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The Taliban

PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,566
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Pretty surly mother fuckers, Jesus.

From the US perspective you cant win without going into the sticks and mountain valleys in some of the remotest backwater places on earth, and basically doing ethnic cleansing because the Taliban basically looks no different from your ordinary Joe Mohammed.

Only other alternative "win" is to keep some troops there, and over time win the ideological battle with the Islamists (no idea if even possible).

I saw a stat that in the big cities and country as a whole, only 20% of people support the Taliban.

Yet they get their ass kicked by 75k dudes with Chinese knock off aks and the Quran.

What a fucking nightmare. If we are going to piss away trillions of dollars there to attempt to pull of a Japan or Germany 2.0 we might as well station a few thousands troops like weve been doing to make sure the Taliban doesnt take the place over in a week.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,809
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    edited August 2021
    Art of the Deal?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51692546

    This is a tragedy and Joe is as wrong as Daddy was.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,809
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    Sledog said:



    Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
    And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.

    This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that.

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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:



    Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
    And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.

    This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that.

    They didn't outwit all of us. The outwitted the people who wanted to be duped.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:



    Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
    And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.

    This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that.

    Only one President offered a hard deadline for a complete pullout.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    Kaepsknee said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:



    Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
    And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.

    This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that.

    Only one President offered a hard deadline for a complete pullout.
    Incorrect.

    But Joe is as wrong as Daddy on this.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:



    Joe had a plan! Biden voters, the few, the proud!
    And the Taliban used their deal with Daddy to execute their strategy. They outwitted us. All of us.

    This is a fucking disaster. But at least you're happy about it, so there's that.

    They didn't outwit all of us. The outwitted the people who wanted to be duped.
    Yes. Meaning everyone who dealt with them from the US side.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
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    Biden is president

    Hope this helps

    But Trump!
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Biden is president

    Hope this helps

    But Trump!

    Blaming Trump for this is right on brand for the Dazzler.
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    trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
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    Last I heard, Joe Biden is the Commander-in-Chief and responsible for the withdrawal of our troops.

    Cute of you to bring “Daddy” into the fray and try to shift the blame to him.

    Biden is the POTUS and the planning and execution of this clusterfuck is on him.

    Trump is no longer the President.

    The buck stops with Biden.

    This should have been predictable. What are our intelligence agencies and military doing?

    They should have had the foresight to anticipate this.

    No, I am not happy about this.

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    Biden is president

    Hope this helps

    But Trump!

    Daddy negotiated the timetable.

    Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.

    Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,381
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    Biden fucked it up as usual

    Thats your boy. Live with it

    Nothing to do with Trump
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    Biden fucked it up as usual

    Thats your boy. Live with it

    Nothing to do with Trump

    Who?
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    Biden is president

    Hope this helps

    But Trump!

    Daddy negotiated the timetable.

    Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.

    Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that.
    Complete fucking lie. Biden set the 9/11 deadline for withdrawal, not Trump.
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    trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
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    Pretty surly mother fuckers, Jesus.

    From the US perspective you cant win without going into the sticks and mountain valleys in some of the remotest backwater places on earth, and basically doing ethnic cleansing because the Taliban basically looks no different from your ordinary Joe Mohammed.

    Only other alternative "win" is to keep some troops there, and over time win the ideological battle with the Islamists (no idea if even possible).

    I saw a stat that in the big cities and country as a whole, only 20% of people support the Taliban.

    Yet they get their ass kicked by 75k dudes with Chinese knock off aks and the Quran.

    What a fucking nightmare. If we are going to piss away trillions of dollars there to attempt to pull of a Japan or Germany 2.0 we might as well station a few thousands troops like weve been doing to make sure the Taliban doesnt take the place over in a week.

    Yet they get their asses kicked by 75k dudes with Chinese knock off aks and the Quran

    AND all the military equipment and supplies we left behind.

    The Taliban racing through the countryside in Humvees . . . Unforeseeable.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Biden is president

    Hope this helps

    But Trump!

    Daddy negotiated the timetable.

    Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.

    Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that.
    Complete fucking lie. Biden set the 9/11 deadline for withdrawal, not Trump.
    Negotiated drawdown and followed by withdrawal within 14 months. Daddy did that.

    You must be so happy that the country is being humiliated on Joe's watch.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,175
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    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Biden is president

    Hope this helps

    But Trump!

    Daddy negotiated the timetable.

    Joe would have lots of contractual justifications for saying the deal is dead. Of course, he doesn't want to use them.

    Meanwhile, it was in our national interest not to have the Taliban harboring terrorists in Afghanistan. The passage of time hasn't changed that.
    Complete fucking lie. Biden set the 9/11 deadline for withdrawal, not Trump.
    Negotiated drawdown and followed by withdrawal within 14 months. Daddy did that.

    You must be so happy that the country is being humiliated on Joe's watch.
    Biden has ripped up and destroyed every other thing Trump had done during his 4 years in office, he could have done something different if he wanted to.
    Madam, I've said that repeatedly. Today. Right here on this forum. How could someone who can't take Yes for an answer possibly have been able to procreate?

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    trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
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    Biden could have done something different, but chose not to . . . I blame Trump.
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