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Which honestly in my opinion disqualifies you acting like you know better than others on the topic of when it is time to fire a coachRaceBannon said:
Most normal but great coaches ebb and flow a bit. That's behind the I would have fired Don James. Builds the program and wins the Rose Bowl in year three. Over the next 7 years two more Rose Bowls and an Orange Bowl and natty, allegedlyRoadDawg55 said:Somewhere along the line, success was considered a sure thing and progress would always be linear.
It’s why I felt the, “It’s year 6” stuff was bullshit. If Pete had the heart, there was no reason he couldn’t reach new heights in future years. Not saying he would, but it was one shitty season. It wasn’t multiple shitty seasons.
85, 86, 87. and 88 especially blew chunks. 89 was disappointing but we could see it and it ended with a bowl win over Florida and the SEC SEC SEC
I don't care. I was done with Petersen and how a fan feels about a coach matters
And I really seriously would have fired James in 88
If the sole metric on firing DJ in 88 was on the record then it was justified ...
But we all know in hindsight that there were things going on within the program that was shifting how they were looking at things ... it paved the way for the best stretch in the history of the program
Not delivering the desired results is one thing ...
Not having a clue as to why you aren't delivering the results and what needs to change for you to succeed is another ...
DJ knew what he needed to do to change, implemented it, and reaped the rewards ...
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In fairness, I'm pretty sure we had this exact conversation at the Duchess in the Fall of 2019YellowSnow said:
Lotta "we knew Pete was burned out" edge lords here.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Anyone voting yes is doing it for message board street cred
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NoNo chance I would have fired him. For all the "he was clearly burned out" crew he still cared enough to pull a top 10 recruiting class in Dec 2019. You can fire a mediocre coach like Sark who just pulled a top 10 class. You don't do it for a quality coach who has taken you to the playoff and is only a year removed from winning the conference.
Maybe the burn out would have evidenced itself in the Dec 2020 class. Even so it still would have almost certainly been better than what we ended up with. -
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I'm stepping way out of my lane here since the 80's were before my time. But I wouldn't have fired James in '88. 85- 88 were frustrating no doubt, but most of those losses we're pretty damn close in a TUFF Pac-10.RaceBannon said:
Most normal but great coaches ebb and flow a bit. That's behind the I would have fired Don James. Builds the program and wins the Rose Bowl in year three. Over the next 7 years two more Rose Bowls and an Orange Bowl and natty, allegedlyRoadDawg55 said:Somewhere along the line, success was considered a sure thing and progress would always be linear.
It’s why I felt the, “It’s year 6” stuff was bullshit. If Pete had the heart, there was no reason he couldn’t reach new heights in future years. Not saying he would, but it was one shitty season. It wasn’t multiple shitty seasons.
85, 86, 87. and 88 especially blew chunks. 89 was disappointing but we could see it and it ended with a bowl win over Florida and the SEC SEC SEC
I don't care. I was done with Petersen and how a fan feels about a coach matters
And I really seriously would have fired James in 88
Again, whether it's Pete or James, IRON law is the replacement is a downgrade. Probably true with Jimmy, but we have to see a full 12 game season and not base it off the sizzle and TBSing shit. -
NoNo, I didn't fire him but I also didn't let him hire a previous grad assistant turned pro coach with no OC experience the year before either... I told then him that this is an important hire that will either help us take the next step, or it will be a move backward which we can not afford... consequently I upped the budget for asst coaches with the qualifier that we get an OC that is a clear upgrade and a proven winner, which in my virtual reality is ultimately who we hired.
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The people have spokenTequilla said:
Which honestly in my opinion disqualifies you acting like you know better than others on the topic of when it is time to fire a coachRaceBannon said:
Most normal but great coaches ebb and flow a bit. That's behind the I would have fired Don James. Builds the program and wins the Rose Bowl in year three. Over the next 7 years two more Rose Bowls and an Orange Bowl and natty, allegedlyRoadDawg55 said:Somewhere along the line, success was considered a sure thing and progress would always be linear.
It’s why I felt the, “It’s year 6” stuff was bullshit. If Pete had the heart, there was no reason he couldn’t reach new heights in future years. Not saying he would, but it was one shitty season. It wasn’t multiple shitty seasons.
85, 86, 87. and 88 especially blew chunks. 89 was disappointing but we could see it and it ended with a bowl win over Florida and the SEC SEC SEC
I don't care. I was done with Petersen and how a fan feels about a coach matters
And I really seriously would have fired James in 88
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Most were on board with Hamden and were excited to be done with Jonathon Smith. Hamden sucked, but the problems with the offense were 99% on Pete.DawgsCanDance said:No, I didn't fire him but I also didn't let him hire a previous grad assistant turned pro coach with no OC experience the year before either... I told then him that this is an important hire that will either help us take the next step, or it will be a move backward which we can not afford... consequently I upped the budget for asst coaches with the qualifier that we get an OC that is a clear upgrade and a proven winner, which is ultimately who we hired.
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NoOne bad season is not a reason to fire someone after 3 straight ny6 appearances.
They were still getting a lot of the talent they prioritized from what I could tell in the off season natty sweepstakes.
Jimmy is treating off season as if he is burned out which is concerning. I still expect a big season with this current roster though I don’t believe like some that it will fix the recruiting problems.
And uw ain’t firing jimmy for years, some of us just like to predict things. -
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He doesn't have that kind of credAtomicDawg said:One bad season is not a reason to fire someone after 3 straight ny6 appearances.
They were still getting a lot of the talent they prioritized from what I could tell in the off season natty sweepstakes.
Jimmy is treating off season as if he is burned out which is concerning. I still expect a big season with this current roster though I don’t believe like some that it will fix the recruiting problems.
And uw ain’t firing jimmy for years, some of us just like to predict things.
And the only good thing about covid is UW will soon be desperate for money 💰
They may have to win for a change
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YesI soured on Pete in his first couple of years, jumped on the bandwagon 3rd and partly in the 4th year. 18 pissed me off on big games and I had had it, so when he said he gave up it more or less correlated to my second angry phase with him.
I am an idiot and will watch the games, over drink and all the bad things, and want a new coach after next year (more than likely) and be disappointed when they rehire Willingham. I
