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Has any coach failed faster than DeBoer?

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam
    Canadawg said:

    Oline was good in passing downs and bad in run downs right? I dont know enough to say why that is but it could be Donovan influence.

    The Oline was good on pass downs in 2020. They were horrific from the start in 2021...Sark OL levels of bad. Maybe worse.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Gladstone said:

    1. I'm really disappointed Huff was retained, although people smarter at football than me are defending it on Twitter and elsewhere. I agree with Race's long held (and now paradoxical) theory that it's all about the HC. If Huff sucks again, this shit is on DeBoer and DeBoer alone.

    2. Part of me thinks there's some reverse psychology going on with this thread and Race's extremely, extremely pro-Lake posts and threads the past two years. I'm here for it.

    People smarter than you about football loved the Lake hire too. After a couple decades of me being right, I don’t think those smarter about football than me are very smart.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    The red flag was Jimmy wanting the fat soft seniors to start. Gaard, Rosengarten, Hatchet, and MM are much better prospects. Who will now get a proper OC.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    dnc said:

    I thought the assistants didn't matter and it's just about the HC?

    I thought hiring Donovan let you know that Jimmy wasn't the guy?

    Huff failed under Petersen for three years too

    Clearly he sucks regardless
    On the one hand, you're dead right about Huff.

    On the other hand, this is a complete 180 vs. your early attitude toward Lake. Because I am wrong about football 100% of the tim, I was one of the few people on your "give Lake a chance" bandwagon. Even through Donovan at OC and Greggers at DC, you were Mr. It's All The Head Coach Anyway.

    So either ignoring all of the Lake staff hire warning signs taught you a huge lesson* or you're Fudgie levels of UW bipolar.


    *If this happened, let us know, as it would be the first tim in Hardcore Husky history that somebody learned from their shit take instead of doubling down.
    Up to even a couple of months ago Pappy Race was on the full blown LIPO train with Jimmy Lake

    Keep on running fake narratives from 15 years ago to make yourself eel better while you’re busy contradicting yourself in real time
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I thought the assistants didn't matter and it's just about the HC?

    I thought hiring Donovan let you know that Jimmy wasn't the guy?

    Huff failed under Petersen for three years too

    Clearly he sucks regardless
    On the one hand, you're dead right about Huff.

    On the other hand, this is a complete 180 vs. your early attitude toward Lake. Because I am wrong about football 100% of the tim, I was one of the few people on your "give Lake a chance" bandwagon. Even through Donovan at OC and Greggers at DC, you were Mr. It's All The Head Coach Anyway.

    So either ignoring all of the Lake staff hire warning signs taught you a huge lesson* or you're Fudgie levels of UW bipolar.


    *If this happened, let us know, as it would be the first tim in Hardcore Husky history that somebody learned from their shit take instead of doubling down.
    Up to even a couple of months ago Pappy Race was on the full blown LIPO train with Jimmy Lake

    Keep on running fake narratives from 15 years ago to make yourself eel better while you’re busy contradicting yourself in real time
    The only grudge more fun to watch than Race with Huff, is you with Race.
    I don’t really have a grudge with Race

    Smoke weed and talk shit like Uncle Race is legendary

    But he’s not that person anymore …

    I only let Race have it in 2 different scenarios:

    1) when he has comically bad takes like he did with Jimmy when the red flags accumulated and

    2) when he spins stuff from 15 years ago to try to undermine me

    Otherwise I’ll give him as much space to live in his glory days
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,264

    Gladstone said:

    1. I'm really disappointed Huff was retained, although people smarter at football than me are defending it on Twitter and elsewhere. I agree with Race's long held (and now paradoxical) theory that it's all about the HC. If Huff sucks again, this shit is on DeBoer and DeBoer alone.

    2. Part of me thinks there's some reverse psychology going on with this thread and Race's extremely, extremely pro-Lake posts and threads the past two years. I'm here for it.

    People smarter than you about football loved the Lake hire too. After a couple decades of me being right, I don’t think those smarter about football than me are very smart.
    So brave of you to say ✊
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited December 2021
    Canadawg said:

    Gladstone said:

    1. I'm really disappointed Huff was retained, although people smarter at football than me are defending it on Twitter and elsewhere. I agree with Race's long held (and now paradoxical) theory that it's all about the HC. If Huff sucks again, this shit is on DeBoer and DeBoer alone.

    2. Part of me thinks there's some reverse psychology going on with this thread and Race's extremely, extremely pro-Lake posts and threads the past two years. I'm here for it.

    People smarter than you about football loved the Lake hire too. After a couple decades of me being right, I don’t think those smarter about football than me are very smart.
    So brave of you to say ✊
    Truth is never brave to say, it’s just the right thing to do. ✊🏾
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I thought the assistants didn't matter and it's just about the HC?

    I thought hiring Donovan let you know that Jimmy wasn't the guy?

    Huff failed under Petersen for three years too

    Clearly he sucks regardless
    On the one hand, you're dead right about Huff.

