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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,708 Founders Club

    Over the last 20 plus years Oklahoma has hired 3 coordinators. Stoops, Reilly, and Venables. Switzer was a coordinator

    2 things can be true

    Maybe not in Canada though

    I don't know how I got into this shitting on Oklahoma and Nebraska thing. I don't really care. If I was a big name coach I'd rather go to a program like UCLA or UW, at least until I have to wear a mask while game planning at a local bar with some hookers and blow. But that's just me.
  • Purple_Pills
    Purple_Pills Member Posts: 2,110
    edited September 2022
    Canadawg said:

    1) Nebraska is a top 15 job
    2) UW is a top 20 job

    25 years ago.

    Nebraska pissed away their advantages a long time ago. If they were a smart program , they would be on the phone with George Kleeeeeoooovaakofff to make the the future PAC-10, the PAC-11, so they can again raid the Central Valley and Inland Empire regions of California.

  • Purple_Pills
    Purple_Pills Member Posts: 2,110
    Canadawg said:

    haie said:

    Canadawg said:

    Well you could convince me it's on par with UW but that was my point anyways.

    Not sure they're given enough credit though they have huge support from fans, boosters and upper campus. If Oklahoma is considered a top 10 coaches destination then there's no reason to say Nebraska is more than a notch below that. Unless you are just basing it off of their record over the past decade which is irrelevant

    Neither Oklahoma nor Nebraska are getting anyone but coordinators or Mike Riley or a former player who had one great year in his entire career at the G5 level.
    OK is a legitimate blue blood what are you talking about? Nebraska is as well even though they've been bad lately

    UW is one of 13 that has actually made the CFB playoffs, plus we do have backyard talent. Nebraska doesn’t have either, plus their old system of non qualifiers and endless paid walk-ons has been nuked from space. On top of that, Nebraska pissed away their Texas recruiting ties by moving to the Big Sucks at Counting.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club

    Canadawg said:

    haie said:

    Canadawg said:

    Well you could convince me it's on par with UW but that was my point anyways.

    Not sure they're given enough credit though they have huge support from fans, boosters and upper campus. If Oklahoma is considered a top 10 coaches destination then there's no reason to say Nebraska is more than a notch below that. Unless you are just basing it off of their record over the past decade which is irrelevant

    Neither Oklahoma nor Nebraska are getting anyone but coordinators or Mike Riley or a former player who had one great year in his entire career at the G5 level.
    OK is a legitimate blue blood what are you talking about? Nebraska is as well even though they've been bad lately

    UW is one of 13 that has actually made the CFB playoffs, plus we do have backyard talent. Nebraska doesn’t have either, plus their old system of non qualifiers and endless paid walk-ons has been nuked from space. On top of that, Nebraska pissed away their Texas recruiting ties by moving to the Big Sucks at Counting.

    Good point. Oklahoma has lived off Texas recruits since Bud Wilkinson

    And still does. State of Texas is SEC now
  • Purple_Pills
    Purple_Pills Member Posts: 2,110
    edited September 2022

    Canadawg said:

    haie said:

    Canadawg said:

    Well you could convince me it's on par with UW but that was my point anyways.

    Not sure they're given enough credit though they have huge support from fans, boosters and upper campus. If Oklahoma is considered a top 10 coaches destination then there's no reason to say Nebraska is more than a notch below that. Unless you are just basing it off of their record over the past decade which is irrelevant

    Neither Oklahoma nor Nebraska are getting anyone but coordinators or Mike Riley or a former player who had one great year in his entire career at the G5 level.
    OK is a legitimate blue blood what are you talking about? Nebraska is as well even though they've been bad lately

    UW is one of 13 that has actually made the CFB playoffs, plus we do have backyard talent. Nebraska doesn’t have either, plus their old system of non qualifiers and endless paid walk-ons has been nuked from space. On top of that, Nebraska pissed away their Texas recruiting ties by moving to the Big Sucks at Counting.

