Is this the worst class of the last 20 years?

chuck said:

LebamDawg said:

Here is Sark's full class and Scout's ranking



Batts
Fellner
Barnett
Crichton
Tucker
Trufant
Tivao
Mafoe
Shamburger
Tokolahi
Makaula
Pulu
Gaisie
Mahan
Boyce
Wallace
Robinson (Chris not Nate)
Price
Johnson

I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson

Amazing. Thing is that Sark had a lot of time (no early signing date) and was coming from SC, where he should've had ins with a fair number of guys who were willing to consider following him. One wouldve thought there were at least a few feunge guys who SV receuited but didnt wnd up offering.

There was no excuse. He simply didn't recruit.

Not to defend Sark but we went 0-12. That doesn’t make it easy to recruit.

RoadDawg55 said:

greenblood said:

theknowledge said:

Sarks first class had an average rating of .814. It was epically bad. This class is .857. Trufant and Price were really the only players from the 2009 class that made a positive impact. Most burned out before ever seeing the field. This class will have more than two contribute positively to winning. I’m certain of it.

That is a pretty big difference. But I did read somewhere that recruiting scores have been gradually inflated since Sark's first year. Many more 3-5 star players now than there were over 10 years ago. Am I wrong?

Everyone is a three star. It’s hard to sign a guy that isn’t 3 star now.

This. The Parkers, Green, and King would all be 2 stars or unrated (0 star) in the old system so you can't really compare this class to Sark's by looking at the avg rating. In fact, i think a player automatically gets 3 stars if they are offered by a d1 program. Most of Sark's lowest rated recruits from the 09 class had better offers than the guys DeBoer got (other than Dunn)

I've tried to listen to all you TBS haters (read: @RoadDawg55) and trust your "forget stars, look who else offered them" rationale. I know DeBoner had a mess to clean, but taking dudes with offers from Grand Valley State and Bucknell and whiffing on Vega is a black mark.

I know, I know LIPO. What other choice do we have? We're staring up from the bottom of the dumpster.

Quietcowskee said:

Nobody talking about Ty’s first class?

It’s beautiful when life imitates art.

Beno4Life said:

https://twitter.com/WestCoastCFB/status/1489360163114942466?s=20&t=WI4WogbQnkZKcf_S9ILJoA

I've tried to listen to all you TBS haters (read: @RoadDawg55) and trust your "forget stars, look who else offered them" rationale. I know DeBoner had a mess to clean, but taking dudes with offers from Grand Valley State and Bucknell and whiffing on Vega is a black mark.

I know, I know LIPO. What other choice do we have? We're staring up from the bottom of the dumpster.

Yeah, it’s not a good class. I don’t mind the twins tho. DeBoer really likes them. Dunn is good. Holtzclaw and Otton are also good. Otton will at minimum be a solid starter at TE.

Hopefully Fresno State has a few young players that develop and we can call them up to the big leagues.

I know how important recruiting is, but we get soft highly touted guys. I miss Washington dammit! We need good, tough football players with a couple elite ones mixed in. And we need a great QB.

I like the staff because they do seem to be no bullshit guys. I do think they get it but you are right, without the players, we will max out at 8-9 wins.

We can get any player that commits to Oregon State, WSU, MWC, and the WAC. I never understood why UW and other more prominent teams don’t have multiple staff members poaching any recruit worth a shit from them. That’s what I mean by evaluate better. The recruits are out there. Find them and get them. And don’t twist this and think I want a roster full of these type of recruits.