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The Ave
sinceredawg
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Went there last month - I like to visit when I'm in town but it had been a while. WTFH happened? It's grafitti, busted windows, crazy homeless fucks camped on the sidewalk screaming with all their shit spread out... it's embarrassing honestly. If I came on a campus visit I wouldn't choose that for my college setting. UW has never had a strong campus community, but it's gotten repugnant. What the fuck is the University doing? We are so bad at optics.
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Are you new to Seattle?
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I must be. The city I fell in love with only had the same grim chicks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are you new to Seattle?
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I just got my car window smashed at the fucking Interbay driving range.sinceredawg said:
I must be. The city I fell in love with only had the same grim chicks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are you new to Seattle?
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You should leave. I highly recommend it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I just got my car window smashed at the fucking Interbay driving range.sinceredawg said:
I must be. The city I fell in love with only had the same grim chicks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are you new to Seattle?
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Is there still a 7-11 on the Ave??
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The Ave is a total shithole. It’s a joke. It used to by just fine now it’s filth. Way to go Seattle
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It’s Seattle on the whole
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The Ave has always been a shithole. Sounds the same as 20 years ago when I lived at The Malloy.
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I only remember pretty busy places and no empty storefronts with broken windows. Other than that it pretty much sounds like the Ave of the early 90s.
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I was in the U-District 2013-2018. It varied on and off with how dirty and how overrun with the homeless/Ave Rats it got, but it wasn't noticeably worse than any other busy neighborhood in Seattle. Generally though, more empty storefronts = more dirty because of more spots for the homeless to spot up and loiter/camp.
Amazon killing the small retail store market already took out so many businesses on the Ave in the last decade that it created a situation of more storefront supply than demand could fill. There's a limit to how many restaurants can actually be successful and turn a profit on the Ave, so there's insanely high turnover in that genre. I'd say over 50% of the places that were open my freshman year don't exist anymore. Some storefronts changed to different restaurants 3-4 times over the course of my time as a student. It's a brutally competitive scene.
I went back to the Ave a few months ago, and it was pretty evident that COVID plus a whole year of no students on campus completely fucked over the businesses on there. So naturally, with so many dead and empty storefronts, it creates an environment where it's dirtier and more overrun by the riff raff now than ever before. -
I spent a lot of time on The Ave in the 1990s, and it was always sketchy, but it has become a dangerous embarrassment.chuck said:I only remember pretty busy places and no empty storefronts with broken windows. Other than that it pretty much sounds like the Ave of the early 90s.
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sorry to hear thatPostGameOrangeSlices said:
I just got my car window smashed at the fucking Interbay driving range.sinceredawg said:
I must be. The city I fell in love with only had the same grim chicks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are you new to Seattle?
It's always been like this. Im about over it. -
Fuck the golf course break ins. I take everything out of my car when I play and leave my doors unlocked.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
I just got my car window smashed at the fucking Interbay driving range.sinceredawg said:
I must be. The city I fell in love with only had the same grim chicks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are you new to Seattle?
It's always been like this. Im about over it. -
when i was at uw a guy got beat to death with a skateboard
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Sounds like we were there about the same time. That must have been 20ish years ago. Ave rats are nothing new.WilburHooksHands said:when i was at uw a guy got beat to death with a skateboard
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Robberies and assaults on the Ave and Burke Gilman are pretty typical and have been for at least 15 years. Usually once or twice a quarter I’d get a notification. I fondly remember the report about a guy beating a student with a tree branch. Actually sums up my UW fan experience pretty well.
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20 years ago I was a drunk college kid and there was always the sketchy shit around the U District. My friends at UW were all Greek so we usually just stayed on the row or went up to Dutchess after games at HS. As for the ave, you kind of expected to see some shit but you were 20 years old and didn’t give a fuck because you were just trying to party and get laid, but the thieves, beggars and drug dealers(utility!) were there in 2000 just like there are now.
Except there’s just twice as much of that shit and half as many police dealing with it. I stopped heading up to grab lunch at Saigon Deli. It’s just too much of a shit show. Someone’s car is always getting broken into and there’s always a bunch of homeless lunatics falling around on the sidewalks and in the streets. Aqua Verde will do just fine for when I’m down at UWMC. -
Couple of years ago a guy on a Roid Rage knocked out his buddy right there across the street from Bartell Drugs. Dude was out before hitting the pavement
He kept yelling at his knocked out friend….”WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO THAT?”
