I legit wish they would make some kind of stupid pro development league and make the NFL just deal with the stupidity of all these big headed 17 year olds.
Let the top kids go get jobs in the football G league and lock down cfb back to how it was. There will still be tons of kids drafted from college if you take the top 10 percent of high-school kids out of college signing day.
Seriously. If the kids need to get paid at age 18 or 19, let the fucking NFL create that league.
A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.
UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.
A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.
UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.
UW doesn't accept transfer credits from a lot of CCs. Hope the new staff knows that.
College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
Minor league baseball games are also good for families. Cheap entertainment.
College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
Minor league baseball games are also good for families. Cheap entertainment.
Couldn’t pay me to watch MLB and this is the suggestion?
College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
Minor league baseball games are also good for families. Cheap entertainment.
Couldn’t pay me to watch MLB and this is the suggestion?
They have bouncy houses, a whiffle ball field, playground, etc for kids at Cheney. Mix in a few innings of the game. Dirt cheap. Great way to burn an afternoon outdoors versus sitting around the house with screaming kids.
A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.
UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.
UW doesn't accept transfer credits from a lot of CCs. Hope the new staff knows that.
A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.
UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.
UW doesn't accept transfer credits from a lot of CCs. Hope the new staff knows that.
yes, the issue is that the unlike MLB and the NBA ~ as a result of self imposed rules, NFL teams can not draft high school or junior high kids at this point... if they could and in fact were mandated by the courts that they had to change their rules to enable this because failing to do so is denying kids their economic rights then the kids would have the choice regarding being a pro player (paid) or an amateur (unpaid college) ~ and as a result, their argument that their restricted paid labor rights were being abridged then goes out the window.
Pro teams would then have developmental team facilities kind of the like the fall league in baseball or the CBA in basketball and college would be again able to "govern" "their" game "legally" ~ whatever that now means.
College conferences should sue the NFL to force them to change their rules regarding prohibiting teams from drafting people based on age and or college eligibility.
yes, the issue is that the unlike MLB and the NBA ~ as a result of self imposed rules, NFL teams can not draft high school or junior high kids at this point... if they could and in fact were mandated by the courts that they had to change their rules to enable this because failing to do so is denying kids their economic rights then the kids would have the choice regarding being a pro player (paid) or an amateur (unpaid college) ~ and as a result, their argument that their restricted paid labor rights were being abridged then goes out the window.
Pro teams would then have developmental team facilities kind of the like the fall league in baseball or the CBA in basketball and college would be again able to "govern" "their" game "legally" ~ whatever that now means.
College conferences should sue the NFL to force them to change their rules regarding prohibiting teams from drafting people based on age and or college eligibility.
Mother fucking this.
I'm so sick and god damned tired about hearing about the economic rights of the kids.
Let 'em turn pro outta HS and play in the NFL farm system.
College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
Minor league baseball games are also good for families. Cheap entertainment.
That it probably is. But does anybody really care who wins? Assuming not, then it's basically a trip to a city park to watch people play baseball. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but there's a reason it's so cheap.
College football and basketball are minor leagues which creates the problem. Based off of the people involved they don’t want it to be that. But they make so much money off of it it’s only fair to let the players make the money too. The other issue is if you tried to form an independent actual minor league nobody will watch and they don’t make money. The logos actually matter more than the players.
Exactly. Without the school uni, the players are worth nothing. If people want to argue the players need a bigger cut that argument can be mad, but don’t for a second think it’s the individual players generating the revenue.
Take the same players from Oregon and Washington, put them on minor league NFL teams from Eugene and Seattle and see how much money they bring in from attendance, TV, and merch. No one would care or watch. We know this because it’s been tried. But with better players than college players.
This is pretty spot on. The only people who attend minor league baseball games are people who (1) are insane fans and have little else going on their lives, or (2) are serious baseball fans and live in cities without a MLB team. It's a functional league and nobody gaF who wins whatever division. It's a talent farm, hence the name.
College football is different precisely because of the school and geographical affiliation. It's why every fan base hates when a local kid leaves to play against the local team. It's emotional and personal.
Some of the same principles apply to the NFL as well. If they players go too far and fuck up the league then they have nowhere to go. We all know there are people who have the physical talent to play at the NFL level who for whatever reason (usually they're fucked up people) aren't doing it. A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
Minor league baseball games are also good for families. Cheap entertainment.
That it probably is. But does anybody really care who wins? Assuming not, then it's basically a trip to a city park to watch people play baseball. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but there's a reason it's so cheap.
yes, the issue is that the unlike MLB and the NBA ~ as a result of self imposed rules, NFL teams can not draft high school or junior high kids at this point... if they could and in fact were mandated by the courts that they had to change their rules to enable this because failing to do so is denying kids their economic rights then the kids would have the choice regarding being a pro player (paid) or an amateur (unpaid college) ~ and as a result, their argument that their restricted paid labor rights were being abridged then goes out the window.
