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  • FireTheJanitor
    FireTheJanitor Member Posts: 1,483
    Starting to think this guy might fucking suck! Go look at their schedule and tell me how they go 6-5 to get to 8-9 even… it’s just beginning 🍿

    What a loser
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,289 Founders Club
    He started off 10/10 passing for about 110 yards and a a TD in the first quarter.

    He went 5/18 for 78 yards the last 3 quarters.

    Imagine thinking this guy is HOF material. You might as well put Garappolo in there as well.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Jim Plunkett isn't in and he had a better career
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,404 Founders Club
    First off, I thought Russ would have a good to great season this year. That being said, I've always said that there's something about his wife that seems like a bad influence. Makes you wonder how much of this might be a derivative of her.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,634
    edited October 2022
    He is very talented, but not as talented as he thinks he is. Pete was masterful in how he handled Russ, until Russ started pushing back. He was on a HOF path here, but he's now he's got to do it with new people, and less skill. Wonder how the Russ/Hackett "partnership" is going over in the Bronc's locker room?...
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,289 Founders Club

    First off, I thought Russ would have a good to great season this year. That being said, I've always said that there's something about his wife that seems like a bad influence. Makes you wonder how much of this might be a derivative of her.
    My neighbor back in Seattle worked for a contractor that handled some big time properties including the house that Wilson rented when he first got to Seattle.

    Neighbor said Wilson was polite but also said the damage to the house that he was fixing indicated Wilson wasn’t quite the goody two shoes everyone made him out to be.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    He started off 10/10 passing for about 110 yards and a a TD in the first quarter.

    He went 5/18 for 78 yards the last 3 quarters.

    Imagine thinking this guy is HOF material. You might as well put Garappolo in there as well.

    He owns your 49ers
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    First off, I thought Russ would have a good to great season this year. That being said, I've always said that there's something about his wife that seems like a bad influence. Makes you wonder how much of this might be a derivative of her.
    My neighbor back in Seattle worked for a contractor that handled some big time properties including the house that Wilson rented when he first got to Seattle.

    Neighbor said Wilson was polite but also said the damage to the house that he was fixing indicated Wilson wasn’t quite the goody two shoes everyone made him out to be.

    I mean he married a pop star, I don't think the goody two shoe act is super believable. Not real surprising there.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Washed. That Super Bowl they won could've been accomplished with Trent Dilfer at QB. HOF needs to close the gates.

    I also think far too many players get in to their respective HOF in every sport, though. Nothing about Wilson screams generational talent or transformative player. I don't think he's ever been one of the top-5 qb's in a season during his career.

    Sorry but that's just dumb.

    2019 11-5 record, > 4000 yards passing, 8 yards an attempt, 31 TD, 5 INT, 106.3 rating, 2nd team All Pro, voted 2nd best player in the league by his peers. The list of QBs you can say were better than him that season is Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes.

    He's not top 5 right now, no question about that. Doesn't look especially likely he will be again. But the revisionist history is out of hand.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Baseman said:
    Yikes. I was wondering what you were thinking when I saw that tweet.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    dnc said:

    Baseman said:
    Yikes. I was wondering what you were thinking when I saw that tweet.
    Triggered
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,224 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Washed. That Super Bowl they won could've been accomplished with Trent Dilfer at QB. HOF needs to close the gates.

    I also think far too many players get in to their respective HOF in every sport, though. Nothing about Wilson screams generational talent or transformative player. I don't think he's ever been one of the top-5 qb's in a season during his career.

    Sorry but that's just dumb.

    2019 11-5 record, > 4000 yards passing, 8 yards an attempt, 31 TD, 5 INT, 106.3 rating, 2nd team All Pro, voted 2nd best player in the league by his peers. The list of QBs you can say were better than him that season is Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes.

