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When did you know the Huskies were in deep trouble under Lake?
DerekJohnson
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When did you know the Huskies were in deep trouble under Lake? 72 votes
2020 season
41%
30 votes
Montana 1st quarter
9%
7 votes
Montana 2nd quarter
11%
8 votes
Montana 3rd quarter
25%
18 votes
Montana 4th quarter
9%
7 votes
Michigan 1st half
2%
2 votes
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2020 seasonDon't make me dig back and find my arguments with posters here dooging out over the "big dick quarterback" Utah comeback and how Petersen would have never had a comeback win like that (ironically, Utah was also the only team Petersen was able to pull the same feat off against, Wittingham going full retard on both occasions), so Lake was clearly an upgrade over Petersen.
"Chris Petersen doesn't get down 17 points at half to Utah, so that's a stupid comparison" is how I'll paraphrase my response. "Chris Petersen doesn't get down three touchdowns in the first half to homeless Stanford" the following week.
Hell, I was pissed after the OSU game, as they should have lost that, too. I was WAY more concerned with what I saw on the field than everyone's much bigger concerns off of it. Which reminds me: Poll options should be added for the Donovan hire and Kwiatkowski leaving to join Sark. The latter, in particular, pretty much proved the ship was sinking. -
Recruiting collapse.
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As soon as Pete mailed it in and Tits Cohen put Slick Jimmy in charge
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As soon as he didn't shit can Bob within days on the job.
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Honestly, it was some interview he gave after he was first hired. So many of his answers were stuff that Sark would say.
The Donovan hire cemented my misgivings. -
2020 seasonHere are the three things, in order, that let me know this would eventually end in failure (I just didn't think it would be so soon).
1) Hiring Jon Don
2) Recruiting collapse
3) Losing Kwat, then upping the humiliation by replacing him with Gregory
The first two were huge harbingers. but number 3 is when I knew without question that this was a train wreck that was going to happen, the only question was when. Then the when question was answered during the 3rd quarter of the Montana game. -
watching this team line up in the fucking I formation.
watching no NFL teams use a fullback.
'we' want to have an nfl offense! -
Montana 3rd quarter
If it's true that Jimmy was being lazy about recruiting because he was so sure that we would win on the field and make up for it then it's a crime against college football that he gets to coach a conference game.Gladstone said:Recruiting collapse.
He can have this micky mouse ass weekend and then him and Don Jon are gone and Malloe can finish out the year with Adams as OC, and then the fucking Pete Squad is done after a miserable apple cup.
If/When he makes it to conference play and gets his shit pushed in by Cal running Michigan's game plan, I hope that is enough to finally convince the druid President. -
It's been "likely a disaster but we'll LIPO" since the initial struggle finding an OC, at which point I remember posting my favorite gif.
I don't know when it went from "maybe 1% chance this works out" to the current "welp, we fucked"
I'm not sure it matters. We fucked. OC, other head-scratching assistant coach decisions, recruiting shit-show, a general slowly increasing feeling of alarm, shitty Oregon state game, shittier Utah start, shittier Stanford game, bunch of alarming transfers...nothing has been good.
OK, his QB lead one of the 5 great 4th quarter comebacks in Greatest Setting history. But hey, even Pete had (1) 4th quarter comeback, also against Whittingham. And they shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. Just sayin'
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Montana 3rd quarter
Well, I asked when you knew he was in "deep" trouble. I had some misgivings when he was hired. But I saw an upside too.Doog_de_Jour said:Honestly, it was some interview he gave after he was first hired. So many of his answers were stuff that Sark would say.
The Donovan hire cemented my misgivings. -
2020 seasonDonovan hire was it for me. Didn't think it would automatically mean going from 8 wins to 0 under real season circumstances. Thought the death would be prolonged over a few years, but it was inevitable.
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2020 seasonDonovan hire for me as well. I really tried hard to find any glimmer of hope or silver lining with the hire but it was tough to find anything. The only thing I could try to cling to was that he hired Joe Brady and appeared to still have a relationship with him but that was a stretch. From the jump I thought the way Jimmy described what his offense would be sounded fucktarded. "Aggressive, bruising, attack style offense". Who the fuck talks like that?
But even with his terrible hires and shitty recruiting I didn't think the bottom would fall out so quick. Relative to the talent on the roster, this team is on pace to be the most disappointing and underachieving UW team in modern history. -
2020 seasonThe Stanford game did it for me. David Shaw was laughing on the sidelines.
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Montana 3rd quarterMontana looked like they weren’t expecting to win till late in the 3rd quarter when they figured out we? literally didn’t want to win. Jerry Jensens disgusted look as the third quarter legend said it all for me.
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When it was obvious that recruiting was a shit show.
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2020 seasonIt's pretty impressive how quickly everyone went back to hating the program. Frustration followed by apathy for UW athletics is like riding a bike
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The final coffin nail for me was the absolute crap recruiting in 2020 followed by our two most experienced WR's deciding that it was time to move on to other programs for 2021, which told everyone what these guys expected out of the offense for 2021.