    Good point. Oklahoma has lived off Texas recruits since Bud Wilkinson

    And still does. State of Texas is SEC now
    Nebraska thought they could take their share of that excess Ohio talent. Well, that excess Ohio talent would rather play in the SEC a few hours from home at basketball school Kentucky than they would Lincoln, NE.

    Nebraska would be smart to put out feelers to the Pac-10/12. With the new playoff format, those who jumped ship too early to the Rust Belt may regret doing so.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Houhusky said:

    I heard Jimmy Lake is available for immediate hire.

    Can probably call in some investment bank auditor to playcall for him too.

    Should fix things right up

    Depends on their academic prowess. Jimmy is probably waiting for Stanford or Harvard to open up
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,229 Swaye's Wigwam

    Canadawg said:

    1) Nebraska is a top 15 job
    2) UW is a top 20 job

    25 years ago.

    Nebraska pissed away their advantages a long time ago. If they were a smart program , they would be on the phone with George Kleeeeeoooovaakofff to make the the future PAC-10, the PAC-11, so they can again raid the Central Valley and Inland Empire regions of California.

    Whether or not Nebraska can be a power again is sort of irrelevant to this (poaching coaches). With the chasm in $ now happening between Big 10/SEC & everyone else, they can easily double salaries (maybe more). That includes assistant coach salaries, support staff, recruiting budgets, etc.

    With the exception of dudes like Petersen, who really aren't motivated by the money, every coach in every other conference is vulnerable to being poached. And the Petersens of the world are few and far between.

    It's already started a bit, but it’s going to be open season soon. Like others have said, DeBoner hasn’t done enough to warrant that interest yet. But imagine if a Nebraska or Iowa was to call and say they’ll pay him $6M/yr and double his staff budget. You think he’s turning that down?

    And even if Kalen for some reason loves UW and wants to stay, if he’s successful they’ll raid his staff.

    Pray for that Big 10 invite…
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,353 Founders Club
    edited September 2022

    Canadawg said:

    haie said:

    Canadawg said:

    Well you could convince me it's on par with UW but that was my point anyways.

    Not sure they're given enough credit though they have huge support from fans, boosters and upper campus. If Oklahoma is considered a top 10 coaches destination then there's no reason to say Nebraska is more than a notch below that. Unless you are just basing it off of their record over the past decade which is irrelevant

    Neither Oklahoma nor Nebraska are getting anyone but coordinators or Mike Riley or a former player who had one great year in his entire career at the G5 level.
    OK is a legitimate blue blood what are you talking about? Nebraska is as well even though they've been bad lately

    UW is one of 13 that has actually made the CFB playoffs, plus we do have backyard talent. Nebraska doesn’t have either, plus their old system of non qualifiers and endless paid walk-ons has been nuked from space. On top of that, Nebraska pissed away their Texas recruiting ties by moving to the Big Sucks at Counting.

    Good point. Oklahoma has lived off Texas recruits since Bud Wilkinson

    And still does. State of Texas is SEC now
    Nebraska thought they could take their share of that excess Ohio talent. Well, that excess Ohio talent would rather play in the SEC a few hours from home at basketball school Kentucky than they would Lincoln, NE.

    Nebraska would be smart to put out feelers to the Pac-10/12. With the new playoff format, those who jumped ship too early to the Rust Belt may regret doing so.
    Nebraska moving to the Pac-10/12 would make them more irrelevant
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    Oregon is a better job than UW. Has been for a couple decades. Only doogs will disagree.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter
    not buying nebraska is an awful job
    doogville said:

    Canadawg said:

    1) Nebraska is a top 15 job
    2) UW is a top 20 job

    25 years ago.

    Nebraska pissed away their advantages a long time ago. If they were a smart program , they would be on the phone with George Kleeeeeoooovaakofff to make the the future PAC-10, the PAC-11, so they can again raid the Central Valley and Inland Empire regions of California.

