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PostGameOrangeSlices
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Pretty surly mother fuckers, Jesus.
From the US perspective you cant win without going into the sticks and mountain valleys in some of the remotest backwater places on earth, and basically doing ethnic cleansing because the Taliban basically looks no different from your ordinary Joe Mohammed.
Only other alternative "win" is to keep some troops there, and over time win the ideological battle with the Islamists (no idea if even possible).
I saw a stat that in the big cities and country as a whole, only 20% of people support the Taliban.
Yet they get their ass kicked by 75k dudes with Chinese knock off aks and the Quran.
What a fucking nightmare. If we are going to piss away trillions of dollars there to attempt to pull of a Japan or Germany 2.0 we might as well station a few thousands troops like weve been doing to make sure the Taliban doesnt take the place over in a week.
From the US perspective you cant win without going into the sticks and mountain valleys in some of the remotest backwater places on earth, and basically doing ethnic cleansing because the Taliban basically looks no different from your ordinary Joe Mohammed.
Only other alternative "win" is to keep some troops there, and over time win the ideological battle with the Islamists (no idea if even possible).
I saw a stat that in the big cities and country as a whole, only 20% of people support the Taliban.
Yet they get their ass kicked by 75k dudes with Chinese knock off aks and the Quran.
What a fucking nightmare. If we are going to piss away trillions of dollars there to attempt to pull of a Japan or Germany 2.0 we might as well station a few thousands troops like weve been doing to make sure the Taliban doesnt take the place over in a week.
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Biden's success is unquestionable. Ask the BidenBros!
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Art of the Deal?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51692546
This is a tragedy and Joe is as wrong as Daddy was. -
Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud! -
And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.Sledog said:
Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that.
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They didn't outwit all of us. The outwitted the people who wanted to be duped.HHusky said:
And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.Sledog said:
Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that. -
Only one President offered a hard deadline for a complete pullout.HHusky said:
And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.Sledog said:
Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that. -
Incorrect.Kaepsknee said:
Only one President offered a hard deadline for a complete pullout.HHusky said:
And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.Sledog said:
Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that.
But Joe is as wrong as Daddy on this. -
Yes. Meaning everyone who dealt with them from the US side.SFGbob said:
They didn't outwit all of us. The outwitted the people who wanted to be duped.HHusky said:
And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.Sledog said:
Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that. -
Biden is president
Hope this helps
But Trump! -
Blaming Trump for this is right on brand for the Dazzler.RaceBannon said:Biden is president
Hope this helps
But Trump! -
Last I heard, Joe Biden is the Commander-in-Chief and responsible for the withdrawal of our troops.
Cute of you to bring “Daddy” into the fray and try to shift the blame to him.
Biden is the POTUS and the planning and execution of this clusterfuck is on him.
Trump is no longer the President.
The buck stops with Biden.
This should have been predictable. What are our intelligence agencies and military doing?
They should have had the foresight to anticipate this.
No, I am not happy about this.
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Daddy negotiated the timetable.RaceBannon said:Biden is president
Hope this helps
But Trump!
Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.
Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that. -
Biden fucked it up as usual
Thats your boy. Live with it
Nothing to do with Trump -
Who?RaceBannon said:Biden fucked it up as usual
Thats your boy. Live with it
Nothing to do with Trump -
Complete fucking lie. Biden set the 9/11 deadline for withdrawal, not Trump.HHusky said:
Daddy negotiated the timetable.RaceBannon said:Biden is president
Hope this helps
But Trump!
Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.
Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that. -
Yet they get their asses kicked by 75k dudes with Chinese knock off aks and the QuranPostGameOrangeSlices said:Pretty surly mother fuckers, Jesus.
From the US perspective you cant win without going into the sticks and mountain valleys in some of the remotest backwater places on earth, and basically doing ethnic cleansing because the Taliban basically looks no different from your ordinary Joe Mohammed.
Only other alternative "win" is to keep some troops there, and over time win the ideological battle with the Islamists (no idea if even possible).
I saw a stat that in the big cities and country as a whole, only 20% of people support the Taliban.
Yet they get their ass kicked by 75k dudes with Chinese knock off aks and the Quran.
What a fucking nightmare. If we are going to piss away trillions of dollars there to attempt to pull of a Japan or Germany 2.0 we might as well station a few thousands troops like weve been doing to make sure the Taliban doesnt take the place over in a week.
AND all the military equipment and supplies we left behind.
The Taliban racing through the countryside in Humvees . . . Unforeseeable. -
Negotiated drawdown and followed by withdrawal within 14 months. Daddy did that.SFGbob said:
Complete fucking lie. Biden set the 9/11 deadline for withdrawal, not Trump.HHusky said:
Daddy negotiated the timetable.RaceBannon said:Biden is president
Hope this helps
But Trump!
Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.
Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that.