Pro teams would then have developmental team facilities kind of the like the fall league in baseball or the CBA in basketball and college would be again able to "govern" "their" game "legally" ~ whatever that now means.
College conferences should sue the NFL to force them to change their rules regarding prohibiting teams from drafting people based on age and or college eligibility.
Mother fucking this.
I'm so sick and god damned tired about hearing about the economic rights of the kids.
Let 'em turn pro outta HS and play in the NFL farm system.
JFC talk about a turn in fortunes. 4 years of getting treated like kings at a university with little spending money sounds a hell of a lot better than the life that farm system athletes live...also with little to no money in their pockets.
The overwhelming majority flame out and have nothing...no degree, no memories of quiet dorm room bangs with a roommate pretending to sleep a few feet away. No memories of threesomes with drunk, bisexual libtard chicks. No crashing parties and being BMOC.
One could go on all day about the remarkable life that college scholarship football players get to live. I would like nothing more at this point than for them to lose it and greet the much harder reality of an NFL run farm system.
yes, the issue is that the unlike MLB and the NBA ~ as a result of self imposed rules, NFL teams can not draft high school or junior high kids at this point... if they could and in fact were mandated by the courts that they had to change their rules to enable this because failing to do so is denying kids their economic rights then the kids would have the choice regarding being a pro player (paid) or an amateur (unpaid college) ~ and as a result, their argument that their restricted paid labor rights were being abridged then goes out the window.
Pro teams would then have developmental team facilities kind of the like the fall league in baseball or the CBA in basketball and college would be again able to "govern" "their" game "legally" ~ whatever that now means.
College conferences should sue the NFL to force them to change their rules regarding prohibiting teams from drafting people based on age and or college eligibility.
Mother fucking this.
I'm so sick and god damned tired about hearing about the economic rights of the kids.
Let 'em turn pro outta HS and play in the NFL farm system.
JFC talk about a turn in fortunes. 4 years of getting treated like kings at a university with little spending money sounds a hell of a lot better than the life that farm system athletes live...also with little to no money in their pockets.
The overwhelming majority flame out and have nothing...no degree, no memories of quiet dorm room bangs with a roommate pretending to sleep a few feet away. No memories of threesomes with drunk, bisexual libtard chicks. No crashing parties and being BMOC.
One could go on all day about the remarkable life that college scholarship football players get to live. I would like nothing more at this point than for them to lose it and greet the much harder reality of an NFL run farm system.
This is what I will never understand about the "pay me now, bitch" attitude for the 18- 19 year olds. The ones that are good enough to earn a living playing football are going get their payday in the NFL. The vast majority who aren't get to live the glory of being a D1 athlete at a major program.
I mean fuck, I got to the varsity sport thingy for 4 years, albeit with no scholarship (the male galley slaves didn't start getting schollies till the early 2000s) and it was the best Tim of my life in many respecks. Competitive sports are supposed to be fun. If you aren't NFL material, then as far as I'm concerned the free college thing it fair fucking compensation.
A lot of them are in prison. Does anybody care that there is a defensive end in Walla Walla or Sing Sing who could help the Hawks or could have played for Washington? No. You don't. He's not here. That's why you don't care.
You only care about players who help YOUR team, not players who aren't involved. The team part is more important than I think the average player realizes.
There's a DE at Walla? Well, fuck me! Yes, those are the guys we need, bring back the mercenaries. IDGAF, we need to recruit prisons then. We need big, fast, mean, and don't give a shit about stars and feelings guys.
UW doesn’t accept transfer credits from Walla Walla. No PE degree here, either. Not gonna happen.
UW doesn't accept transfer credits from a lot of CCs. Hope the new staff knows that.
Creepy was taking about prison. Not CC and Toalei Mulitauaopele says hi.
Here is the other thing; once the above happens then kids would have the choice and you could then make real progress in cleaning up the illegal payments that have been so rampant for the last 30 years.
It would mean replacing Emmert, the guy that has shown no desire to control anything except his paycheck and work to uncover the payments streams that are out there and turn over their findings to law enforcement in the jurisdiction that the payments take place in
The accused need to be tried and found guilty of tax fraud and intent to make undisclosed payments / a federal felony offense which is punishable by fines and jail time. There is no statute of limitations for tax fraud which would serve as a major deterrent to the crime for both the paying and receiving party in a lot of cases… just not worth the worry and concern
Fuck the slap on the wrist for recruiting violations for running an unclean program; the reality of potential fines and jail time is the hammer
No more wink wink would do a lot to clean up the sport and return the sport to amateur status
Yah, see? Simple, I solved it all ~ you can thank me later
yes, the issue is that the unlike MLB and the NBA ~ as a result of self imposed rules, NFL teams can not draft high school or junior high kids at this point... if they could and in fact were mandated by the courts that they had to change their rules to enable this because failing to do so is denying kids their economic rights then the kids would have the choice regarding being a pro player (paid) or an amateur (unpaid college) ~ and as a result, their argument that their restricted paid labor rights were being abridged then goes out the window.