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Nebraska classy post.DerekJohnson said:
sorry to hear thatPostGameOrangeSlices said:
I just got my car window smashed at the fucking Interbay driving range.sinceredawg said:
I must be. The city I fell in love with only had the same grim chicks.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Are you new to Seattle?
It's always been like this. Im about over it. -
Would we recognize the players?HuskyJW said:Couple of years ago a guy on a Roid Rage knocked out his buddy right there across the street from Bartell Drugs. Dude was out before hitting the pavement
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Sounds like the same old Ave but amplified by empty storefronts and closed restaurants. I haven't been there in eons but it still bums me out. I shouldn't be surprised I guess. The point made above about the death of the small retail store pretty much sums it up.
I enjoyed all that 12 block stroll had to offer, living one year on 42nd and two more on 52nd...lots of good, cheap food, couple of record stores, couple of places to get a beer and even see a live band, and of course an easy place to score a razor thin slice of green bud for $10. I never minded the shenanigans and homeless. -
The only thing that could draw me to visit The Ave would be getting a gyro or shawarma from Aladdin Falafel, if it's still there. I think I ate dinner at that place twice a week for a few years during school.
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I lived on Poco Loco burritos and Kiku Tempura House. There was another, Korean run, burrito joint that served a big, wet burrito that I'd hit up when Poco Loco was busy or I just wanted to sit down. One of the Indian places, Tandor I believe, had a small buffet on weekends for about $5 that we'd frequent too. Nothing like four hungover dudes loaded up with greasy meat, curry, and lentils watching football on a dreary fall sunday.BleachedAnusDawg said:The only thing that could draw me to visit The Ave would be getting a gyro or shawarma from Aladdin Falafel, if it's still there. I think I ate dinner at that place twice a week for a few years during school.
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Is the University Bookstore still brick and mortar or on line?
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Still there.RaceBannon said:Is the University Bookstore still brick and mortar or on line?
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Still there and still good. That and Thai Tom are still the kings of Ave foodBleachedAnusDawg said:The only thing that could draw me to visit The Ave would be getting a gyro or shawarma from Aladdin Falafel, if it's still there. I think I ate dinner at that place twice a week for a few years during school.
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When I was at UW the Ave was a dirt road but in more recent times when I had bidness in the area it seemed like about 2 blocks were seedy as shit. South of 45th was vibrant and cool still
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The Ave is like recruiting, it has its ups and downs. Covid and no kids on campus or nearby apartments probably had a big impact as others have noted. When they made the changes to the street, and when they had the little police base things cleaned up substantially for a while.
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When I was there 2011-2013 besides the Ave rats you'd hear alot about people getting rolled at night in red sqare or on Greek row for what ever they had.
Seems logical for some less than savory dudes to go get some easy cash from the college kids. It sucks but that's the world we live in.
North Ave could get rough my last pub crawl ended the night at what was it...pizza ragzzi? Dunno its bok bok now... anyways two guys start getting into it and one pulls a gun as the other one books and he unloads half a clip at his ass . Luckly he's a terrible shot evey begins to scramble.. My buddy is trying to GTFO befoe the cops show up and my drunk ass was like " hold up we gotta wait for the pizza ". Can't buy memories like that i tell ya. -
Seems to me that UW needs the Ave to be a great destination, and it easily could be. You can clean up any area - see NYC. The Ave could offer its great diversity of food and weird shops and bars (Aladdin's was my favorite also) Invest in some landscaping. Invest in a patrol of cool cops who don't bust for drunkenness but do bust for loitering or graffitti or any kind of intimidation. I may be mistaken, but it feels like campus is now the UVillage? Who the fuck wants to walk back up that hill after getting soaked on beer. You'll never make it back. Can't have the heart of off-campus life be a mall. But the Ave could actually be nice with some investment.
The other area with potential - tho it's a little further from where people live tho - is all that space down along the water below UWMC and around what used to be the wooden boat center. I've not been back there but for a couple of times at Agua Verde before I left town 20 years ago.
