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Give me the arguments for opposing raising the age to 21 to buy a gun

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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I'm having a hard time opposing this. I'd also like to see the age to vote raised to 21 as well. Why am I wrong?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,167
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    RoadTrip said:

    You're not. Today's 18 year old is yesterday's 13 year old

    Pretty much

    Mom should still be able to go hunting with her teen daughter though

    I'm progressive like that
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    RaceBannon said:

    RoadTrip said:

    You're not. Today's 18 year old is yesterday's 13 year old

    Pretty much

    Mom should still be able to go hunting with her teen daughter though

    I'm progressive like that
    I'm sure there is an advertisement that depicts that very thing.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,839
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    Ditto. I'd make an exception if you are active duty and at least 18. Just getting a start on Starship Troopers.
    SFGbob said:

    I'm having a hard time opposing this. I'd also like to see the age to vote raised to 21 as well. Why am I wrong?

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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    SFGbob said:

    I'm having a hard time opposing this. I'd also like to see the age to vote raised to 21 as well. Why am I wrong?


    The age BS is the shiny object that moves them a step closer to eventual confiscation. It will be applied govt economic hardship until the endgame of ending gun ownership is reached. It’s always incremental with the left.



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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    46XiJCAB said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm having a hard time opposing this. I'd also like to see the age to vote raised to 21 as well. Why am I wrong?


    The age BS is the shiny object that moves them a step closer to eventual confiscation. It will be applied govt economic hardship until the endgame of ending gun ownership is reached. It’s always incremental with the left.



    I can't go there. I feel like I'm then staking out the very same position as the abortion supporters who won't oppose late term abortion for the same reasons.
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    46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
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    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm having a hard time opposing this. I'd also like to see the age to vote raised to 21 as well. Why am I wrong?


    The age BS is the shiny object that moves them a step closer to eventual confiscation. It will be applied govt economic hardship until the endgame of ending gun ownership is reached. It’s always incremental with the left.



    I can't go there. I feel like I'm then staking out the very same position as the abortion supporters who won't oppose late term abortion for the same reasons.
    I don’t trust DIMS. Remember when just accepting LGBTQ was enough? They attack the 2A on a regular basis. This isn’t like abortion. Where’s the unified front by GOP members to ban abortion ?
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,839
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    That's why I would connect it to raising the voting age to 21. Don't get something for nothing.
    SFGbob said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'm having a hard time opposing this. I'd also like to see the age to vote raised to 21 as well. Why am I wrong?


    The age BS is the shiny object that moves them a step closer to eventual confiscation. It will be applied govt economic hardship until the endgame of ending gun ownership is reached. It’s always incremental with the left.



    I can't go there. I feel like I'm then staking out the very same position as the abortion supporters who won't oppose late term abortion for the same reasons.
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    AlexisAlexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,993
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    I don't really have a problem with that either. I get the argument that they won't stop there, and obviously they won't, but if dems were smart, that would be proposed, stand alone. Any Rep that disagreed would be pounded. But of course, they'll add a bunch of other stuff in and it'll be fucked up like everything they do. And yes, it's stupid to me that you can have spent a year in Afghanistan or some other shit hole and then come home and not be able to buy a weapon, but I also think it's stupid that you also couldn't buy a beer. So let's make 21 the age for all, including voting, abortions, alcohol. I'm cool with that. Because like was said earlier, 18 years old now is like 12 or 13 back in the day.
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,839
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    Yeah, I started mowing the lawn at age 9 and no one thought anything about it. I started my son mowing the lawn at age 9 and people would literally stop their car and look like they were thinking about calling CSD. At age 12 I was doing field work, strawberries, beans and cucumbers with my 10 year old brother. Who made the lunches? Definitely not my Mom. My 12 year old cousin in Minnesota was driving the grain truck alongside the combine and then driving it into town to drop off the wheat at the grain co-op. Our neighbor, a divorcee would be out mowing her lawn on Saturday morning while her teenagers were sleeping in. That's how soft we have gotten and while their are exceptions, the average US white male is pretty much worthless. Snowflakes is actually understating the problem.
    Alexis said:

    I don't really have a problem with that either. I get the argument that they won't stop there, and obviously they won't, but if dems were smart, that would be proposed, stand alone. Any Rep that disagreed would be pounded. But of course, they'll add a bunch of other stuff in and it'll be fucked up like everything they do. And yes, it's stupid to me that you can have spent a year in Afghanistan or some other shit hole and then come home and not be able to buy a weapon, but I also think it's stupid that you also couldn't buy a beer. So let's make 21 the age for all, including voting, abortions, alcohol. I'm cool with that. Because like was said earlier, 18 years old now is like 12 or 13 back in the day.

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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    "Shall not be infringed"

    HTH
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,752
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    LoneStarDawg said:

    How about stop raising weak incapable children

    Gun safety training officially started this week with my 4yo

    Imagine living through the last 3 years and thinking we need less self defense

    Winner.


    Will they commensurately raise the age for enlisting in armed services? So many rabbit holes there ...

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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    pawz said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    How about stop raising weak incapable children

    Gun safety training officially started this week with my 4yo

    Imagine living through the last 3 years and thinking we need less self defense

    Winner.


    Will they commensurately raise the age for enlisting in armed services? So many rabbit holes there ...

    The "gun safety training" talk is hilarious. I'm
    Sure if the Uvalde guy just had the proper safety training we would have avoided that one
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    pawz said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    How about stop raising weak incapable children

    Gun safety training officially started this week with my 4yo

    Imagine living through the last 3 years and thinking we need less self defense

    Winner.


    Will they commensurately raise the age for enlisting in armed services? So many rabbit holes there ...

    No. Because they need guys who will do things that others with fully developed brains won't
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    Because mental health issues go away when you are 21. Duh.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,167
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    MikeDamone said:

    "Shall not be infringed"

    HTH

    Now find someone who was at the constitutional convention
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    USMChawk said:

    pawz said:

    LoneStarDawg said:

    How about stop raising weak incapable children

    Gun safety training officially started this week with my 4yo

    Imagine living through the last 3 years and thinking we need less self defense

    Winner.


    Will they commensurately raise the age for enlisting in armed services? So many rabbit holes there ...

    Have an exception for military personnel. 21 if you’re a civilian, 18 if you’re in the military. If you happen to become a veteran, and are still under 21, you have to have an Honorable discharge. No loopholes for a POS who gets drummed out.

    Apply this to the drinking age and voter age as well. I’d even concede this to the members of the Peace Corps since that too is federal service.
    See common ground. Hell maybe I am a moderate.
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