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Huskies 13th In S&P+ (Wait till you see where the offence ranks)
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Calling them good is a stretch. They are servicable so far.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Interesting, because that's one of the areas I'm least concerned about. Tuli is a good bet for first team all conference, and Taki is well above average as gap-stuffer. Those two are experienced and good. And then there's a lot of talented depth behind them.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well) -
I do not need you to criticise me in this theatre. Colour me unimpressed with the lack of honour in your dialogue. I will catalogue this for later and make you're down fall the centre of my endeavours!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
It’s spelled defense mother fucker. Learn to speak English!Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
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Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown. -
Fair.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO. -
Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are sayingdnc said:
Fair.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.
Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front -
It wasn't just the DL though, if Sirmon and Turner especially could tackle the defense would have looked a lot better.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are sayingdnc said:
Fair.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.
Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front
Hoping they take steps forward. -
They played 2 down on the line with Tuli being injured last year. Recipe for disaster.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Which is why our Dline is TBD right now as @RoadDawg55 and I are sayingdnc said:
Fair.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Good points. Bowman is just such a rock for d line. He pressures well and holds the edge.dnc said:
By all accounts Trice killed it in spring and is killing it so far in the fall.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Bowman and ZTF being out leaves out with what, Smalls and McDoogie?dnc said:
Stop it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
If Bowman gets hurt its the difference between 11-2 or so and 8-5chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Not kidding
The only player on this team who might possibly have 3 win value is Ulofoshio just because there is literally nothing behind him.
Losing Bowman would hurt but the edges look shockingly deep even with all the hits they've taken.
I feel much better at edge than MLB.
Not exactly proven players...
Eddie is a stud and Sirmon is 80% of the way to being a stud. He has a ton of promise but just needs to finish the fucking play.
Ive thought all the backup Lbs have looked good too when given a chance. Better than Smalls and friends thus far.
Plus, dline is just more important than LB
McDonald has gotten a lot of love from the coaches.
I'll take Smalls' chances of being good this year over Sirmon's rather easily.
Martin has talent and experience.
Then you've still got Lolohea.
That's at least five guys for two spots if Bowman were out. I am confident a couple of those guys would emerge.
Plus it's probably too early for Himes but he's there also.
At MLB with no Ulo there's Sirmon, Heimuli who I expect big things from this year, Tafisi and Bruener who just got switched back from edge - telling you which position the coach's feel is deepest.
There are no true freshman MLB's who could surprise you and sneak into the rotation. No senior LBs who could make emerge in their last year in the program. It's a massively thin position with an All American starter and a few question marks.
Edge without Bowman beats MLB without Ulo in talent, and depth and is at least a push in snaps.
I'd hate to lose either of them but Ulofoshio is the one indispensable player on this team.
(I'm not even gonna consider the possibility of ZTF returning but that is apparently a thing as well)
Even with Eddie in we still got bullied by Stanford which is what a lot of my analysis is based off of. Bowman makes. Huge difference in the physicality of the front seven. Dude is a forced fumble machine too.
Smalls will get better no doubt and McDonald played a bit. Trice is a total unknown.
I'm one of the fortunate few who didn't actually watch the Stanford debacle. But I did watch all of Utah and Oregon State and didn't see a noticeable difference with him being in versus Oregon State and out versus Utah. We got way too pushed around by both of those offenses IMO.
Taki, Tuli, Bandes, Smalls got their shit pushed in.
Doesnt matter how good the other units are when you get manhandled up front
Look for the twins to be well above average and Bandes and Tuitele to contribute a lot more.
Apparently Siaosi Finau was winning 1 on 1s against good O linemen in spring -
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Just to be a contrarian, Taki is JAG. Tuli has flashed. I wasn’t impressed with either Tuitele and Bandes last year. They were R-Fr but they weren’t close to ready to being championship caliber DT’s.chuck said:
Definitely need improvement, but there's plenty of reason to expect it. Taki is bound to be improved as he's a veteran now. Tuli is healthy, Bandes and Tuitele have experience and time in the conditioning program, and there are some other good looking young guys. This isn't a Sark/Ty/Gilby/Neu DL room. It's actually deep and spread across multiple classes.RoadDawg55 said:
I’m worried about the DT’s. We really need those guys to get better.Canadawg said:Our defence will be better than last year by a mile. Offense obviously did enough good stuff for the math nerds so in DyMo I trust
Also one of the best thing about Bowman is thst he can slide in and put his hand down and be really effective in run D and as an inside rusher.
Tuitele not getting his pec fixed worries me. I didn’t think he was all that high of an upside guy to begin with, despite his ranking. Lake and Gregory have already talked about Peihopa playing this year.