    He's not top 5 right now, no question about that. Doesn't look especially likely he will be again. But the revisionist history is out of hand.
    Stats are for losers. There's a reason that Russ has never gotten an MVP vote. Nobody would have taken him over Mahomes, Lamar, Brady, Rodgers, and possibly even Dak, that season. At best he would be #5 in the pecking order for that one year.
  • Fishpo31
    Fishpo31 Member Posts: 2,634

    dnc said:

    Washed. That Super Bowl they won could've been accomplished with Trent Dilfer at QB. HOF needs to close the gates.

    I also think far too many players get in to their respective HOF in every sport, though. Nothing about Wilson screams generational talent or transformative player. I don't think he's ever been one of the top-5 qb's in a season during his career.

    Sorry but that's just dumb.

    2019 11-5 record, > 4000 yards passing, 8 yards an attempt, 31 TD, 5 INT, 106.3 rating, 2nd team All Pro, voted 2nd best player in the league by his peers. The list of QBs you can say were better than him that season is Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes.

    He's not top 5 right now, no question about that. Doesn't look especially likely he will be again. But the revisionist history is out of hand.
    Stats are for losers. There's a reason that Russ has never gotten an MVP vote. Nobody would have taken him over Mahomes, Lamar, Brady, Rodgers, and possibly even Dak, that season. At best he would be #5 in the pecking order for that one year.
    I tend to agree about stats, but if you take away stats and put it all on rings, there are some great QB's removed, and some not-so-great QB's admitted. Russ currently has the same number of rings as Rodgers, Brees and Mahomes, and one more than Fouts, Kelly (Jim not Brian), Moon, Tarkenton, and Marino, all HOF...Dilfer, Flacco and Foles all got one, and Russ was a lot better than that, over a long period. He won a lot of games the Hawks had no business winning (and lost a BIG one they had no business losing). The one stat that is irrefutable is W/L record, for me.

    The term "system QB" gets thrown around, in the negative. For me, they are all system QBs...they have to have guys design the plays, call the plays, and to block and to catch the ball. They also must have a strong D to win. Russ was derisively called a "game manager" for many years, he proved to be a lot more than that when he was in Seattle. IDK if he's HOF, but I appreciate what he did when given the opportunity, drama aside...
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited October 2022

    dnc said:

    Washed. That Super Bowl they won could've been accomplished with Trent Dilfer at QB. HOF needs to close the gates.

    I also think far too many players get in to their respective HOF in every sport, though. Nothing about Wilson screams generational talent or transformative player. I don't think he's ever been one of the top-5 qb's in a season during his career.

    Sorry but that's just dumb.

    2019 11-5 record, > 4000 yards passing, 8 yards an attempt, 31 TD, 5 INT, 106.3 rating, 2nd team All Pro, voted 2nd best player in the league by his peers. The list of QBs you can say were better than him that season is Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes.

    He's not top 5 right now, no question about that. Doesn't look especially likely he will be again. But the revisionist history is out of hand.
    Stats are for losers. There's a reason that Russ has never gotten an MVP vote. Nobody would have taken him over Mahomes, Lamar, Brady, Rodgers, and possibly even Dak, that season. At best he would be #5 in the pecking order for that one year.
    He was literally 2nd team all pro by the media and 2nd player overall by the players themselves. And one of two unanimous Tier 1 QB's by the coaches and FO types who contribute to Sando's annual QB tiers list. "Nobody" indeed.

    I like you but you're full of shit on this.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,289 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    He started off 10/10 passing for about 110 yards and a a TD in the first quarter.

    He went 5/18 for 78 yards the last 3 quarters.

    Imagine thinking this guy is HOF material. You might as well put Garappolo in there as well.

    He owns your 49ers
    Hurtful but true
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Russell Daniel Wilson is fucking terrible
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,224 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Washed. That Super Bowl they won could've been accomplished with Trent Dilfer at QB. HOF needs to close the gates.

    I also think far too many players get in to their respective HOF in every sport, though. Nothing about Wilson screams generational talent or transformative player. I don't think he's ever been one of the top-5 qb's in a season during his career.

    Sorry but that's just dumb.