Pro teams would then have developmental team facilities kind of the like the fall league in baseball or the CBA in basketball and college would be again able to "govern" "their" game "legally" ~ whatever that now means.
College conferences should sue the NFL to force them to change their rules regarding prohibiting teams from drafting people based on age and or college eligibility.
Mother fucking this.
I'm so sick and god damned tired about hearing about the economic rights of the kids.
Let 'em turn pro outta HS and play in the NFL farm system.
JFC talk about a turn in fortunes. 4 years of getting treated like kings at a university with little spending money sounds a hell of a lot better than the life that farm system athletes live...also with little to no money in their pockets.
The overwhelming majority flame out and have nothing...no degree, no memories of quiet dorm room bangs with a roommate pretending to sleep a few feet away. No memories of threesomes with drunk, bisexual libtard chicks. No crashing parties and being BMOC.
One could go on all day about the remarkable life that college scholarship football players get to live. I would like nothing more at this point than for them to lose it and greet the much harder reality of an NFL run farm system.
Exactly. Let them make a choice out of HS and stick with it. Sign the dotted line either way and own it. Go make 75k a year and live in Boise on the second most important football team in the city while everyone realizes you aren't actually cut out for the NFL and run you into the ground then onto the street like the NFL does
Dawgs had a good Wiesel year and 2 CP years. Other than that it’s been meh for 30 years. More or less since the Tommie Smith era. DB need to find a Tommie Smith for that Hybrid position.
these kids today want to be paid immediately with little to no commitment. The recruits don't even look at the free school angle. Look at all these poor suckers racking up 100K in school debt and then scream at the boomers for it. The youth today live in a total fantasy world. If these kids spent as much time on their commitment videos they would breeze through their half-baked classes that most players don't even attend. Most coaches eat shit for years before getting a good salary in coaching. Players can eat a little humble pie before making some dough.
these kids today want to be paid immediately with little to no commitment. The recruits don't even look at the free school angle. Look at all these poor suckers racking up 100K in school debt and then scream at the boomers for it. The youth today live in a total fantasy world. If these kids spent as much time on their commitment videos they would breeze through their half-baked classes that most players don't even attend. Most coaches eat shit for years before getting a good salary in coaching. Players can eat a little humble pie before making some dough.
This point always gets missed. Yes, the coaches get paid a shit ton, but they still have grind and work their way to the big pay day.
Again, there's huge fucking pay day for the kids in the NFL if they are elite at football. They should quit bitching about getting paid for for hypotheticals.
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Pro teams would then have developmental team facilities kind of the like the fall league in baseball or the CBA in basketball and college would be again able to "govern" "their" game "legally" ~ whatever that now means.
College conferences should sue the NFL to force them to change their rules regarding prohibiting teams from drafting people based on age and or college eligibility.
I'm so sick and god damned tired about hearing about the economic rights of the kids.
Let 'em turn pro outta HS and play in the NFL farm system.
The overwhelming majority flame out and have nothing...no degree, no memories of quiet dorm room bangs with a roommate pretending to sleep a few feet away. No memories of threesomes with drunk, bisexual libtard chicks. No crashing parties and being BMOC.
One could go on all day about the remarkable life that college scholarship football players get to live. I would like nothing more at this point than for them to lose it and greet the much harder reality of an NFL run farm system.
I mean fuck, I got to the varsity sport thingy for 4 years, albeit with no scholarship (the male galley slaves didn't start getting schollies till the early 2000s) and it was the best Tim of my life in many respecks. Competitive sports are supposed to be fun. If you aren't NFL material, then as far as I'm concerned the free college thing it fair fucking compensation.
It would mean replacing Emmert, the guy that has shown no desire to control anything except his paycheck and work to uncover the payments streams that are out there and turn over their findings to law enforcement in the jurisdiction that the payments take place in
The accused need to be tried and found guilty of tax fraud and intent to make undisclosed payments / a federal felony offense which is punishable by fines and jail time. There is no statute of limitations for tax fraud which would serve as a major deterrent to the crime for both the paying and receiving party in a lot of cases… just not worth the worry and concern
Fuck the slap on the wrist for recruiting violations for running an unclean program; the reality of potential fines and jail time is the hammer
No more wink wink would do a lot to clean up the sport and return the sport to amateur status
Yah, see? Simple, I solved it all ~ you can thank me later
Again, there's huge fucking pay day for the kids in the NFL if they are elite at football. They should quit bitching about getting paid for for hypotheticals.