    On the other hand, this is a complete 180 vs. your early attitude toward Lake. Because I am wrong about football 100% of the tim, I was one of the few people on your "give Lake a chance" bandwagon. Even through Donovan at OC and Greggers at DC, you were Mr. It's All The Head Coach Anyway.

    So either ignoring all of the Lake staff hire warning signs taught you a huge lesson* or you're Fudgie levels of UW bipolar.


    *If this happened, let us know, as it would be the first tim in Hardcore Husky history that somebody learned from their shit take instead of doubling down.
    Up to even a couple of months ago Pappy Race was on the full blown LIPO train with Jimmy Lake

    Keep on running fake narratives from 15 years ago to make yourself eel better while you’re busy contradicting yourself in real time
    The only grudge more fun to watch than Race with Huff, is you with Race.
    I don’t really have a grudge with Race

    Smoke weed and talk shit like Uncle Race is legendary

    But he’s not that person anymore …

    I only let Race have it in 2 different scenarios:

    1) when he has comically bad takes like he did with Jimmy when the red flags accumulated and

    2) when he spins stuff from 15 years ago to try to undermine me

    Otherwise I’ll give him as much space to live in his glory days
    You got the mountain west program of your dreams

    Celebrate
  • PasadenaHuskyFan
    PasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I thought the assistants didn't matter and it's just about the HC?

    I thought hiring Donovan let you know that Jimmy wasn't the guy?

    Huff failed under Petersen for three years too

    Clearly he sucks regardless
    On the one hand, you're dead right about Huff.

    On the other hand, this is a complete 180 vs. your early attitude toward Lake. Because I am wrong about football 100% of the tim, I was one of the few people on your "give Lake a chance" bandwagon. Even through Donovan at OC and Greggers at DC, you were Mr. It's All The Head Coach Anyway.

    So either ignoring all of the Lake staff hire warning signs taught you a huge lesson* or you're Fudgie levels of UW bipolar.


    *If this happened, let us know, as it would be the first tim in Hardcore Husky history that somebody learned from their shit take instead of doubling down.
    Up to even a couple of months ago Pappy Race was on the full blown LIPO train with Jimmy Lake

    Keep on running fake narratives from 15 years ago to make yourself eel better while you’re busy contradicting yourself in real time
    The only grudge more fun to watch than Race with Huff, is you with Race.
    I don’t really have a grudge with Race

    Smoke weed and talk shit like Uncle Race is legendary

    But he’s not that person anymore …

    I only let Race have it in 2 different scenarios:

    1) when he has comically bad takes like he did with Jimmy when the red flags accumulated and

    2) when he spins stuff from 15 years ago to try to undermine me

    Otherwise I’ll give him as much space to live in his glory days
    You got the mountain west program of your dreams

    Celebrate

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I thought the assistants didn't matter and it's just about the HC?

    I thought hiring Donovan let you know that Jimmy wasn't the guy?

    Huff failed under Petersen for three years too

    Clearly he sucks regardless
    On the one hand, you're dead right about Huff.

    On the other hand, this is a complete 180 vs. your early attitude toward Lake. Because I am wrong about football 100% of the tim, I was one of the few people on your "give Lake a chance" bandwagon. Even through Donovan at OC and Greggers at DC, you were Mr. It's All The Head Coach Anyway.

    So either ignoring all of the Lake staff hire warning signs taught you a huge lesson* or you're Fudgie levels of UW bipolar.


    *If this happened, let us know, as it would be the first tim in Hardcore Husky history that somebody learned from their shit take instead of doubling down.
    Up to even a couple of months ago Pappy Race was on the full blown LIPO train with Jimmy Lake

    Keep on running fake narratives from 15 years ago to make yourself eel better while you’re busy contradicting yourself in real time
    The only grudge more fun to watch than Race with Huff, is you with Race.
    I don’t really have a grudge with Race

    Smoke weed and talk shit like Uncle Race is legendary

    But he’s not that person anymore …

    I only let Race have it in 2 different scenarios:

    1) when he has comically bad takes like he did with Jimmy when the red flags accumulated and

    2) when he spins stuff from 15 years ago to try to undermine me

    Otherwise I’ll give him as much space to live in his glory days
    You got the mountain west program of your dreams

    Celebrate
    a mountain west program just won the pac 12 and blew out oregon twice in three weeks.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club
    Being Utah is a lifetime dream


    Jen knows her audience
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    I wanted Lake to succeed

    I want boner to succeed

    Huff has sucked for years

    No need to over think it. Keeping him is a huge red flag.

    If folks disagree that's fine.

    If you've hated Huff for years, why did you chin this post from July 2019?

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60967/huff-the-goat/p1
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

    I wanted Lake to succeed

    I want boner to succeed

    Huff has sucked for years

    No need to over think it. Keeping him is a huge red flag.

    If folks disagree that's fine.

    If you've hated Huff for years, why did you chin this post from July 2019?