You must be so happy that the country is being humiliated on Joe's watch. -
Biden set the 9/11 deadline, you fucking lied as always Dazzler. And give me a fucking break, Biden has ripped up and destroyed every other thing Trump had done during his 4 years in office, he could have done something different if he wanted to. Instead of directing the JOC to get all of our equipment out of the country before we left he was busy telling them that the needed to allow open trannies to serve and that they should study "white rage."HHusky said:
Negotiated drawdown and followed by withdrawal within 14 months. Daddy did that.SFGbob said:
Complete fucking lie. Biden set the 9/11 deadline for withdrawal, not Trump.HHusky said:
Daddy negotiated the timetable.RaceBannon said:Biden is president
Hope this helps
But Trump!
Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.
Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that.
You must be so happy that the country is being humiliated on Joe's watch.
Own it Kunt, this is on Biden and the people who voted for him. -
Madam, I've said that repeatedly. Today. Right here on this forum. How could someone who can't take Yes for an answer possibly have been able to procreate?SFGbob said:
Biden has ripped up and destroyed every other thing Trump had done during his 4 years in office, he could have done something different if he wanted to.HHusky said:
Negotiated drawdown and followed by withdrawal within 14 months. Daddy did that.SFGbob said:
Complete fucking lie. Biden set the 9/11 deadline for withdrawal, not Trump.HHusky said:
Daddy negotiated the timetable.RaceBannon said:Biden is president
Hope this helps
But Trump!
Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.
Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that.
You must be so happy that the country is being humiliated on Joe's watch.
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Biden could have done something different, but chose not to . . . I blame Trump.
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Man I've seen some Biden dick sucking but this is next level
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I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
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You don't have to give a shit about them to know that the existence of a refuge for terrorists who hate America isn't in America's interests.Pitchfork51 said:I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
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No wonder Biden doesn't careHHusky said:
You don't have to give a shit about them to know that the existence of a refuge for terrorists who hate America isn't in America's interests.Pitchfork51 said:I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
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Is this where we pretend there's a meaningful difference between Biden and Daddy on Afghanistan?RaceBannon said:
No wonder Biden doesn't careHHusky said:
You don't have to give a shit about them to know that the existence of a refuge for terrorists who hate America isn't in America's interests.Pitchfork51 said:I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
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Is that why you voted for Biden? He's like Trump only worse!!HHusky said:
Is this where we pretend there's a meaningful difference between Biden and Daddy on Afghanistan?RaceBannon said:
No wonder Biden doesn't careHHusky said:
You don't have to give a shit about them to know that the existence of a refuge for terrorists who hate America isn't in America's interests.Pitchfork51 said:I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
Biden fucked this up bad. He's president. Cleanest election ever -
Biden and Daddy are both wrong AF on Afghanistan. And only a liar would pretend there's any difference between them on the subject.RaceBannon said:
Is that why you voted for Biden? He's like Trump only worse!!HHusky said:
Is this where we pretend there's a meaningful difference between Biden and Daddy on Afghanistan?RaceBannon said:
No wonder Biden doesn't careHHusky said:
You don't have to give a shit about them to know that the existence of a refuge for terrorists who hate America isn't in America's interests.Pitchfork51 said:I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
Biden fucked this up bad. He's president. Cleanest election ever -
We knew they were sheltering OBL before 9-11 and did spit. Clinton lawyered up and decided that he couldn't take him out. Bush wouldn't pull the trigger either. Terrorist build some camps, just take them out including anyone in the camps. Just like we did in World War II. Phuck the collateral damage. If the don't their women and kids killed just show the same concern about civilian lives that they do. Don't need any boots on the ground. Oh, and take out the poppy fields if they start acting up.HHusky said:
You don't have to give a shit about them to know that the existence of a refuge for terrorists who hate America isn't in America's interests.Pitchfork51 said:I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
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Yes . . . Biden is Commander in Chief.HHusky said:
Is this where we pretend there's a meaningful difference between Biden and Daddy on Afghanistan?RaceBannon said:
No wonder Biden doesn't careHHusky said:
You don't have to give a shit about them to know that the existence of a refuge for terrorists who hate America isn't in America's interests.Pitchfork51 said:I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
If this had operationally gone decently, you wouldn’t say a peep about Trump. -
Unlike you, I've been worried about this ever since a negotiation with the Taliban was announced and a timetable for withdrawal was floated. I don't think Hillary would have done this. That is just one of the reasons she would have made a better President than Daddy or Joe. You girls would be bitching about us still being in Afghanistan, of course.trublue said:
Yes . . . Biden is Commander in Chief.HHusky said:
Is this where we pretend there's a meaningful difference between Biden and Daddy on Afghanistan?RaceBannon said:
No wonder Biden doesn't careHHusky said:
You don't have to give a shit about them to know that the existence of a refuge for terrorists who hate America isn't in America's interests.Pitchfork51 said:I dont give a single fucking shit about Afghanistan or the Afghanistani people.
If this had operationally gone decently, you wouldn’t say a peep about Trump.
