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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,777

    when i was at uw a guy got beat to death with a skateboard

    I saw a homeless guy beaten with skateboards by about 10 skatepunks.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795

    Seems to me that UW needs the Ave to be a great destination, and it easily could be. You can clean up any area - see NYC. The Ave could offer its great diversity of food and weird shops and bars (Aladdin's was my favorite also) Invest in some landscaping. Invest in a patrol of cool cops who don't bust for drunkenness but do bust for loitering or graffitti or any kind of intimidation. I may be mistaken, but it feels like campus is now the UVillage? Who the fuck wants to walk back up that hill after getting soaked on beer. You'll never make it back. Can't have the heart of off-campus life be a mall. But the Ave could actually be nice with some investment.

    The other area with potential - tho it's a little further from where people live tho - is all that space down along the water below UWMC and around what used to be the wooden boat center. I've not been back there but for a couple of times at Agua Verde before I left town 20 years ago.

    Lol no UW students hang out at U Village except for the RAM on trivia nights
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,205 Founders Club
    NEsnake12 said:

    Seems to me that UW needs the Ave to be a great destination, and it easily could be. You can clean up any area - see NYC. The Ave could offer its great diversity of food and weird shops and bars (Aladdin's was my favorite also) Invest in some landscaping. Invest in a patrol of cool cops who don't bust for drunkenness but do bust for loitering or graffitti or any kind of intimidation. I may be mistaken, but it feels like campus is now the UVillage? Who the fuck wants to walk back up that hill after getting soaked on beer. You'll never make it back. Can't have the heart of off-campus life be a mall. But the Ave could actually be nice with some investment.

    The other area with potential - tho it's a little further from where people live tho - is all that space down along the water below UWMC and around what used to be the wooden boat center. I've not been back there but for a couple of times at Agua Verde before I left town 20 years ago.

    Lol no UW students hang out at U Village except for the RAM on trivia nights
    Where you been Pod? The Ram sold the couch.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    edited August 2021
    The jack in the box on the ave was the place where I went to by drugs lol
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,654 Founders Club
    Big Time, Shultzy's,
    Sancho said:

    When I was there 2011-2013 besides the Ave rats you'd hear alot about people getting rolled at night in red sqare or on Greek row for what ever they had.
    Seems logical for some less than savory dudes to go get some easy cash from the college kids. It sucks but that's the world we live in.

    North Ave could get rough my last pub crawl ended the night at what was it...pizza ragzzi? Dunno its bok bok now... anyways two guys start getting into it and one pulls a gun as the other one books and he unloads half a clip at his ass . Luckly he's a terrible shot evey begins to scramble.. My buddy is trying to GTFO befoe the cops show up and my drunk ass was like " hold up we gotta wait for the pizza ". Can't buy memories like that i tell ya.

    Rolled in Red Square? Wtf? How?

    Uggh Greek row too? You guys weigh like 140 or something?
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    The Ave was fine in the 80s. Lots of cool places used to be there. It has gone to shit like a lot of Seattle.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005
    Welcome to the State of Washington 2021

    Put the cuffs on the police, give free shit to bums and allow lawlessness to flourish, that’s what every major city in the state is morphing into.

    The Ave just had a head start.
  • Sancho
    Sancho Member Posts: 254
    haie said:

    Big Time, Shultzy's,

    Sancho said:

    When I was there 2011-2013 besides the Ave rats you'd hear alot about people getting rolled at night in red sqare or on Greek row for what ever they had.
    Seems logical for some less than savory dudes to go get some easy cash from the college kids. It sucks but that's the world we live in.

    North Ave could get rough my last pub crawl ended the night at what was it...pizza ragzzi? Dunno its bok bok now... anyways two guys start getting into it and one pulls a gun as the other one books and he unloads half a clip at his ass . Luckly he's a terrible shot evey begins to scramble.. My buddy is trying to GTFO befoe the cops show up and my drunk ass was like " hold up we gotta wait for the pizza ". Can't buy memories like that i tell ya.

    Rolled in Red Square? Wtf? How?

    Uggh Greek row too? You guys weigh like 140 or something?
    Actually the kid I talked too was pretty skinny couldn't of been more than 160. I'm not talking like strong armed but dudes rolling up with guns ans pistol wipping dudes. Don't matter how big you are with a gun in your face. I got the impression the people pulling theses off wernt local they headed to campus late looking for easy pickings.

    Personally old habits die hard and while I grew up in a small town I was old enough to be aware of walking down poorly lit unpopulated spots late
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,198 Founders Club
    One time a girl named Rajvir and I were waiting in the Jack in the Box drive-thru and some guy came up to my window wanting to sell me drugs. I was the last person he should have been asking. I also took a first date to the Wing Dome, and years later when I was writing The Dawgs of War, Derrell Daniels was telling me stories of he and Marques Tui going to Wing Dome all the time. Most of those stories didn't get into the book, nothing earth-shattering but interesting.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,198 Founders Club

    The Ave was fine in the 80s. Lots of cool places used to be there. It has gone to shit like a lot of Seattle.

