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  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    So the takeaway is the University of Washington can't compete with USC and Oregon in paying college football players to wear their colors?
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    RoadTrip said:

    So the takeaway is the University of Washington can't compete with USC and Oregon in paying college football players to wear their colors?

    It's more that Washington would rather look at everything from a participatory perspective. Words like "compete" and "money" make leadership shiver, and not in a good way.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,147 Founders Club
    TheHB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    So the takeaway is the University of Washington can't compete with USC and Oregon in paying college football players to wear their colors?

    It's more that Washington would rather look at everything from a participatory perspective. Words like "compete" and "money" make leadership shiver, and not in a good way.
    C'mon maaaan. Just get Gates behind proving a championship football program can be built upon a 100% plant based diet and the $ will flow.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    RoadTrip said:

    TheHB said:

    RoadTrip said:

    So the takeaway is the University of Washington can't compete with USC and Oregon in paying college football players to wear their colors?

    It's more that Washington would rather look at everything from a participatory perspective. Words like "compete" and "money" make leadership shiver, and not in a good way.
    C'mon maaaan. Just get Gates behind proving a championship football program can be built upon a 100% plant based diet and the $ will flow.
    Actually, a lot of Gates' humanitarian energy these days is spent on toilets (how to make them exist in places where sanitation is awful and infrastructure is unavailable). Since UW's revenue athletics are in the toilet, I see a huge opportunity for a branding/marketing collaboration.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    Do you think Brock would ever say that quiet part out loud? I don't and if he did it would be coated in so much coach, player, general big picture talking points I'm not sure most people would be able to read between the lines.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,513
    I honestly don't think Brock follows UW that closely anyways. The analysis is pretty surface-level. DeBoner has been successful, Lake sucked, recruiting has been shitty. There isn't any insight there that a random east coast ESPN writer could have provided after about a half hour of research
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,702


    Yeah, I didn't read that much into his comments. He basically said the focus is keeping Washington kids home and dominating California. He noted that the 5-star kids that USC wants will stay home. So what. How many five-star players does UW ever get from anywhere, let alone Southern California. Yet even still, there is so much talent there that UW should be able to stock its program with great players (a lot of them need a year or two in the program to develop -- that's going to be where DeBoner earns his keep).

    He didn't really say anything that was surprising or worrisome, imho. It was basically a story about how he's gotten to where he is and why he's at Washington. The dude is confident. And the article noted the staff booted Glenn down to director of player development while making the Oregon guy (Henkle?) director of recruiting and a former Michigan guy as director of scouting. Bruce Harrell's daughter is director of on-campus recruiting.

    So it sounds like the grown ups are in charge. (Except in the AD's chair, and until that changes, I'm not going to get my hopes up even though I'm doogin more than I have since Peterman first came on board.)

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club
    godawgst said:


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    Do you think Brock would ever say that quiet part out loud? I don't and if he did it would be coated in so much coach, player, general big picture talking points I'm not sure most people would be able to read between the lines.
    He was extremely candid at the end of last season. Under the right circumstances he would again. He would be measured so as to not inflict damage on Sam's UW career. But I have a hunch Sam will end up transferring out anyway.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,759 Founders Club
    godawgst said:


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    Do you think Brock would ever say that quiet part out loud? I don't and if he did it would be coated in so much coach, player, general big picture talking points I'm not sure most people would be able to read between the lines.
    He's been brutally honest the last 2 years. His ratings come from hawk talk so he doesn't give a fuck. You're not hiding anything when you're saying that Jimmy is "hard to watch" on the air.

    Fuck off.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,101


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    Isn’t he saying that out loud?

    We’re already getting DeBoer quoted in articles talking about NIL effectively is a mess and is going to impact recruiting

    By all accounts those that know football know that DeBoer’s staff can coach

    Everybody knows that Jen is in over her head with pulling the NIL stuff together and that miss us going to negatively impact recruiting until at minimum something changes

    It is what it is at this point
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    Isn’t he saying that out loud?

    We’re already getting DeBoer quoted in articles talking about NIL effectively is a mess and is going to impact recruiting

    By all accounts those that know football know that DeBoer’s staff can coach

    Everybody knows that Jen is in over her head with pulling the NIL stuff together and that miss us going to negatively impact recruiting until at minimum something changes

    It is what it is at this point
    Has Brock publicly said Jen needs to be fired?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,101

    Tequilla said:


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    Isn’t he saying that out loud?

    We’re already getting DeBoer quoted in articles talking about NIL effectively is a mess and is going to impact recruiting

    By all accounts those that know football know that DeBoer’s staff can coach

    Everybody knows that Jen is in over her head with pulling the NIL stuff together and that miss us going to negatively impact recruiting until at minimum something changes

    It is what it is at this point
    Has Brock publicly said Jen needs to be fired?
    I don’t see how that is good business for him to say that given Damon/Sam

    But there’s been a lot of signs of displeasure with UW
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    Isn’t he saying that out loud?

    We’re already getting DeBoer quoted in articles talking about NIL effectively is a mess and is going to impact recruiting

    By all accounts those that know football know that DeBoer’s staff can coach

    Everybody knows that Jen is in over her head with pulling the NIL stuff together and that miss us going to negatively impact recruiting until at minimum something changes

    It is what it is at this point
    Has Brock publicly said Jen needs to be fired?
    I don’t see how that is good business for him to say that given Damon/Sam

    But there’s been a lot of signs of displeasure with UW
    Its not good business, like I said he'll temper his comments. On the other hand he's a paid commentator.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    Huards have always been an overrated part of the UW program. The sooner Sam portalizes the better.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,440 Founders Club
    TheHB said:

    Huards have always been an overrated part of the UW program. The sooner Sam portalizes the better.

    I like Brock a lot. A whole lot. But for that writer to call him and Damon "Husky Legends" is kind of ridiculous.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    It’s not microwave popcorn.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,702
    I kinda had my reservations about Sam when we couldn't land elite receivers, or really any big time players that would want to play for an elite QB. Doesn't honey attract bees or some shit?
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,246 Standard Supporter
    dannarc said:

    I kinda had my reservations about Sam when we couldn't land elite receivers, or really any big time players that would want to play for an elite QB. Doesn't honey attract bees or some shit?

    Yeah, but shit attracts flies.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,682 Swaye's Wigwam
    dannarc said:

    I kinda had my reservations about Sam when we couldn't land elite receivers, or really any big time players that would want to play for an elite QB. Doesn't honey attract bees or some shit?

    McMillan for sure and probably Odunze both came to UW because of Huard to some degree. He's not going to be much if a recruiting help now that he can't win the starting job.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781


    This point Of view from Brock would have been banned by The dm staff. Reality or not.
    “It’s going to take a little bit of time,” Huard said. “And to me, the coaching won’t be the question. It will just simply be in time the ability to bring the talent when you’re competing NIL with USC and NIL with Oregon and the stability of some of the other programs in the conference.”

    So why do we need to have patience and not expect any progress for awhile? Oregon has a brand-new coach, but they don't need to wait to have recruiting success through NIL. Brock needs to go a step further and say the quiet part out loud.
    It’s not microwave popcorn.