Yeah it’s getting concerning. No big hires (unless you want to count the Michigan guy, not really a coach though). No recruit flips, several decommits, filling the staff with Fresno retreads. If you can’t recruit coaches you probably can’t recruit players. Not optimistic anymore.
Looks like we’re bringing #faithfamilyfootball , in that order, to Montlake! Might as well add Clay to the staff at this point, lord knows we have positions available
I think @sonics1993 mentioned his concern that a lot of mwc coaches just schlep all their mwc underlings with them to the next level. Whelp, doogitup.gif for being Fresno State North.
I think @sonics1993 mentioned his concern that a lot of mwc coaches just schlep all their mwc underlings with them to the next level. Whelp, doogitup.gif for being Fresno State North.
Yup. We are on Day 14 with Kalen, and this guy doesn't even have half his staff put together, had three decommits, no commits, and will most likely have 6-8 players transfer out before the winter Quarter. Great start
I think @sonics1993 mentioned his concern that a lot of mwc coaches just schlep all their mwc underlings with them to the next level. Whelp, doogitup.gif for being Fresno State North.
Yup. We are on Day 14 with Kalen, and this guy doesn't even have half his staff put together, had three decommits, no commits, and will most likely have 6-8 players transfer out before the winter Quarter. Great start
Not having a staff in place is a bit concerning but the kids leaving agreed to play for Pete or Jimmy. KD gave them his speech and a bunch want out. Fine. The team just finished 4-8 and rolled over for Wazzu and took it up the ass. That’s enough for me to be fine with guys taking off. They all might be fine players somewhere else but they weren’t going to be that here. Good luck and peace out.
I think @sonics1993 mentioned his concern that a lot of mwc coaches just schlep all their mwc underlings with them to the next level. Whelp, doogitup.gif for being Fresno State North.
Yup. We are on Day 14 with Kalen, and this guy doesn't even have half his staff put together, had three decommits, no commits, and will most likely have 6-8 players transfer out before the winter Quarter. Great start
Not having a staff in place is a bit concerning but the kids leaving agreed to play for Pete or Jimmy. KD gave them his speech and a bunch want out. Fine. The team just finished 4-8 and rolled over for Wazzu and took it up the ass. That’s enough for me to be fine with guys taking off. They all might be fine players somewhere else but they weren’t going to be that here. Good luck and peace out.
That's fine, but you better be able to recruit to replace those players, and with the staff looking like it will be mostly his Fresno State staff, I have concerns about whether he will be able to do that.
I think @sonics1993 mentioned his concern that a lot of mwc coaches just schlep all their mwc underlings with them to the next level. Whelp, doogitup.gif for being Fresno State North.
Yup. We are on Day 14 with Kalen, and this guy doesn't even have half his staff put together, had three decommits, no commits, and will most likely have 6-8 players transfer out before the winter Quarter. Great start
in my view we needed to immediately offer to grossly overpay (and I mean really overpay) to get a big time DC and OC right out of the gate in order to then also attract the other key recruiter / position coaches to create ignition / none of which did we do.
Of course if we were really up for overpaying the initial hires at OC and DC shouldn’t we have just done that to get a high level established HC?
Failing to do that then now means that we are in the double digits range of levels of attractiveness for the remaining coaching pool…. In other words, a giant uphill battle that is now not going well. No big surprise in that hiring a bright but mid level coach is a tenuous move at best in the first place, especially for a program with a known dead woman walking as the AD
Is anyone other than the AD truly surprised that the supporting coaching staff is going to wind up being a bunch of up and coming guys from mid America conferences?
As of the coaching change we were ranked right behind WSU in recruiting (78th?) and just for comparison, Fresno was ranked 98th / these guys are going to be our recruiters?
I place this debacle at the feet of the gutless and clueless AD for again demonstrating an obvious failure to understand the dynamics of how to build a successful program
in my view we needed to immediately offer to grossly overpay (and I mean really overpay) to get a big time DC and OC right out of the gate in order to then also attract the other key recruiter / position coaches to create ignition / none of which did we do.
Of course if we were really up for overpaying the initial hires at OC and DC shouldn’t we have just done that to get a high level established HC?
UW once hired Tyrone Willingham. So Fuck Yes, UW will waste umpteen millions on coaches.
The question is whether it's spent wisely or thrown into the bonfire, a critical difference which UW still struggles to comprehend.
Looks like we’re bringing #faithfamilyfootball , in that order, to Montlake! Might as well add Clay to the staff at this point, lord knows we have positions available
He has #BangBang on his profile which I read as #GangBang. After getting over my initial excitement, I guess I’m ok with this guy.
I think @sonics1993 mentioned his concern that a lot of mwc coaches just schlep all their mwc underlings with them to the next level. Whelp, doogitup.gif for being Fresno State North.
Yup. We are on Day 14 with Kalen, and this guy doesn't even have half his staff put together, had three decommits, no commits, and will most likely have 6-8 players transfer out before the winter Quarter. Great start
Not having a staff in place is a bit concerning but the kids leaving agreed to play for Pete or Jimmy. KD gave them his speech and a bunch want out. Fine. The team just finished 4-8 and rolled over for Wazzu and took it up the ass. That’s enough for me to be fine with guys taking off. They all might be fine players somewhere else but they weren’t going to be that here. Good luck and peace out.
That's fine, but you better be able to recruit to replace those players, and with the staff looking like it will be mostly his Fresno State staff, I have concerns about whether he will be able to do that.
I remember the LPT being very vocal about recruiting concerns when Pete was hired and brought essentially his entire MWC coaching staff with him. Frankly I had the same concerns at the time.
Then they went out and closed and it didn't fucking matter where they came from. Turns out sales is sales. LIFPO.
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DeBooer is Jimmy until he isn't.
Of course if we were really up for overpaying the initial hires at OC and DC shouldn’t we have just done that to get a high level established HC?
Failing to do that then now means that we are in the double digits range of levels of attractiveness for the remaining coaching pool…. In other words, a giant uphill battle that is now not going well. No big surprise in that hiring a bright but mid level coach is a tenuous move at best in the first place, especially for a program with a known dead woman walking as the AD
Is anyone other than the AD truly surprised that the supporting coaching staff is going to wind up being a bunch of up and coming guys from mid America conferences?
As of the coaching change we were ranked right behind WSU in recruiting (78th?) and just for comparison, Fresno was ranked 98th / these guys are going to be our recruiters?
I place this debacle at the feet of the gutless and clueless AD for again demonstrating an obvious failure to understand the dynamics of how to build a successful program
The question is whether it's spent wisely or thrown into the bonfire, a critical difference which UW still struggles to comprehend.
Then they went out and closed and it didn't fucking matter where they came from. Turns out sales is sales. LIFPO.