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60967/huff-the-goat/p1
    Because I've watched them play under Huff

    JFC
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,694
    I thought James came from the MW(Kent State) type conference? I know you hated him also, however, this may be our strike lightning every 40 yrs type hire! If not, we'll Doog and moan for another 40...
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I thought the assistants didn't matter and it's just about the HC?

    I thought hiring Donovan let you know that Jimmy wasn't the guy?

    Huff failed under Petersen for three years too

    Clearly he sucks regardless
    On the one hand, you're dead right about Huff.

    On the other hand, this is a complete 180 vs. your early attitude toward Lake. Because I am wrong about football 100% of the tim, I was one of the few people on your "give Lake a chance" bandwagon. Even through Donovan at OC and Greggers at DC, you were Mr. It's All The Head Coach Anyway.

    So either ignoring all of the Lake staff hire warning signs taught you a huge lesson* or you're Fudgie levels of UW bipolar.


    *If this happened, let us know, as it would be the first tim in Hardcore Husky history that somebody learned from their shit take instead of doubling down.
    Up to even a couple of months ago Pappy Race was on the full blown LIPO train with Jimmy Lake

    Keep on running fake narratives from 15 years ago to make yourself eel better while you’re busy contradicting yourself in real time
    The only grudge more fun to watch than Race with Huff, is you with Race.
    I don’t really have a grudge with Race

    Smoke weed and talk shit like Uncle Race is legendary

    But he’s not that person anymore …

    I only let Race have it in 2 different scenarios:

    1) when he has comically bad takes like he did with Jimmy when the red flags accumulated and

    2) when he spins stuff from 15 years ago to try to undermine me

    Otherwise I’ll give him as much space to live in his glory days
    You got the mountain west program of your dreams

    Celebrate
    I already have that in TCU … nice try Gramps
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    I wanted Lake to succeed

    I want boner to succeed

    Huff has sucked for years

    No need to over think it. Keeping him is a huge red flag.

    If folks disagree that's fine.

    If you've hated Huff for years, why did you chin this post from July 2019?

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60967/huff-the-goat/p1
    If you're going to go after Race take him to task for his shitty "LIPO with Jimmy" takes, while the program was on fire this summer.

    But he's been the OG Huff hater. And irregardless Huff's recruiting has never been in question.
  • PasadenaHuskyFan
    PasadenaHuskyFan Member Posts: 611
    Yup race seems to insist that recruiting doesn’t matter which is fucking stupid no matter how you look at it. Of COURSE coaching and on field results also matter.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Haener couldn’t quite kill the Bored, so Huff now gets a shot to finish
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    Its a huge deal but rationalize away mountain west fans

    If huff secures conerly does your opinion change?
    Mine doesn't.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    dnc said:

    I thought the assistants didn't matter and it's just about the HC?

    I thought hiring Donovan let you know that Jimmy wasn't the guy?

    Huff failed under Petersen for three years too

    Clearly he sucks regardless
    On the one hand, you're dead right about Huff.

    On the other hand, this is a complete 180 vs. your early attitude toward Lake. Because I am wrong about football 100% of the tim, I was one of the few people on your "give Lake a chance" bandwagon. Even through Donovan at OC and Greggers at DC, you were Mr. It's All The Head Coach Anyway.

    So either ignoring all of the Lake staff hire warning signs taught you a huge lesson* or you're Fudgie levels of UW bipolar.


    *If this happened, let us know, as it would be the first tim in Hardcore Husky history that somebody learned from their shit take instead of doubling down.
    Up to even a couple of months ago Pappy Race was on the full blown LIPO train with Jimmy Lake

    Keep on running fake narratives from 15 years ago to make yourself eel better while you’re busy contradicting yourself in real time
    The only grudge more fun to watch than Race with Huff, is you with Race.
    I don’t really have a grudge with Race

    Smoke weed and talk shit like Uncle Race is legendary

    But he’s not that person anymore …

    I only let Race have it in 2 different scenarios:

    1) when he has comically bad takes like he did with Jimmy when the red flags accumulated and

    2) when he spins stuff from 15 years ago to try to undermine me

    Otherwise I’ll give him as much space to live in his glory days
    Okay Boomer/XGenr/Millennial.

    Ageist Hate is the Best Hate.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    I wanted Lake to succeed

    I want boner to succeed

    Huff has sucked for years

    No need to over think it. Keeping him is a huge red flag.

    If folks disagree that's fine.

    If you've hated Huff for years, why did you chin this post from July 2019?

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/60967/huff-the-goat/p1
    If you're going to go after Race take him to task for his shitty "LIPO with Jimmy" takes, while the program was on fire this summer.

    But he's been the OG Huff hater. And irregardless Huff's recruiting has never been in question.
    Yeah, I saw that going back years, so I went with the low hanging fruit about chinning recruiting rankings

    I have a lot of shitty Lake takes, too, so I'm not playing that game
  • MobeyB4Assholes
    MobeyB4Assholes Member Posts: 983
    This bored is always amusing as everyone tries to one up their skepticism.