    Whether or not Nebraska can be a power again is sort of irrelevant to this (poaching coaches). With the chasm in $ now happening between Big 10/SEC & everyone else, they can easily double salaries (maybe more). That includes assistant coach salaries, support staff, recruiting budgets, etc.

    With the exception of dudes like Petersen, who really aren't motivated by the money, every coach in every other conference is vulnerable to being poached. And the Petersens of the world are few and far between.

    It's already started a bit, but it’s going to be open season soon. Like others have said, DeBoner hasn’t done enough to warrant that interest yet. But imagine if a Nebraska or Iowa was to call and say they’ll pay him $6M/yr and double his staff budget. You think he’s turning that down?

    And even if Kalen for some reason loves UW and wants to stay, if he’s successful they’ll raid his staff.

    Pray for that Big 10 invite…
    Can't see Iowa paying that kind of dough
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,353 Founders Club
    There will be no "DeBoer spotted at Tempe International Airport" posts coming from me
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    TheHB said:

    Oregon is a better job than UW. Has been for a couple decades. Only doogs will disagree.

    Records and Uncle Phil aside, their recent hires disagree
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    Oregon and UW jobs are pretty much equal Id say. Both top 15 nationally
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196

    Oregon and UW jobs are pretty much equal Id say. Both top 15 nationally

    UW is top 15 with a competent AD
    Cohen is competent, but she isn't great

    Given the history of UW ADs it could be much, much worse

    If she does better on NIL and the basketball team gets it shit together, we can upgrade her to "good"
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    Baseman said:

    Oregon and UW jobs are pretty much equal Id say. Both top 15 nationally

    UW is top 15 with a competent AD
    Cohen is competent, but she isn't great

    Given the history of UW ADs it could be much, much worse

    If she does better on NIL and the basketball team gets it shit together, we can upgrade her to "good"
    Disagree. She's the worst. Still talking the same Game Day experience bullshit she's been on for 15 years.

    Ok, maybe she's better than Turner. I'd welcome Babs back if it meant Jen's out. Sark>Ty
    Jen >>> Babs. Come on
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter

    Oregon and UW jobs are pretty much equal Id say. Both top 15 nationally

    UW is top 15 with a competent AD
    Cohen is competent, but she isn't great

    Given the history of UW ADs it could be much, much worse

    If she does better on NIL and the basketball team gets it shit together, we can upgrade her to "good"
    A little better than Tawd doesn't mean competent
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,353 Founders Club

    Oregon and UW jobs are pretty much equal Id say. Both top 15 nationally

    UW is top 15 with a competent AD
    Cohen is competent, but she isn't great

    Given the history of UW ADs it could be much, much worse

    If she does better on NIL and the basketball team gets it shit together, we can upgrade her to "good"
    Mr Cohen, is that you?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196

    Oregon and UW jobs are pretty much equal Id say. Both top 15 nationally

    UW is top 15 with a competent AD
    Cohen is competent, but she isn't great

    Given the history of UW ADs it could be much, much worse

    If she does better on NIL and the basketball team gets it shit together, we can upgrade her to "good"
    Mr Cohen, is that you?
    Ms Turner?
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Oregon and UW jobs are pretty much equal Id say. Both top 15 nationally

    UW is top 15 with a competent AD
    Cohen is competent, but she isn't great

    Given the history of UW ADs it could be much, much worse

    If she does better on NIL and the basketball team gets it shit together, we can upgrade her to "good"
    Mr Cohen, is that you?
    This would explain a lot
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2022
    He’s a natural for the Nebraska job. He knows that area for recruiting and is spectacular in the living room of big corn fed farm bois. He’s legendary in that part of the country. Probably coach for life if he wants it.

    Also, he’s probably figured out by now that Washington isn’t serious about football and is more into LGTBQ diversity, equity and inclusion than football championships. Not to mention playing in a sold out stadium every week regardless of any broadway shows or traffic on I-80 would be appealing.

    He has a tougher schedule next year and loses top talent. Make some hay while the sun shines and cash in.

    Plus, I hear his wife LOVES the Nebraska/SD area.