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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,805 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:


    Get on the boat BidenBros!

    Why not just run a Dunkirk type evac? Certainly there’s shitloads of Florida Cubans with boats.
    Ok we can launch the BidenBros crew 10 miles out of Florida they can paddle over on inner tubes. We'll give them come fresh meet for the trip.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2021
    trublue said:

    I agree with you for the most part. Clinton also was the beneficiary of the dot.com boom that burst after he left office.

    That's true, but he was pushing and championing the internet all through the 90's.

    After his VP invented it, of course.

    But Clinton was a key salesman for the coming "Information Age" that exploded in the dot.com boom in the late 90s, then busted, but made a lot of people a lot of money and rewarded the tech sector with never before seen riches that still carry influence today.
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,230

    thechatch said:

    But but but Cuba has a high literacy rate!

    Lol

    Best Healthcare in the world
    It still blows my mind that people actually believe this shit.

    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/cuba/health-myth.htm
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,791 Founders Club

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Clinton did a lot to sell our country out to China and the world. He was a fraud
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,791 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Bill Clinton was who he thought he had to be at the time he was running for President. Welfare Reform was forced on him by the GOP. You only need to look to how Biden is governing now and where is he was publicly back in the early 90s to realize that neither Biden nor Clinton have any core convictions.
    Unlike Grifter Biden, I think Clinton loved the country and believed in its core principles.

    You can argue Welfare Reform was forced upon him, but it took balls for him to stare down his own party, and he took barge loads of shit for it by the hard left, cradle-to-grave welfare crowd.

    And give credit where its due, Clinton was the last Prez to reduce the deficit and debt.

    You can hate him or his party, but you can't deny him the facts.
    Actually you can thank Reagan and then Newt although Clinton reluctantly signed the budget bills. Who knew that lowering the tax rate and reducing regulations and slowing government spending was good for the private sector economy.
    That's an old anti-Clinton trope, I'm well acquainted with, but those Adam & Eve arguments are pretty myopic and lame. Give credit where it's due. Clinton raised marginal rates a bit to reduce the debt. So did Bush, Sr., and it cost him re-election. Both Bush, Sr., and Clinton were fiscally responsible deficit hawks. If you can't give him that, you're not being fair.
    Looking back on the Bushes and knowing what senior did to try and destroy Reagan who TRULY loved his country, I hate them both and wish a Kennedy-like curse on their entire family.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,280 Standard Supporter
    The Bushies ended up in the trash heap of history. No legacy other than chicom loving forever wars.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,155

    The Bushies ended up in the trash heap of history. No legacy other than chicom loving forever wars.

    And David Souter, don't forget Souter.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2021
    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Clinton did a lot to sell our country out to China and the world. He was a fraud
    Fair argument, but hindsight is always 20-20.

    Clinton pimped the fuck out of Walmart, but what choice does an Arkansas politician have without them and Tyson to bid for? We wouldn't be calling him "Former President Clinton" without their endorsements.

    And Bush Sr. had been pushing for MFN status with China long before Clinton was a blip on the radar. Truthfully, the entire business community was for opening trade with China back then. Clinton mostly rode the wave. He didn't start it.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,280 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Clinton did a lot to sell our country out to China and the world. He was a fraud
    Fair argument, but hindsight is always 20-20.

    Clinton pimped the fuck out of Walmart, but what choice does an Arkansas politician have without them and Tyson to bid for? We wouldn't be calling him "Former President Clinton" without their endorsements.

    And Bush Sr. had been pushing for MFN status with China long before Clinton was a blip on the radar. Truthfully, the entire business community was for opening trade with China back then. Clinton mostly rode the wave. He didn't start it.
    He just took illegal campaign cash from the chicom intelligence agency and sold them military technology.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,155

    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Clinton did a lot to sell our country out to China and the world. He was a fraud
    Fair argument, but hindsight is always 20-20.

    Clinton pimped the fuck out of Walmart, but what choice does an Arkansas politician have without them and Tyson to bid for? We wouldn't be calling him "Former President Clinton" without their endorsements.

    And Bush Sr. had been pushing for MFN status with China long before Clinton was a blip on the radar. Truthfully, the entire business community was for opening trade with China back then. Clinton mostly rode the wave. He didn't start it.
    He just took illegal campaign cash from the chicom intelligence agency and sold them military technology.
    Yeah but he was very charismatic when he did so.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042

    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Clinton did a lot to sell our country out to China and the world. He was a fraud
    Fair argument, but hindsight is always 20-20.

    Clinton pimped the fuck out of Walmart, but what choice does an Arkansas politician have without them and Tyson to bid for? We wouldn't be calling him "Former President Clinton" without their endorsements.

    And Bush Sr. had been pushing for MFN status with China long before Clinton was a blip on the radar. Truthfully, the entire business community was for opening trade with China back then. Clinton mostly rode the wave. He didn't start it.
    Clinton can thank Ross Perot and CBS News (60 Minutes) for his election in 1992.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Clinton did a lot to sell our country out to China and the world. He was a fraud
    Fair argument, but hindsight is always 20-20.

    Clinton pimped the fuck out of Walmart, but what choice does an Arkansas politician have without them and Tyson to bid for? We wouldn't be calling him "Former President Clinton" without their endorsements.