    I started hanging out there in 1989, just as grunge was beginning to get attention. Even when it was sketchy, it was a good place and era to hang out.
  • StLouisDawg
    StLouisDawg Member Posts: 548

    I would say the 45th intersection is a complete wreck compared to what it used to be.

    But overall, things have gotten very ritzy on the south side of the Ave with very expensive new residence halls, 5 times better than Hagget, McMahon, and whatever those ones by Eastlake bridge were.

    I actually think it was shittier in the early '90s when it was a destination hangout spot for high schoolers looking for exoticism.

    There used to be a place that sold bongs and dildos and band posters when all of those were considered risque.

    Tower records, cellophane square, also the old cellophane square. Magus books.

    If you were a cool or smart person, like me, the ave was great. Also, believe it or not there were always hot sophisticated chicks hanging out certain locales.



    UW and hot chicks is mutually exclusive, unless you have yellow fever like Stalin.

    Sophisticated sure, but Norwegian ugly all day long.

    As for the Ave, does anyone know the actual crimes stats? Have a feeling the Ave is the same and all of us are just old, fat and soft so it looks way more scary.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,693
    Old.....soft....scared...? Can confirm
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,858
    edited August 2021
    Is the Orange King still there?

    I remember going to the Ave when my brother started school in the late 80s. There was a ton of old vinyl shops and places that sold old recording equipment, etc.
    I also remember them filming "Single" and bumping into Kevin Bacon. I have zero degrees with Kevin.

    Our band also recorded at a crappy studio on the Ave. It was fun.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Seattle is just a shit hole in general now. Really no reason to go down there at this point.
  • Edwin_Bambino
    Edwin_Bambino Member Posts: 2,944
    When ever I think of the Ave I think of the Blue Scholars song. But I’m not sure if it has gotten worse, it’s always been bummy. But, considering I live in SF and I compare everything to that… wait that’s a horrible comparison I’m sure it’s gotten way worse, but live a fifteen minute walk from the tenderloin, do that and then pop off!!!
  • no_uh
    no_uh Member Posts: 769
    There's always UVillage which is soulless but typically bumless.
  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,916 Swaye's Wigwam
    80s-90s Ave:

    Off the Wall
    Second Time Around
    Tower Records
    Arnolds
    Space Port

    Always lots of print shops, poster shops.

    Big 5 I don't know if it's there still but old timers tell me it was a Nordstrom at one poont.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    The graffiti in general between I5 and the Ave is simply depressing

    It’s a fucking shit show

    I rarely go down there but last time I drive through the area it was flat out embarrassing
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    edited August 2021
    I saw The Allies perform their famous 80s hit "I'm in love with Emma Peel" at a club on the Ave around 1984. Good times. Can't remember the name of the club but it was below street level, maybe between 43rd and 47th.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul1qjuOSu2g

    I think they either won an MTV basement tape award for that song or got 2nd place.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    I saw The Allies perform their famous 80s hit "I'm in love with Emma Peel" at a club on the Ave around 1984. Good times. Can't remember the name of the club but it was below street level, maybe between 43rd and 47th.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul1qjuOSu2g

    I think they either won an MTV basement tape award for that song or got 2nd place.

    Now thats a name I haven't heard in a long time

    I saw the Allies a few times
  • MontlakeBridgeTroll
    MontlakeBridgeTroll Member Posts: 925
    edited August 2021

    80s-90s Ave:

    Off the Wall
    Second Time Around
    Tower Records
    Arnolds
    Space Port

    Damn Tower Records on the Ave is where I got my first New Order album. That place was great. Also got turned onto Quicksand there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGPzJs1WK88

    Quicksand was never very popular but had a great sound for the 80s.
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,196
    haie said:

    Big Time, Shultzy's,

    Sancho said:

    When I was there 2011-2013 besides the Ave rats you'd hear alot about people getting rolled at night in red sqare or on Greek row for what ever they had.
    Seems logical for some less than savory dudes to go get some easy cash from the college kids. It sucks but that's the world we live in.

    North Ave could get rough my last pub crawl ended the night at what was it...pizza ragzzi? Dunno its bok bok now... anyways two guys start getting into it and one pulls a gun as the other one books and he unloads half a clip at his ass . Luckly he's a terrible shot evey begins to scramble.. My buddy is trying to GTFO befoe the cops show up and my drunk ass was like " hold up we gotta wait for the pizza ". Can't buy memories like that i tell ya.

    Rolled in Red Square? Wtf? How?

    Uggh Greek row too? You guys weigh like 140 or something?
    JFC stop trying so hard.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam

    For members of a degenerate website, a lot of you are true blue suburban squares.

    "Seattle sucks, it's just depressing." You probably think Anthony's Home Port is how all restaurants shoule be.

    Most of you don't know shit about Seattle, I can tell.

    The waterfront, downtown, capitol hill, U-district has always been full of homeless people.

    1980's Seattle was actually scarier than 2021 Seattle. Seattle has become so gentrified it's ridiculous.

    You guys have no basis of comparison. And are mostly lame.

    Your best effort by a mile.