doing: Losing for profit. "We got screwed!!!! Send money."
Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms. Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year. Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms. 65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected. Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm. The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020. Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
Dive away. I'm sure your conclusions will be different than mine.
Just putting some actual numbers out their of the last 12 years. Trump has his part in last night but lets not pretend that the GOP establishment didn't play their part too.
Don't gloss over the fact Obama won re-election. Trump couldn't do it.
Thought exercise. Where would the Republican Party be today had we run Ron Paul against Obama?
For style impeding substance, look no farther than the Libertarian Party or libertarian politicians. Ron Paul looks better and better on substance, but that twitchy little fellah had no shot nationally. Completely blanking on the 2016 LP candidate, but that dude had TBI.
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Obama lost 60 seats in 2010, his first midterms.
Obama picked up 8 seats in 2012. His reelection year.
Obama lost 13 seats in 2014, his second midterms.
65 net House seats lost under Obama.
GOP lost 6 seats in 2016 when Trump was elected.
Trump lost 40 seats in 2018, his only midterm.
The GOP picked up 14 House seats in 2020.
Trump 24 net loss in his 4 years.
GOP gained again last night. But it should have been more because Trump?
By your reasoning the DIMS should have dumped Obama and his policies but instead they're going full bore with Joey V. And they didn't get slaughtered last night but lets just blame Trump for that and not take a deeper dive into why the GOP didn't route Joey's party last night as history tell us?
It also let's the herd of leftists win more than they lose
I have no beef with Libertarians but they have no shot in America.