When Puka, Calvert and Garbers left, and then Coach K mailed it in ~ like a lot of people, I realized that this was the front wave of everyone of value in the program heading out the door ASAP ~ to be replaced by nobody in the continuation of our wretchedly miserable recruiting.
The collapse of what has happened since has been nothing short of a seismic collapse ~ I have never seen anything like it over such a short timeframe.
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Montana 3rd quarterI was LIPO because I watched other good teams start slow earlier in the day/week only to blow them out in the second half. No adjustments made by the coaches and no life in the team brought it back to reality
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For me it was when they made it on 4th and 1 but was nullified by a timeout. But then when they reran the play they punted instead of running the successful sneak. This was capped shortly after by the douchebag 4th and 5 that they did go for. I realized then that there was no method to the madness.
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Don’t think it was as much Jimmy being lazy about recruiting as much as current players/kids who ended up transferring out communicating with recruits. Recruits text/hang out with current players on the team frequently.haie said:
If it's true that Jimmy was being lazy about recruiting because he was so sure that we would win on the field and make up for it then it's a crime against college football that he gets to coach a conference game.Gladstone said:Recruiting collapse.
He can have this micky mouse ass weekend and then him and Don Jon are gone and Malloe can finish out the year with Adams as OC, and then the fucking Pete Squad is done after a miserable apple cup.
If/When he makes it to conference play and gets his shit pushed in by Cal running Michigan's game plan, I hope that is enough to finally convince the druid President.
Considering the amount of kids who transferred out, I’d say it’s pretty certain that the UW roster (especially those who played under Pete) know that Jimmy is way in over his head. So when the recruits text their friends on the team and say “hey I’m deciding between UW, USC, notre dame, oregon”…those players are being brutally honest. It happened at Oregon under helf and usc under helton. -
Montana 1st quarter
I hate TBS-ers with every ounce of my being and wanted to judge Jimmy on wins and losses.Gladstone said:Recruiting collapse.
Covid/Pac 12 FS robbed us TBS haters of this opportunity to fire Jimmy in 2020. -
2020 season
I still remember him going on Softy's show the day the BG promotion was announced. His explanation reeked of hubris and delusion.Swaye said:Here are the three things, in order, that let me know this would eventually end in failure (I just didn't think it would be so soon).
1) Hiring Jon Don
2) Recruiting collapse
3) Losing Kwat, then upping the humiliation by replacing him with Gregory
The first two were huge harbingers. but number 3 is when I knew without question that this was a train wreck that was going to happen, the only question was when. Then the when question was answered during the 3rd quarter of the Montana game.
"We didn't want to bring someone from the outside who would come in and throw our defense into the garbage. If we wanted the Death Row defense to keep on rolling then the best choice was right here on our staff already" -
Montana 1st quarterRed flags abound in 2020. Falling behind by 21 back to back weeks was very troubling. They came back and won one and were severely hamstrung with Covid suspensions in the other. So I let it pass. Recruiting was bad last year. Can't sugar coat it at all but my doog self told my rational self that Lake needed to prove to recruits that he was a winner, that the offense wasn't archaic, that he could compete on the field with good teams. Do that and the kids would come back around. I told myself that. Then Montana. Knew it right off the bat. I could feel it.
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Spring of 2020, I called out Jimmy and the rest of the coaching staff for being lazy in recruiting, which got me banned for dawgman. The laziness in recruiting was a huge red flag for me. When I knew the program was in trouble is when Coach K left. He had been offered more money in the past and turned it down to stay with the program. He loved Jimmy and gave up play-calling duties so that he would stick around. But when he left and why he left, I realized Jimmy has no clue what he's doing in coaching, and people around him could see that too.
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Montana 3rd quarterall of you voting for 2020 are full of shit. 2020 can't count for anything. Only 4 games in a covid environment. No Levi, Tryon, Tuli, Latu among others. 2020 just can't count. Questionable decisions sure, but trouble? Not yet.
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2020 season
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2020 season
Dude, he was given $850k/yr to go hire an OC and he hired John "assistant to the regional manager" Don. A fireable offense in and of itself.BeerThirty said:all of you voting for 2020 are full of shit. 2020 can't count for anything. Only 4 games in a covid environment. No Levi, Tryon, Tuli, Latu among others. 2020 just can't count. Questionable decisions sure, but trouble? Not yet.
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2020 season
Whatever makes you feel better.BeerThirty said:all of you voting for 2020 are full of shit. 2020 can't count for anything. Only 4 games in a covid environment. No Levi, Tryon, Tuli, Latu among others. 2020 just can't count. Questionable decisions sure, but trouble? Not yet.
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Good coaches are good at everything. I knew UW was in trouble as soon as recruiting went to shit.
I doogishly thought they'd hold it together on the field for a couple of years. I should've known better bases on my own rule.
