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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,298
    edited August 2021
    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    It's not that the math likes UW 2020 offense better than the defense, it's that the offense has 10 starters returning while the defense has 8 I believe.

    All that returning production is why he loves the UW offense this year. We'll see how it performs.

    The pieces are there.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331

    dnc said:

    In S&P+ I trust!

    Seriously, the pieces are all there.

    Win or GTFO.

    This
    Win the Alamo Bowl or GTFO.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,298

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    I belive Tuli will be our best DT since Vita. Also we will have 3 down most plays this year which should cover up alot of the frustration with run stop. If our dbs are as good as everyone says then they should be able to cover people
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196

    dnc said:

    In S&P+ I trust!

    Seriously, the pieces are all there.

    Win or GTFO.

    This
    Win the Alamo Bowl or GTFO.
    What part of minimum expectation do autists not understand?

    That is the MINIMUM for this year to give Jimmy a 3rd season.

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,677 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited August 2021

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
    Stop it.

    The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.

    Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.

    I feel much better at edge than MLB.
    Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?

    Not exactly proven players...

    Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.

    Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.

    Plus, dline is just more important than LB
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,677 Swaye's Wigwam
    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
    Stop it.

    The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.

    Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.

    I feel much better at edge than MLB.
    Me too by a mile. All my hopes for ILB have already cheated me aside from Heimuli. O thought Tupetala would be an impact guy this year but he has some mystery injury.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Lot of optimism here

    Excellent


    The fall will hurt that much more

    I'M NOT LETTING YOU OFF THE BANDWAGON!!
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Interesting, because that's one of the areas I'm least concerned about. Tuli is a good bet for first team all conference, and Taki is well above average as gap-stuffer. Those two are experienced and good. And then there's a lot of talented depth behind them.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Interesting, because that's one of the areas I'm least concerned about. Tuli is a good bet for first team all conference, and Taki is well above average as gap-stuffer. Those two are experienced and good. And then there's a lot of talented depth behind them.
    Calling them good is a stretch. They are servicable so far.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
    Stop it.

    The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.

    Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.

    I feel much better at edge than MLB.
    Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?

    Not exactly proven players...

    Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.

    Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.

    Plus, dline is just more important than LB
    By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.

    McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.

    I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.

    Martin has talent and experience.

    Then you've still got Lolohea.

    That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.

    Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.

    At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.

    There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.

    Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.

    I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.

    (I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
    Stop it.

    The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.

    Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.

    I feel much better at edge than MLB.
    Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?

    Not exactly proven players...

    Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.

    Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.

    Plus, dline is just more important than LB
    By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.

    McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.

    I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.

    Martin has talent and experience.

    Then you've still got Lolohea.

    That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.

    Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.

    At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.

    There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.

    Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.

    I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.

    (I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
    Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.

    Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.

    Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
    Stop it.

    The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.

    Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.

    I feel much better at edge than MLB.
    Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?

    Not exactly proven players...

    Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.

    Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.

    Plus, dline is just more important than LB
    By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.

    McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.

    I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.

    Martin has talent and experience.

    Then you've still got Lolohea.

    That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.

    Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.

    At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.

    There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.

    Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.

    I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.

    (I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
    Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.

    Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.

    Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
    Fair.

    I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
    Stop it.

    The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.

    Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.

    I feel much better at edge than MLB.
    Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?

    Not exactly proven players...

    Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.

    Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.

    Plus, dline is just more important than LB
    By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.

    McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.

    I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.

    Martin has talent and experience.

    Then you've still got Lolohea.

    That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.

    Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.

    At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.

    There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.

    Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.

    I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.

    (I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
    Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.

    Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.

    Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
    Fair.

    I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
    Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are saying

    Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.

    Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
    Stop it.

    The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.

    Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.

    I feel much better at edge than MLB.
    Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?

    Not exactly proven players...

    Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.

    Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.

    Plus, dline is just more important than LB
    By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.

    McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.

    I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.

    Martin has talent and experience.

    Then you've still got Lolohea.

    That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.

    Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.

    At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.

    There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.

    Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.

    I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.

    (I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
    Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.

    Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.

    Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
    Fair.

    I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
    Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are saying

    Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.

    Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front
    It wasn't just the DL though, if Sirmon and Turner especially could tackle the defense would have looked a lot better.

    Hoping they take steps forward.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,298

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5

    Not kidding
    Stop it.

    The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.

    Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.

    I feel much better at edge than MLB.
    Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?

    Not exactly proven players...

    Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.

    Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.

    Plus, dline is just more important than LB
    By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.

    McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.

    I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.

    Martin has talent and experience.

    Then you've still got Lolohea.

    That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.

    Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.

    At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.

    There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.

    Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.

    I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.

    (I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
    Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.

    Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.

    Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
    Fair.

    I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
    Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are saying

    Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.

    Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front
    They played 2 down on the line with Tuli being injured last year. Recipe for disaster.

    Look for the twins to be well above average and Bandes and Tuitele to contribute a lot more.

    Apparently Siaosi Finau was winning 1 on 1s against good O linemen in spring
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    chuck said:

    Canadawg said:

    Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust

    I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.
    Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.

    Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
    Just to be a contrarian, Taki is JAG. Tuli has flashed. I wasn’t impressed with either Tuitele and Bandes last year. They were R-Fr but they weren’t close to ready to being championship caliber DT’s.

    Tuitele not getting his pec fixed worries me. I didn’t think he was all that high of an upside guy to begin with, despite his ranking. Lake and Gregory have already talked about Peihopa playing this year.