Is this the worst class of the last 20 years?
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Everyone is a three star. It’s hard to sign a guy that isn’t 3 star now.greenblood said:
That is a pretty big difference. But I did read somewhere that recruiting scores have been gradually inflated since Sark's first year. Many more 3-5 star players now than there were over 10 years ago. Am I wrong?theknowledge said:Sarks first class had an average rating of .814. It was epically bad. This class is .857. Trufant and Price were really the only players from the 2009 class that made a positive impact. Most burned out before ever seeing the field. This class will have more than two contribute positively to winning. I’m certain of it.
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Not to defend Sark but we went 0-12. That doesn’t make it easy to recruit.chuck said:
Amazing. Thing is that Sark had a lot of time (no early signing date) and was coming from SC, where he should've had ins with a fair number of guys who were willing to consider following him. One wouldve thought there were at least a few feunge guys who SV receuited but didnt wnd up offering.LebamDawg said:Here is Sark's full class and Scout's ranking
Batts
Fellner
Barnett
Crichton
Tucker
Trufant
Tivao
Mafoe
Shamburger
Tokolahi
Makaula
Pulu
Gaisie
Mahan
Boyce
Wallace
Robinson (Chris not Nate)
Price
Johnson
I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson
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You have no idea of the damageRoadDawg55 said:
Not to defend Sark but we went 0-12. That doesn’t make it easy to recruit.chuck said:
Amazing. Thing is that Sark had a lot of time (no early signing date) and was coming from SC, where he should've had ins with a fair number of guys who were willing to consider following him. One wouldve thought there were at least a few feunge guys who SV receuited but didnt wnd up offering.LebamDawg said:Here is Sark's full class and Scout's ranking
Batts
Fellner
Barnett
Crichton
Tucker
Trufant
Tivao
Mafoe
Shamburger
Tokolahi
Makaula
Pulu
Gaisie
Mahan
Boyce
Wallace
Robinson (Chris not Nate)
Price
Johnson
I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson
There was no excuse. He simply didn't recruit.
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Nobody talking about Ty’s first class?
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True.RoadDawg55 said:
Not to defend Sark but we went 0-12. That doesn’t make it easy to recruit.chuck said:
Amazing. Thing is that Sark had a lot of time (no early signing date) and was coming from SC, where he should've had ins with a fair number of guys who were willing to consider following him. One wouldve thought there were at least a few feunge guys who SV receuited but didnt wnd up offering.LebamDawg said:Here is Sark's full class and Scout's ranking
Batts
Fellner
Barnett
Crichton
Tucker
Trufant
Tivao
Mafoe
Shamburger
Tokolahi
Makaula
Pulu
Gaisie
Mahan
Boyce
Wallace
Robinson (Chris not Nate)
Price
Johnson
I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson
There was no excuse. He simply didn't recruit.
2012 and definitely 2013 were also damning statements on Sarks recruiting at UW. -
I imagine we will see weird HS classes for many schools from time to time because of the portal. Not excusing UW this year though
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Willingham's 2005 class was really bad, he went golfing since he was getting paid by both ND and UW. The man practically stole money from UW.
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This. The Parkers, Green, and King would all be 2 stars or unrated (0 star) in the old system so you can't really compare this class to Sark's by looking at the avg rating. In fact, i think a player automatically gets 3 stars if they are offered by a d1 program. Most of Sark's lowest rated recruits from the 09 class had better offers than the guys DeBoer got (other than Dunn)RoadDawg55 said:
Everyone is a three star. It’s hard to sign a guy that isn’t 3 star now.greenblood said:
That is a pretty big difference. But I did read somewhere that recruiting scores have been gradually inflated since Sark's first year. Many more 3-5 star players now than there were over 10 years ago. Am I wrong?theknowledge said:Sarks first class had an average rating of .814. It was epically bad. This class is .857. Trufant and Price were really the only players from the 2009 class that made a positive impact. Most burned out before ever seeing the field. This class will have more than two contribute positively to winning. I’m certain of it.
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I thought we had good classes after 2016 but they all sucked. Maybe these kids will turn out to be decent who the fuck knows
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I've tried to listen to all you TBS haters (read: @RoadDawg55) and trust your "forget stars, look who else offered them" rationale. I know DeBoner had a mess to clean, but taking dudes with offers from Grand Valley State and Bucknell and whiffing on Vega is a black mark.
I know, I know LIPO. What other choice do we have? We're staring up from the bottom of the dumpster.