    2019 11-5 record, > 4000 yards passing, 8 yards an attempt, 31 TD, 5 INT, 106.3 rating, 2nd team All Pro, voted 2nd best player in the league by his peers. The list of QBs you can say were better than him that season is Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes.

    He's not top 5 right now, no question about that. Doesn't look especially likely he will be again. But the revisionist history is out of hand.
    Stats are for losers. There's a reason that Russ has never gotten an MVP vote. Nobody would have taken him over Mahomes, Lamar, Brady, Rodgers, and possibly even Dak, that season. At best he would be #5 in the pecking order for that one year.
    He was literally 2nd team all pro by the media and 2nd player overall by the players themselves. And one of two unanimous Tier 1 QB's by the coaches and FO types who contribute to Sando's annual QB tiers list. "Nobody" indeed.

    I like you but you're full of shit on this.
    What a bully.

    I'll give you 2019 (although he was #5 in QBR that year), but will not back off on my belief that he's not top-5 of his generation. He was a good play-action and bootleg / run around and make it happen QB for several years. To my eyes it looks like he's lost his legs and he could never see the middle of the field.

    Outside of his win/loss record, which is set to rapidly decline, I don't see the argument for him being in the HOF.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Washed. That Super Bowl they won could've been accomplished with Trent Dilfer at QB. HOF needs to close the gates.

    I also think far too many players get in to their respective HOF in every sport, though. Nothing about Wilson screams generational talent or transformative player. I don't think he's ever been one of the top-5 qb's in a season during his career.

    Sorry but that's just dumb.

    2019 11-5 record, > 4000 yards passing, 8 yards an attempt, 31 TD, 5 INT, 106.3 rating, 2nd team All Pro, voted 2nd best player in the league by his peers. The list of QBs you can say were better than him that season is Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes.

    He's not top 5 right now, no question about that. Doesn't look especially likely he will be again. But the revisionist history is out of hand.
    Stats are for losers. There's a reason that Russ has never gotten an MVP vote. Nobody would have taken him over Mahomes, Lamar, Brady, Rodgers, and possibly even Dak, that season. At best he would be #5 in the pecking order for that one year.
    He was literally 2nd team all pro by the media and 2nd player overall by the players themselves. And one of two unanimous Tier 1 QB's by the coaches and FO types who contribute to Sando's annual QB tiers list. "Nobody" indeed.

    I like you but you're full of shit on this.
    What a bully.

    I'll give you 2019 (although he was #5 in QBR that year), but will not back off on my belief that he's not top-5 of his generation. He was a good play-action and bootleg / run around and make it happen QB for several years. To my eyes it looks like he's lost his legs and he could never see the middle of the field.

    Outside of his win/loss record, which is set to rapidly decline, I don't see the argument for him being in the HOF.
    Fair enough
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Russell Daniel Wilson is fucking terrible

    Daniel is a big improvement over his actual middle name lol. What made you go with that?
  • RTD
    RTD Member Posts: 837
    Broncos Nation, let's cry!
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    edited October 2022
    dnc said:

    Russell Daniel Wilson is fucking terrible

    Daniel is a big improvement over his actual middle name lol. What made you go with that?
    He’s playing like a Daniel right now
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    Russell Daniel Wilson is fucking terrible

    Daniel is a big improvement over his actual middle name lol. What made you go with that?
    He’s playing like a Daniel right now
    Damn Daniel
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,404 Founders Club

    Literally the least likable human being on this planet at this point. Jesus fucking Christ. What a complete fucking square. Fake injuries into “Wolverine Blood”.

    Did Russell Wilson sleep with your wife or something? You are certainly a man on a mission.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Please to be changing forum name to "Russell Wilson Jilted Lover Board"?
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,262 Founders Club

    Literally the least likable human being on this planet at this point. Jesus fucking Christ. What a complete fucking square. Fake injuries into “Wolverine Blood”.

    Cringey and not funny as usual. Also, are Wisconsin fans upset he referenced Wolverine blood instead of Badger blood?