Huskies 13th In S&P+ (Wait till you see where the offence ranks)

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In S&P+ I trust!
Seriously, the pieces are all there.
Win or GTFO. -
Thisdnc said:In S&P+ I trust!
Seriously, the pieces are all there.
Win or GTFO. -
Yep. Actual games are on an even playing field. Michigan took most of last year off too and all the Slack 12 are coming off the same aborted year.dnc said:In S&P+ I trust!
Seriously, the pieces are all there.
Win or GTFO.
There is talent. Time to coach em up and win em all. At least until we run into a big kid
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Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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It's not that the math likes UW 2020 offense better than the defense, it's that the offense has 10 starters returning while the defense has 8 I believe.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
All that returning production is why he loves the UW offense this year. We'll see how it performs.
The pieces are there. -
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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Win the Alamo Bowl or GTFO.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Thisdnc said:In S&P+ I trust!
Seriously, the pieces are all there.
Win or GTFO. -
I belive Tuli will be our best DT since Vita. Also we will have 3 down most plays this year which should cover up alot of the frustration with run stop. If our dbs are as good as everyone says then they should be able to cover peopleRoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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What part of minimum expectation do autists not understand?AtomicDawg said:
Win the Alamo Bowl or GTFO.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Thisdnc said:In S&P+ I trust!
Seriously, the pieces are all there.
Win or GTFO.
That is the MINIMUM for this year to give Jimmy a 3rd season.
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JImmy gets 1 full season to prove to us he's the dude. It's that simply.
Tick, tick, tick....
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Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher. -
It’s spelled defense mother fucker. Learn to speak English!Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding -
CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
It’s spelled defense mother fucker. Learn to speak English!Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB. -
Lot of optimism here
Excellent
The fall will hurt that much more -
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB -
Me too by a mile. All my hopes for ILB have already cheated me aside from Heimuli. O thought Tupetala would be an impact guy this year but he has some mystery injury.dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB. -
I'M NOT LETTING YOU OFF THE BANDWAGON!!RaceBannon said:Lot of optimism here
Excellent
The fall will hurt that much more -
Interesting, because that's one of the areas I'm least concerned about. Tuli is a good bet for first team all conference, and Taki is well above average as gap-stuffer. Those two are experienced and good. And then there's a lot of talented depth behind them.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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Calling them good is a stretch. They are servicable so far.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Interesting, because that's one of the areas I'm least concerned about. Tuli is a good bet for first team all conference, and Taki is well above average as gap-stuffer. Those two are experienced and good. And then there's a lot of talented depth behind them.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well) -
I do not need you to criticise me in this theatre. Colour me unimpressed with the lack of honour in your dialogue. I will catalogue this for later and make you're down fall the centre of my endeavours!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
It’s spelled defense mother fucker. Learn to speak English!Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown. -
Fair.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO. -
Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are sayingdnc said:
Fair.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.
Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front -
It wasn't just the DL though, if Sirmon and Turner especially could tackle the defense would have looked a lot better.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are sayingdnc said:
Fair.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.
Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front
Hoping they take steps forward. -
They played 2 down on the line with Tuli being injured last year. Recipe for disaster.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are sayingdnc said:
Fair.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.
Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front
Look for the twins to be well above average and Bandes and Tuitele to contribute a lot more.
Apparently Siaosi Finau was winning 1 on 1s against good O linemen in spring -
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Just to be a contrarian, Taki is JAG. Tuli has flashed. I wasn’t impressed with either Tuitele and Bandes last year. They were R-Fr but they weren’t close to ready to being championship caliber DT’s.chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Tuitele not getting his pec fixed worries me. I didn’t think he was all that high of an upside guy to begin with, despite his ranking. Lake and Gregory have already talked about Peihopa playing this year.