    And Bush Sr. had been pushing for MFN status with China long before Clinton was a blip on the radar. Truthfully, the entire business community was for opening trade with China back then. Clinton mostly rode the wave. He didn't start it.
    He just took illegal campaign cash from the chicom intelligence agency and sold them military technology.
    And we had Russian soldiers training at JBLM in the 90's and 00's. What President hasn't blessed the sale of tech and military goods to China since the 1960s?
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,280 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Clinton did a lot to sell our country out to China and the world. He was a fraud
    Fair argument, but hindsight is always 20-20.

    Clinton pimped the fuck out of Walmart, but what choice does an Arkansas politician have without them and Tyson to bid for? We wouldn't be calling him "Former President Clinton" without their endorsements.

    And Bush Sr. had been pushing for MFN status with China long before Clinton was a blip on the radar. Truthfully, the entire business community was for opening trade with China back then. Clinton mostly rode the wave. He didn't start it.
    He just took illegal campaign cash from the chicom intelligence agency and sold them military technology.
    And we had Russian soldiers training at JBLM in the 90's and 00's. What President hasn't blessed the sale of tech and military goods to China since the 1960s?
    Trump was by far the toughest. He realized the problem. Leftards and Cho Bai Den are playing for the away team.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Bubba turned out to be the best Republican President since Reagan. Trump would have taken that title if not cut at the knees at every turn and the unfortunate Pandemic.

    The not so funny thing is that tens of millions of people in this country think that the Pandemic was his fault.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    SFGbob said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I voted for Obama twice, hoping he'd restore some Meritocracy lost during the Bush years.

    He didn't. He doubled down on all of it, filling the ranks with shitty, socially retarded spooks who think life is a game of Risk.

    Pathetic.

    How could you have ever trusted dRats? They've been LSoS Marxists for decades.
    Bill Clinton was a good Prez, like him or not. Lefties hated him because he was a "Businessman's Democrat," or a DINO, in many ways. And I didn't give a shit that he got high in college or got a blowie in the Oval. He got welfare reform and the '94 Crime Bill pushed through, both of which were good things at the time and mostly still are.
    Bill Clinton was who he thought he had to be at the time he was running for President. Welfare Reform was forced on him by the GOP. You only need to look to how Biden is governing now and where is he was publicly back in the early 90s to realize that neither Biden nor Clinton have any core convictions.
    Unlike Grifter Biden, I think Clinton loved the country and believed in its core principles.

    You can argue Welfare Reform was forced upon him, but it took balls for him to stare down his own party, and he took barge loads of shit for it by the hard left, cradle-to-grave welfare crowd.

    And give credit where its due, Clinton was the last Prez to reduce the deficit and debt.

    You can hate him or his party, but you can't deny him the facts.
    Clinton was a Satan worshipping paedophile employed by the Rothschilds and Rockefellers who engaged in human sacrifice rituals.
    Drank!!!!
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,296 Founders Club

    Great thread. Had no idea @UW_Doog_Bot was big and green. Poor Dazzler.


  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,768 Swaye's Wigwam

    Holy. Fuck.

    This is the best thread in the history of the Tug.

    I haven't seen a reaming of this caliber. Ever.

    You had @TheKobeStopper with his typical feeble "gotcha" attempts initially. He saw where this was heading, despite his communist peabrain, and abandoned ship in a hurry.

    @Rubberfist tried to fight the good fight but was clearly in over his head. Perhaps he rethought a few of his beliefs as he read on.

    And then...

    @HHusky appears. The legendary Dazzler himself. Initially his wannabe smartest devils advocate in the room schtick is typical. Talking in circles, changing the subject, the usual. And then, he actually starts trying to debate.

    I dont think Ive ever seen an annihilation like the one @UW_Doog_Bot performed. This was legendary.

    I wish it couldve continued for a bit longer before the Clinton hawt talk took over, but all good things must come to an end.

    I'm pretty sure I can make a better argument for communism/marxism/whatever than these fucking clowns.

    We didn't even get to talk about the labor theory of value.



    Fucking lightweights.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,012 Swaye's Wigwam

    Holy. Fuck.

    This is the best thread in the history of the Tug.

    I haven't seen a reaming of this caliber. Ever.

    You had @TheKobeStopper with his typical feeble "gotcha" attempts initially. He saw where this was heading, despite his communist peabrain, and abandoned ship in a hurry.

    @Rubberfist tried to fight the good fight but was clearly in over his head. Perhaps he rethought a few of his beliefs as he read on.

    And then...

    @HHusky appears. The legendary Dazzler himself. Initially his wannabe smartest devils advocate in the room schtick is typical. Talking in circles, changing the subject, the usual. And then, he actually starts trying to debate.

    I dont think Ive ever seen an annihilation like the one @UW_Doog_Bot performed. This was legendary.

    I wish it couldve continued for a bit longer before the Clinton hawt talk took over, but all good things must come to an end.

    I'm pretty sure I can make a better argument for communism/marxism/whatever than these fucking clowns.

    We didn't even get to talk about the labor theory of value.



    Fucking lightweights.

    Reality tempted to give your post a fuck off.

    What's wrong with my Lacroix?
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